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Default TN: SOBER does 60s Bojo, 70s CA & Rhones, +Loire, Burg, etc

On Jan 27, 11:36�am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> On 1/27/10 9:03 AM, DaleW wrote:
>
> > Wine #1 a bright �white, with lemon fruit, a strong anise note, lots
> > of minerals. �I said Chablis, Craig said correct but keep it quiet
> > while other end guesses. John says Raveneau, completely trumping my
> > guess! �Nice wine, though there is a little lactic note on the finish
> > that some feel is precursor for PremOx. Drinking well now, why wait?
> > 2004 Raveneau "Vaillons" Chablis. B+

>
> > Wine #2 - really nice, bigger, tensile acidity, crisp apple fruit, a
> > toasty note I thought was light oak. My guess was Cote d'Or
> > (Puligny?) and boy was I wrong. 1999 Luneau-Papin "L d'Or" Muscadet.
> > A-

>
> What an interesting lineup of wines, Dale. �Did Craig find those old
> Bojos on the secondary market or did he purchase them way back when?
> And I am not terribly surprised about your reaction to the '99 L d'Or.
> You may recall my comments expressed awhile ago that good Muscadet
> scratches much the same itch as Chablis for me.
>
> > Wine #1 - Good, ripe, strong fruit with solid acids, herbs, cocoa.
> > Lovely long wine, Mark and John I think both quickly said old CA,
> > really nice wine. 1976 Phelps Insignia. A-

>
> > Wine #2- sweet, ripe, nice wine without the density or complexity of
> > its flightmate, but still a nice wine. 1977 Phelps Eisele Cabernet
> > Sauvignon. B/B+

>
> I'm not surprised that you liked these so much. �I have great memories
> of some of those mid-'70s Phelps Cabs, and I'm still cellaring a few
> Insignias from '94 and '98 in hopes that they may eventually develop
> along similar lines.
>
> So, what were your WOTNs, Dale? �The L d'Or and the Clos des Lambrays?
> And what were the group's WOTNs?
>
> Thanks for the notes,
> Mark Lipton
>
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I agree with your comment regarding the Phelps. I recently had a
couple Insignia's from the 70's that were excellent. They seem to
produce great wines every year regardless of conditions. What was the
deal on the premox with the Raveneau?