"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> Paul M. Cook said...
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>> "Andy" > wrote in message
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>>> The Ranger said...
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>>>> Paul M. Cook > wrote in message
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>>>>> [..] I've seen ghosts - twice. Enough to scare the fertilizer out of
>>>>> you. It is a very unsettling experience to say the least.
>>>>
>>>> Until you experience something, you're a non-believer.
>>>>
>>>> The "BTDT" Ranger
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd suggest until two or more people see the same ghost at the same
>>> time, it's a hallucination. That hasn't happened in recorded history.
>>
>> The hell it hasn't. I know a guy who was driving down PCH in Malibu
>> with a buddy and while stopped at a red light a ghostly figure with no
>> legs passed right in front of the car and then evaporated. Two people
>> seeing the exact thing at the exact time. Each saw the same thing; a
>> hippie looking guy who looked like he was trying to say something to
>> them.
>
> "I know a guy who"... hardly sounds credible. Like "a friend of a friend
> of
> a friend said he saw a ghost..."

Well you gardly sound credible most of the time yourself.

>
>>
>> When I had my second ghost encounter my GF at the time also saw the
>> exact same thing; three gray faces with gray hair and gray eyes looking
>> into our window. She even saw the hairy stubble on one of their faces
>> just like I did.
>
> Manny, Moe and Jack? ;-)
>
> What was your first encounter? In your first paragraph you weren't a
> witness to it.

First encounter was when I was 8 years old. The face of an older man in a
suit and tie appeared one night in a bedroom window. It appeared backlit.
The windows was on the second floor with way of getting to it other than a
ladder. And there was no ladder. A few months later a visitor reported
seeing the same figure in the kitchen. Except there was no way they could
have gotten in there as there was only one way in and it was gone when we
investigated. She wasn't scared though because she said it looked like a
older person just standing by the sink and looking at her. She assumed it
was somebody else visiting.

> Out of curiosity, how long did your encounter last? Where they gone in the
> blink of an eye or did they hang out for any decent length of time?

About a minute maybe less. What happened in both my cases was I was so
scared I turned away and when I looked back the apparitions were still
there. Turned away a second time and them when I looked back they had gone.

> Getting back to the TV show aspect of ghosts, it's laughable that they
> tend
> to be made in the dark or at night. What, no ghosts at lunch time? And the
> ghost psychics, what a perfect stretch of the imagination. It's just TOO
> staged to be believable. They're amateurish at best. The programs aren't
> making money hand over fist either. A real ghost, caught on real movie
> film
> (not digital), would be worth a fortune! An extraterrestrial would be even
> more substantial. [sigh]

The shows are faked. Ghost Hunters is just made up. If it's on TV it
probably is faked. I love the ghost gadgets they use, like the temperature
sensors and the electrical field stuff. Where can I buy those? The local
ghost hunter outfitter store?

Paul