Will wrote:
> On Jul 18, 4:48 pm, Ted Goldblatt > wrote:
>> I am in the process of finishing up design of a major (as in gut to the
>> walls, and take down one of those) kitchen redo. Right now I am trying
>> to settle on appliances. Money is definitely an object, so I was
>> targeting higher-end mass market (Kitchenaid/Bosch level) for most
>> things, a bit higher for the rangetop.
[Snip specific questions about KA/Bosch/Dacor ovens, etc.]

> If you can get a good price on a Jade Range cooktop... that would be
> the way to go.

Was not familiar with Jade - looked them up. As best I can tell, they
would be priced in the Wolf ballpark (or so), which makes it unlikely.
Nearest dealer is about 300 miles away, making it very unlikely. And
they are apparently a spin-off of Whirlpool that is running in early
start-up mode (limited dealer network, no real support network in place,
etc.) which would make them a "no" even if the other 2 problems could be
resolved...

> Also... if you can rework it so that you're using a range (ovens under
> cooktop) you save $$$. Add the cooktop + two built in ovens + cabinet
> work and prove it to yourself. There are less installation issues,
> space efficiencies, and the exhaust system will also service the
> ovens.

Well, the design (cooktop plus 2 single ovens) is already decided. I
currently have 2 (consumer grade) 30" electric ranges and would like to
keep 2 (full sized) ovens and at least 6 burners (preferably with the
burners high output gas). However, my budget doesn't run to a high-end
pro-style range, especially one with those characteristics, nor do I
really want to devote 5 feet of counter width to the cooktop if I can
get away with only 3 feet. Therefore (given I want these
characteristics) I actually come out ahead on $$$ over 1 large or 2 30"
pro style ranges, the cabinets aren't really an issue since they are all
new anyway, the installation work isn't mine to do, and I actually gain
space efficiencies this way (assuming I really want the 2 ovens). Also,
while the exhaust issues are real, the planned layout will (hopefully
:-)) provide decent results given the hood vs oven placement.

> I know you said ovens are secondary but... Jade ovens are over-the-
> top: infra-red broilers, serious convection capabilities.

I didn't really say ovens are are secondary so much as indicate that I
think I can get the results I want from units at the high end of mass
market (or a little above), while I am less convinced that would be true
for the cooktop. The ovens I named appear to have serious (true)
convection capabilities (perhaps not at the level of a esoteric
pro-style oven, but still), and I'm not certain how often I would
require broiling beyond their capabilities...

ted