In article > ,
Saerah Gray > wrote:

> Omelet > fnord
> news >
> > In article > ,
> > T > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >> > In article 7>,
> >> > Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > In other words...... your claim that most welfare recipients
> >> > > > are actually single white males is absolutely false.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://www.apa.org/pi/wpo/myths.html
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Whatever... Maybe it's time we imposed penalties on adult
> >> > > welfare recipients and limited the number of children a welfare
> >> > > recipient could have to 1, also limiting the benefits they could
> >> > > receive. What you can't afford to have, you shouldn't have.
> >> > > It's no wonder there are so many children on the welfare rolls.
> >> > > One of the things that irritates me most is
> >> > > seeing an indigent family or single mother marching into the
> >> > > welfare office
> >> > > with 8 kids in tow, because most of these people are unemployed
> >> > > by choice or lack of even the most rudimentary skills, and have
> >> > > no desire to work. With our present system they know they don't
> >> > > have to, yet they keep popping
> >> > > out kids like it ws a hobby, and they know they'll receive
> >> > > additional benefits for each child they have.
> >> > >
> >> > > There are some who are making every effort to pull themselves up
> >> > > by their bootstraps and to work or actively seek employment.
> >> > > Unfortunately, they seem to be in the vast minority.
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Wayne Boatwright
> >> >
> >> > The welfare system rewards sloth, and fecundity.
> >> >
> >> > It needs a serious overhaul.
> >> >
> >>
> >> So tell me since you're the expert, what reforms would you make to
> >> the welfare system?
> >
> > Government work programs. I already stated that.
> >
> > Give them the welfare they need, but make them work for it.
> > It really is that simple...
> >
> > I believe in helping people, just not in giving them a totally free
> > ride. I work hard for the money I make.
>
> So will the government pay for child care under your program, too?

_Home_ work is my idea.
That way they can stay home with the kids.

>
> An overhaul of the system is needed, certainly. What kind of jobs are we
> going to give these people so that they can get off welfare and make a
> living that is enough to support their family?
>
> Except for the three months I took off for maternity leave, and the few
> months when I was unemployed a few years ago,(and it's not that I
> "wouldn't" work; there were retail and fast-food jobs available, but
> most of the places I applied at could not give me a set schedule, which
> I needed because I could not afford childcare), I have worked full-time
> my entire adult life. Until I was able to get my current job, I had
> never made enough money where I could have supported myself and my
> daughter on my paycheck alone. Does that make me lazy?

Of course not. :-) You are not the kind of person I had an issue with.
There are some people that don't _want_ to get off of welfare and some
are generational.

I'm not against helping people in need! How many times do I have to say
that? I have a problem with deliberate freeloaders! There are those
that even feel that welfare recipients should be drug screened...

>
> It's more complicated than "have them work for the money". Basically,
> you would have these people work for *less* than minimum wage. And
> that's not a solution.

Did I ever mention an amount? Is welfare less than minimum wage?
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