On Apr 17, 2:56*am, (Dick Adams) wrote:
> > wrote:
> > OK here's an idea. *use a large latex balloon,
> > and put it over the mouth of the bottle. *using
> > the crevice tool of the vacuum suck the air out,
1)Slip the tool under the lip of the balloon. The tool does not have
to 'enter' the opening of the bottle. Think of it more like sucking
the air out of the bag /balloon, rather than sucking the air out of
the bottle.

2) Argon is better because CO2 can carbonate your wine. Which is fine
if you like that sort of thing, or plan to degass later.

3)CO2 and Oxygen readily mix, so you will likely still have O2 in the
bottle. To do what you are suggesting with the CO2 purge, you have to
push the CO2 in slowly and you need to monitor the expelled air for
O2. To do that, as the expelled air comes out, huide it out through a
tube into an upside down glass or container. In the container, burn a
candle. When the candle extinguishes due to lack of O2, you may have
a low enough concentration of O2 in the bottle. Alternatively, you
could put a canary in the bottle. But you will soon run our of
canaries if you have a lot of bottles.

4)As for the other question about the trashbag.When I put the trashbag
over my 55gal primary, I first put to layers of plastic wrap on the
surface of the wine. Also, the bag is not touching the surface anyhow
because of the argon blanket.




> I'm missing something here. *How do you insert
> the crevice tool if the balloon is covering the
> mouth of the bottle.
>
> Why is argon better the CO2?
>
> Why not give the carboy a shot of CO2 inserting
> an the air stop you use for oxygen through the
> shaft of the airlock. *Any oxygen should escape
> up the shaft. *Afterwards you just insert the
> airlock cup and put the top on the airlock.
>
> Dick