"Ray" > wrote in message ...
> "Ipse dixit" > wrote in message ...
> > "Ray" > wrote in message ...
> > > "Ipse dixit" > wrote in message ...
> >
> > > > > > yeah yeah yeah.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Obviously Jon is another one to add to your 'Hypocrite List':-)
> > > > >
> > > > Everyone is a potential candidate, Ray, but unlike you,
> > > > Jon's support for animals and his reasons for participating
> > > > here have never been in doubt. I bit his head off because
> > > > he stupidly took the emphasis away from a huge milestone
> > > > I spent a lot of time developing: getting Etter to make a
> > > > statement which would prove the CD argument has a
> > > > double standard.
> > > >
> > > > He should have picked another thread to post his views
> > > > on the ways to reduce the farmers CDs, or make another
> > > > one of his own rather than divert my attack on Rick away
> > > > with a bunch of crap on the issue which I already knew
> > > > about. That's why I asked, "Don't you get what's going on
> > > > here anymore, or something, Jon? What's the matter with
> > > > you?" He sometimes misses some of the more subtle
> > > > going's-on which are particular and unique to a.a.e.v. and
> > > > t.p.a.
> > > >-----------No snippage-----------
> > > >
> > > Derek,
> > > I hope you consider the following as constructive, it is
> > > meant that way.
> > >
> > > [Everyone is a potential candidate] A candidate for what
> > > Derek? Someone who does not share your views 100%
> > > and therefore has to be branded a hypocrite?
> > >
> > No, a candidate to be added to my list of who I
> > regard as hypocrites. There are many here who
> > I disagree with that aren't on that list. For example;
> >
> > "Murdering Mercer holds the principle that 1 rabbit
> > should die if it saves 1000 human lives, and this is
> > exactly the same principle held by Zakhar. The huge
> > difference between Zakhar and Mercer, is that
> > Mercer has put his principles into practice and
> > spent his entire life studying real damn hard to
> > perfect a way to do it as painlessly as possible,
> > using the least amount of animals. I don't agree
> > with Zakhar or Mercer's principles, but at least
> > Mercer has the guts to stand by his and argue his
> > position somewhat openly. I can cope with that,
> > but what annoys me more than anything is a
> > coward who would willingly allow animals to
> > die according to his own acceptable ratio while
> > criticising others who do it professionally,
> > especially if they're also claiming to be an ARA,
> > because it makes the rest of us who don't accept
> > any ratio at all equally hypocritical if we defend
> > his double standard as you do."
> > Derek 2003-10-08
> >
> > > In recent weeks you have tried to go through us
> > > all like a dose of salts,
> >
> > So what? Unlike you, I'm free to take issue with
> > whoever I like, whatever their label. Deal with it.
>
> Right, I'll make a good start - **** you and all your
> stupid attempts to gain promininence on this Newsgroup.
> You have failed and you are a complete and utter disaster
> zone for AR posters.
>
Was that little outburst supposed to be "a good start" in
dealing with me?

> Deal with that council house cleric.
>
> You ****ing mercer bumboy.

It's Zakhar and yourself that supports Mercer's ethic
on using animals for research. Not me