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I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power for say a week. The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon enough? Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all steak parties. Thanks, Steve |
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> Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all >steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve Damn Steve, where are you? I'm in North Carolina and worrying just the same. My only safety blanket is both my neighbors have a generater andt only takes an hour or two per day to keep it. Good Luck Craig |
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> Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all >steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve Damn Steve, where are you? I'm in North Carolina and worrying just the same. My only safety blanket is both my neighbors have a generater andt only takes an hour or two per day to keep it. Good Luck Craig |
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During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for
both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. Dwayne "Steve" > wrote in message om... > Hi, > > I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... > > Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power for > say a week. > > The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. > I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they > thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook > them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon > enough? > > Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all > steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve |
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During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for
both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. Dwayne "Steve" > wrote in message om... > Hi, > > I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... > > Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power for > say a week. > > The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. > I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they > thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook > them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon > enough? > > Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all > steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve |
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During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for
both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. Dwayne "Steve" > wrote in message om... > Hi, > > I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... > > Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power for > say a week. > > The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. > I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they > thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook > them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon > enough? > > Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all > steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve |
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In article >,
(Steve) wrote: > Hi, > > I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... > > Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power > for say a week. > > The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. > I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. > Once they thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? > Can I then cook them, put them back on ice and refreeze if > the power comes back soon enough? > > Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all > steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve I'll get the beads out and go twice around for you, Craig, and my friend Bonnie that you'll not be destroyed. Ugh. http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/tips/summer/power_outages.html http://www.extension.umn.edu/info-u/...ion/BJ656.html http://www.extension.umn.edu/info-u/...ion/BJ659.html And I grabbed this from http://www.extension.umn.edu/newslet...3-2001FSNL.htm C. When the Home Freezer Stops Have you checked your home freezer lately? When many home freezers are located in low-traffic areas, it is important to check it frequently to make sure it is running. This reduces the chances of discarding thawed and spoiled food. Here are some tips to care for frozen food when the freezer stops functioning. If you suspect the power will be off, set the freezer temperature control to 10 degrees to *20 degrees F. immediately. The colder the freezer, the longer the food will stay frozen. When a power outage occurs, keep the freezer closed as much as possible. A full freezer will stay cold about two to four days. A half-full freezer will stay cold about 24 hours. Cover the freezer with heavy blankets for added insulation. If you know the power will be off for a long period of time, use dry ice to help keep food frozen. For a full 20 cubic foot freezer, 50 pounds of dry ice will keep food frozen three to four days. For a half full 10 cubic freezer, 25 pounds of dry ice will keep food frozen two or three days. Be careful when handling dry ice. Use heavy gloves and place the dry ice on cardboard on top of the food in the freezer. If dry ice is not available, try to move the food to a locker plant. What if the food thaws? Here are some tips to check the food for safety and if it can be refrozen. Meat and poultry: If the food is 40 degrees F. or below and if color and odor are good, it can be refrozen. Discard if off-odor or off-color are present. If the meat is thawed but still cold, cook it and consume or freeze. Vegetables: If ice crystals are present, or it the food temperature is 40 degrees F or below, refreeze. Fruits: If there are no signs of spoilage, refreeze. Thawed fruits, previously frozen with sugar, survive with minimal damage to quality. They can be used in cooking and in making jams and jellies. Fish and Shellfish: If ice crystals are present, or if the food temperature is 40 degrees or below, refreeze. If the fish or shellfish is completely thawed or questionable, discard. * Cooked foods (i.e. casseroles): If ice crystals are present, or if the food temperature is 40 degrees F or below, refreeze. If still cold, these foods can be cooked and used immediately. Ice Cream: If partially thawed, discard. The texture becomes unacceptable. Breads and baked good, nuts, flour, cereal: These are safe to refreeze. Be sure to inspect for contamination from meat drippings. If present, discard. Always re-label and date refrozen food. Clean the freezer before refilling. Refreeze food as quickly as possible. Set the temperature control to the coldest setting. Place the warmer packages against the freezer walls. Add aluminum foil spacers between packages to increase cold temperature transfer. If necessary, call a local locker plant to help in refreezing food. Use refrozen food as soon as possible. * Source: So Easy to Preserve, 4th Edition, When the Home Freezer Stops, http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/foodsafety/...r/Food0201.pdf -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> An update on 7/22/04. |
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In article >,
(Steve) wrote: > Hi, > > I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... > > Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power > for say a week. > > The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. > I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. > Once they thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? > Can I then cook them, put them back on ice and refreeze if > the power comes back soon enough? > > Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all > steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve I'll get the beads out and go twice around for you, Craig, and my friend Bonnie that you'll not be destroyed. Ugh. http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/tips/summer/power_outages.html http://www.extension.umn.edu/info-u/...ion/BJ656.html http://www.extension.umn.edu/info-u/...ion/BJ659.html And I grabbed this from http://www.extension.umn.edu/newslet...3-2001FSNL.htm C. When the Home Freezer Stops Have you checked your home freezer lately? When many home freezers are located in low-traffic areas, it is important to check it frequently to make sure it is running. This reduces the chances of discarding thawed and spoiled food. Here are some tips to care for frozen food when the freezer stops functioning. If you suspect the power will be off, set the freezer temperature control to 10 degrees to *20 degrees F. immediately. The colder the freezer, the longer the food will stay frozen. When a power outage occurs, keep the freezer closed as much as possible. A full freezer will stay cold about two to four days. A half-full freezer will stay cold about 24 hours. Cover the freezer with heavy blankets for added insulation. If you know the power will be off for a long period of time, use dry ice to help keep food frozen. For a full 20 cubic foot freezer, 50 pounds of dry ice will keep food frozen three to four days. For a half full 10 cubic freezer, 25 pounds of dry ice will keep food frozen two or three days. Be careful when handling dry ice. Use heavy gloves and place the dry ice on cardboard on top of the food in the freezer. If dry ice is not available, try to move the food to a locker plant. What if the food thaws? Here are some tips to check the food for safety and if it can be refrozen. Meat and poultry: If the food is 40 degrees F. or below and if color and odor are good, it can be refrozen. Discard if off-odor or off-color are present. If the meat is thawed but still cold, cook it and consume or freeze. Vegetables: If ice crystals are present, or it the food temperature is 40 degrees F or below, refreeze. Fruits: If there are no signs of spoilage, refreeze. Thawed fruits, previously frozen with sugar, survive with minimal damage to quality. They can be used in cooking and in making jams and jellies. Fish and Shellfish: If ice crystals are present, or if the food temperature is 40 degrees or below, refreeze. If the fish or shellfish is completely thawed or questionable, discard. * Cooked foods (i.e. casseroles): If ice crystals are present, or if the food temperature is 40 degrees F or below, refreeze. If still cold, these foods can be cooked and used immediately. Ice Cream: If partially thawed, discard. The texture becomes unacceptable. Breads and baked good, nuts, flour, cereal: These are safe to refreeze. Be sure to inspect for contamination from meat drippings. If present, discard. Always re-label and date refrozen food. Clean the freezer before refilling. Refreeze food as quickly as possible. Set the temperature control to the coldest setting. Place the warmer packages against the freezer walls. Add aluminum foil spacers between packages to increase cold temperature transfer. If necessary, call a local locker plant to help in refreezing food. Use refrozen food as soon as possible. * Source: So Easy to Preserve, 4th Edition, When the Home Freezer Stops, http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/foodsafety/...r/Food0201.pdf -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> An update on 7/22/04. |
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Been there, done that. Only way to handle the meat after it thaws is to
cook it, eat it, or refreeze it after cooking. I wouldn't wait too terribly long after it thaws either. Alternatively, if you can get some dry ice you can probably hold it frozen longer in a well sealed ice chest. Others have already suggested a small generator but I wouldn't wait until the hurricane hits to buy one, they tend to sell out quick then. We saved a 15 cubic foot freezer full of meat during the ice storm of January 1997 by hooking up to a generator. Could probably have put it on a table in the carport as it was only 24F outside for a couple of days. Unfortunately it took seven days to get power back. Good luck to all of you in the paths of Bonnie and Charles. George, living in hurricane alley on the LA Gulf Coast. Steve wrote: > Hi, > > I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... > > Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power for > say a week. > > The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. > I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they > thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook > them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon > enough? > > Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all > steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve |
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Been there, done that. Only way to handle the meat after it thaws is to
cook it, eat it, or refreeze it after cooking. I wouldn't wait too terribly long after it thaws either. Alternatively, if you can get some dry ice you can probably hold it frozen longer in a well sealed ice chest. Others have already suggested a small generator but I wouldn't wait until the hurricane hits to buy one, they tend to sell out quick then. We saved a 15 cubic foot freezer full of meat during the ice storm of January 1997 by hooking up to a generator. Could probably have put it on a table in the carport as it was only 24F outside for a couple of days. Unfortunately it took seven days to get power back. Good luck to all of you in the paths of Bonnie and Charles. George, living in hurricane alley on the LA Gulf Coast. Steve wrote: > Hi, > > I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... > > Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power for > say a week. > > The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. > I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they > thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook > them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon > enough? > > Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all > steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:48:15 GMT, "Dwayne" > wrote:
>During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for >both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. Ok, answer this Southerner a question: If it's an ice storm, couldn't you just move the frozen stuff outside as long as the temperatures stay below freezing? Penelope |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:48:15 GMT, "Dwayne" > wrote:
>During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for >both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. Ok, answer this Southerner a question: If it's an ice storm, couldn't you just move the frozen stuff outside as long as the temperatures stay below freezing? Penelope |
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Penelope Periwinkle wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:48:15 GMT, "Dwayne" > wrote: > > >>During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for >>both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. > > > Ok, answer this Southerner a question: If it's an ice storm, couldn't > you just move the frozen stuff outside as long as the temperatures > stay below freezing? > > > Penelope Yes, if you can keep the racoons and cats out of it, and assuming it's cold enough outside. A lot of ice storms happen at about 30 degrees, then it may warm up a little. I've bought frozen turkeys on sale after Christmas and carried them around in the back of my truck in a cardboard box for a couple of months while I made room in the freezers. Bob |
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"Steve" > wrote in message om... > Hi, > > I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... > > Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power for > say a week. > > The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. > I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they > thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook > them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon > enough? > > Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all > steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve They sell ice chests now that will keep ice for a full 5 days in 90 degree weather. I'd invest in a couple of those. I've seen them at Wal-Mart. A woman on one of the email lists I belong to said they took one camping. She said she put a bag of ice in the bottom of the cooler and when they got back from the camping trip she took that bag of ice out and put it in the freezer. Kathy |
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"Steve" > wrote in message om... > Hi, > > I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... > > Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power for > say a week. > > The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. > I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they > thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook > them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon > enough? > > Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all > steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve They sell ice chests now that will keep ice for a full 5 days in 90 degree weather. I'd invest in a couple of those. I've seen them at Wal-Mart. A woman on one of the email lists I belong to said they took one camping. She said she put a bag of ice in the bottom of the cooler and when they got back from the camping trip she took that bag of ice out and put it in the freezer. Kathy |
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"Penelope Periwinkle" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:48:15 GMT, "Dwayne" > wrote: > > >During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for > >both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. > > Ok, answer this Southerner a question: If it's an ice storm, couldn't > you just move the frozen stuff outside as long as the temperatures > stay below freezing? Native Tarheel here at your service. Foe ice storms that would work but usually with ice storms the weather gets warm fairly quickly. Hurricanes are what really knocks out the power for a long time. When Hugo came through in September '89 we lost power for two WEEKS. Did have one great block party with all the defrosting food though. |
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"Penelope Periwinkle" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:48:15 GMT, "Dwayne" > wrote: > > >During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for > >both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. > > Ok, answer this Southerner a question: If it's an ice storm, couldn't > you just move the frozen stuff outside as long as the temperatures > stay below freezing? Native Tarheel here at your service. Foe ice storms that would work but usually with ice storms the weather gets warm fairly quickly. Hurricanes are what really knocks out the power for a long time. When Hugo came through in September '89 we lost power for two WEEKS. Did have one great block party with all the defrosting food though. |
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"Penelope Periwinkle" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:48:15 GMT, "Dwayne" > wrote: > > >During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for > >both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. > > Ok, answer this Southerner a question: If it's an ice storm, couldn't > you just move the frozen stuff outside as long as the temperatures > stay below freezing? Native Tarheel here at your service. Foe ice storms that would work but usually with ice storms the weather gets warm fairly quickly. Hurricanes are what really knocks out the power for a long time. When Hugo came through in September '89 we lost power for two WEEKS. Did have one great block party with all the defrosting food though. |
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Penelope Periwinkle > wrote in message >. ..
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:48:15 GMT, "Dwayne" > wrote: > > >During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for > >both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. > > Ok, answer this Southerner a question: If it's an ice storm, couldn't > you just move the frozen stuff outside as long as the temperatures > stay below freezing? > > > Penelope and that's a really good question! However, the temp didn't stay below freezing - it just hovered there. + 1C one minute, -1C the next. So we had rain one minute and freezing rain the next. We did end up moving all our freezer stuff out to the porch (it's screened in - no coons to worry about in the 'winter'), but it just kept stuff cold. It was never cold enough to keep stuff frozen. Milk, butter, etc (frige stuff) did fine at that temp. The stuff from the freezer eventually thawed (3 days?) and we had to cook it, and eat it. Eventually we got a genny but at that point it was too late to save anything but the flooding basement.... Kathi |
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Penelope Periwinkle > wrote in message >. ..
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:48:15 GMT, "Dwayne" > wrote: > > >During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for > >both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. > > Ok, answer this Southerner a question: If it's an ice storm, couldn't > you just move the frozen stuff outside as long as the temperatures > stay below freezing? > > > Penelope and that's a really good question! However, the temp didn't stay below freezing - it just hovered there. + 1C one minute, -1C the next. So we had rain one minute and freezing rain the next. We did end up moving all our freezer stuff out to the porch (it's screened in - no coons to worry about in the 'winter'), but it just kept stuff cold. It was never cold enough to keep stuff frozen. Milk, butter, etc (frige stuff) did fine at that temp. The stuff from the freezer eventually thawed (3 days?) and we had to cook it, and eat it. Eventually we got a genny but at that point it was too late to save anything but the flooding basement.... Kathi |
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Penelope Periwinkle > wrote in message >. ..
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:48:15 GMT, "Dwayne" > wrote: > > >During the ice storm of 2000 in Arkansas, we used our camper generator for > >both the freezer and frig. We picked it up at Sams. > > Ok, answer this Southerner a question: If it's an ice storm, couldn't > you just move the frozen stuff outside as long as the temperatures > stay below freezing? > > > Penelope and that's a really good question! However, the temp didn't stay below freezing - it just hovered there. + 1C one minute, -1C the next. So we had rain one minute and freezing rain the next. We did end up moving all our freezer stuff out to the porch (it's screened in - no coons to worry about in the 'winter'), but it just kept stuff cold. It was never cold enough to keep stuff frozen. Milk, butter, etc (frige stuff) did fine at that temp. The stuff from the freezer eventually thawed (3 days?) and we had to cook it, and eat it. Eventually we got a genny but at that point it was too late to save anything but the flooding basement.... Kathi |
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Gary S. wrote:
> > Another option not mentioned is dry ice. > FYI/FWIW be careful w/ dry ice as the vapor can kill inside a closed home, make sure windows are open for fresh air to come in. -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-831-5739 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced  |
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Gary S. wrote:
> > Another option not mentioned is dry ice. > FYI/FWIW be careful w/ dry ice as the vapor can kill inside a closed home, make sure windows are open for fresh air to come in. -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-831-5739 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced |
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Gary S. wrote:
> > Another option not mentioned is dry ice. > FYI/FWIW be careful w/ dry ice as the vapor can kill inside a closed home, make sure windows are open for fresh air to come in. -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-831-5739 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced |
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Steve wrote:
> Hi, > > I hope it takes a turn and we're not hit... > > Any advice on salvaging whats in the freezer with no power for > say a week. > > The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. > I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they > thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook > them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon > enough? > > Maybe it will be time to have the steak party to end all > steak parties. > > Thanks, > Steve Steve, is there any way you could get some dry ice? If so, that should keep your steaks frozen. |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 03:02:13 -0400, KenCo > wrote:
>Gary S. wrote: >> >> Another option not mentioned is dry ice. >> >FYI/FWIW >be careful w/ dry ice as the vapor can kill >inside a closed home, make sure windows are >open for fresh air to come in. Good point. Our use was at a cabin without complete sealing, and the cooler I mentioned was out in the woodshed. We used gas lights and a fireplace, and ventilation was not an issue. Usually, though, carbon DIoxide, the vapor from dry ice, in high concentrations causes people to react, unlike carbon MONoxide, which is indetectible by human senses. Best to be careful and vent well, and not depend on people's reactions. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 03:02:13 -0400, KenCo > wrote:
>Gary S. wrote: >> >> Another option not mentioned is dry ice. >> >FYI/FWIW >be careful w/ dry ice as the vapor can kill >inside a closed home, make sure windows are >open for fresh air to come in. Good point. Our use was at a cabin without complete sealing, and the cooler I mentioned was out in the woodshed. We used gas lights and a fireplace, and ventilation was not an issue. Usually, though, carbon DIoxide, the vapor from dry ice, in high concentrations causes people to react, unlike carbon MONoxide, which is indetectible by human senses. Best to be careful and vent well, and not depend on people's reactions. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:54:30 -0500, TomK
> wrote: >On 11 Aug 2004 23:02:05 -0700, (Steve) wrote: > >> The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. >>I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they >>thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook >>them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon >>enough? >> >This is a bit late for this one, but maybe it will help with the next . . >. >I have a chest-style freezer. I've got the bottom lined with 2.5 gallon >(rectangular) water bottles, and a sheet of plywood that fits the freezer. >In the event of an extended outage, I re-pack and put the water bottles on >top -- use the plywood if I need to do some leveling. > Thermal mass is always helpful. But you need to plan ahead, and tolerate the loss of space. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
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Melting Freezer -how to cope with a Hurricane
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:42:09 GMT, Gary S. <Idontwantspam@net> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:54:30 -0500, TomK > wrote: > >>On 11 Aug 2004 23:02:05 -0700, (Steve) wrote: >> >>> The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. >>>I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they >>>thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook >>>them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon >>>enough? >>> >>This is a bit late for this one, but maybe it will help with the next . . >>. >>I have a chest-style freezer. I've got the bottom lined with 2.5 gallon >>(rectangular) water bottles, and a sheet of plywood that fits the freezer. >>In the event of an extended outage, I re-pack and put the water bottles on >>top -- use the plywood if I need to do some leveling. >> >Thermal mass is always helpful. But you need to plan ahead, and >tolerate the loss of space. > Well, there's only one of me, and the difference in cost between a 7 CF and an 11 CF chest was only about 45 bucks, and I'd already experienced *one* five day outage. . . So I've got about 5 cubic feet of frozen water in the thing. Tom |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:42:09 GMT, Gary S. <Idontwantspam@net> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:54:30 -0500, TomK > wrote: > >>On 11 Aug 2004 23:02:05 -0700, (Steve) wrote: >> >>> The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. >>>I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they >>>thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook >>>them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon >>>enough? >>> >>This is a bit late for this one, but maybe it will help with the next . . >>. >>I have a chest-style freezer. I've got the bottom lined with 2.5 gallon >>(rectangular) water bottles, and a sheet of plywood that fits the freezer. >>In the event of an extended outage, I re-pack and put the water bottles on >>top -- use the plywood if I need to do some leveling. >> >Thermal mass is always helpful. But you need to plan ahead, and >tolerate the loss of space. > Well, there's only one of me, and the difference in cost between a 7 CF and an 11 CF chest was only about 45 bucks, and I'd already experienced *one* five day outage. . . So I've got about 5 cubic feet of frozen water in the thing. Tom |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:42:09 GMT, Gary S. <Idontwantspam@net> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:54:30 -0500, TomK > wrote: > >>On 11 Aug 2004 23:02:05 -0700, (Steve) wrote: >> >>> The power has been off for a few and the freezer is melting. >>>I've got several steaks and 4 london broils in the freezer. Once they >>>thaw, if I keep them on ice how long can they last? Can I then cook >>>them, put them back on ice and refreeze if the power comes back soon >>>enough? >>> >>This is a bit late for this one, but maybe it will help with the next . . >>. >>I have a chest-style freezer. I've got the bottom lined with 2.5 gallon >>(rectangular) water bottles, and a sheet of plywood that fits the freezer. >>In the event of an extended outage, I re-pack and put the water bottles on >>top -- use the plywood if I need to do some leveling. >> >Thermal mass is always helpful. But you need to plan ahead, and >tolerate the loss of space. > Well, there's only one of me, and the difference in cost between a 7 CF and an 11 CF chest was only about 45 bucks, and I'd already experienced *one* five day outage. . . So I've got about 5 cubic feet of frozen water in the thing. Tom |
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