This is driving me mad, and I think this may be the only thing I *haven't*
been able to find on all the Internet, mostly because I have absolutely no
idea how to spell it, but it's a type of pasta (or perhaps the name for the
dish you make with the pasta) that phonetically sounds like "gahv-ah-deal."
I recall each being about the size of a typical gnocchi.

Whether it starts with a "c" or "g" or even something else, I don't know,
this the problem.

Thanks

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
news:NZ7hb.525402$Oz4.391093@rwcrnsc54...
This is driving me mad, and I think this may be the only thing I *haven't*
been able to find on all the Internet, mostly because I have absolutely no
idea how to spell it, but it's a type of pasta (or perhaps the name for
the
dish you make with the pasta) that phonetically sounds like
"gahv-ah-deal."
I recall each being about the size of a typical gnocchi.

Whether it starts with a "c" or "g" or even something else, I don't know,
this the problem.

Thanks

Conchiglie? Sea shell pasta?

--
Catbird

"Oh-oh, her schizo is about to phrenia" - Bob Hope

Milhouse Van Houten expressed frustration:

This is driving me mad, and I think this may be the only thing I *haven't*
been able to find on all the Internet, mostly because I have absolutely no
idea how to spell it, but it's a type of pasta (or perhaps the name for
the dish you make with the pasta) that phonetically sounds like
"gahv-ah-deal."
I recall each being about the size of a typical gnocchi.

Whether it starts with a "c" or "g" or even something else, I don't know,
this the problem.

Probably cavatelli.

Bob

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:19:09 GMT, "Milhouse Van Houten"
wrote:

This is driving me mad, and I think this may be the only thing I *haven't*
been able to find on all the Internet, mostly because I have absolutely no
idea how to spell it, but it's a type of pasta (or perhaps the name for the
dish you make with the pasta) that phonetically sounds like "gahv-ah-deal."
I recall each being about the size of a typical gnocchi.

Lemme guess, you heard about it from someone of Sicilian decent? My
husband's Nana pronounces things like that all the time, and when we find
out how they're really spelled we're like "Wha?" She's pure Sicilian,
and I've heard (don't know) that Sicilian's pronounciations of things are
different than a lotta Italian.

--
Siobhan Perricone
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public." -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1918

You have a choice: www.deanforamerica.com
Feel free to contact me about him, he was my governor and "boss" for 10 years.

"If the percent of minorities in your state has anything to do with how you
can connect with African American voters, then Trent Lott would be Martin
Luther King, Jr." - Howard Dean

Yep-what you're looking for is a type of pasta,cavatelli. Us Sicilians, just
pronounce things funny.

Thanks everyone. I've checked out some photos of cavatelli, and that must be
it. I did hear it originally from quite an old immigrant, though I'm not
sure what part she's from, and she really didn't even have an accent left
for most words.

This reminds me of the "rih-goat" word used frequently on The Sopranos,
which apparently is "ricotta." Never would have figured that one out
either.

BTW, I meant "both" and not "booth" in the subject line, but that's what you
get when you're up way too late.

Siobhan Perricone wrote:

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:19:09 GMT, "Milhouse Van Houten"

This is driving me mad, and I think this may be the only thing I *haven't*
been able to find on all the Internet, mostly because I have absolutely no
idea how to spell it, but it's a type of pasta (or perhaps the name for the
dish you make with the pasta) that phonetically sounds like "gahv-ah-deal."

Lemme guess, you heard about it from someone of Sicilian decent? My
husband's Nana pronounces things like that all the time, and when we find
out how they're really spelled we're like "Wha?" She's pure Sicilian,
and I've heard (don't know) that Sicilian's pronounciations of things are
different than a lotta Italian.

That's a riot, yeah, there were lots of Sicilians where I grew up,
and you could never look up what they were talking about using the
pronunciation. Gabbagole, pizza don, sauzeech, on and on. RiGaught.
Mootzadell.

Amuses me to hear Martha Stewart pronounce those words in her
precise diction.

nancy

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message news:NZ7hb.525402$Oz4.391093@rwcrnsc54...
This is driving me mad, and I think this may be the only thing I *haven't*
been able to find on all the Internet, mostly because I have absolutely no
idea how to spell it, but it's a type of pasta (or perhaps the name for the
dish you make with the pasta) that phonetically sounds like "gahv-ah-deal."
I recall each being about the size of a typical gnocchi.

Whether it starts with a "c" or "g" or even something else, I don't know,
this the problem.

Thanks



Why dont you ask Luigi, Italian restaurant owner or his assistant Salvadore.

Milhouse Van Houten wrote:

This is driving me mad, and I think this may be the only thing I *haven't*
been able to find on all the Internet, mostly because I have absolutely no
idea how to spell it, but it's a type of pasta (or perhaps the name for the
dish you make with the pasta) that phonetically sounds like "gahv-ah-deal."
I recall each being about the size of a typical gnocchi.

Whether it starts with a "c" or "g" or even something else, I don't know,
this the problem.

Thanks



Try looking under "cavatelli". IME many Italian foods
aren't pronounced anywhere near the way they're spelled.
(For example, many oldtimers in New Haven, CT. pronounce
pizza "uh-BEETZ" and the store signs spell it apizz' .)

gloria p

"Puester" wrote in message
...
Milhouse Van Houten wrote:

This is driving me mad, and I think this may be the only thing I
*haven't*
been able to find on all the Internet, mostly because I have absolutely
no
idea how to spell it, but it's a type of pasta (or perhaps the name for
the
dish you make with the pasta) that phonetically sounds like
"gahv-ah-deal."
I recall each being about the size of a typical gnocchi.

Whether it starts with a "c" or "g" or even something else, I don't
know,
this the problem.

Thanks



Try looking under "cavatelli". IME many Italian foods
aren't pronounced anywhere near the way they're spelled.
(For example, many oldtimers in New Haven, CT. pronounce
pizza "uh-BEETZ" and the store signs spell it apizz' .)

gloria p

That makes me think of pig-Latin, with the end vowel moved to the front. It
also reminds me of the tendancy for immigrants from Japan to switch the
pronunciacion of R's and L's. It's hard for me to understand, but I was
raised under totally different linguistic circumstances.

-Adam

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:07:45 GMT, Puester wrote:

Try looking under "cavatelli". IME many Italian foods
aren't pronounced anywhere near the way they're spelled.

Though that's mostly dialects, like how differently people from the north
and south pronounce some things in English. Technically Italian is mostly
pronounced how it's spelled with a few letter sounds being different
between Italian and English, but the Sicilians, to my understanding, speak
it very differently, which is why the pronounciations are so very
different.

--
Siobhan Perricone
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public." -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1918

You have a choice: www.deanforamerica.com
Feel free to contact me about him, he was my governor and "boss" for 10 years.

"If the percent of minorities in your state has anything to do with how you
can connect with African American voters, then Trent Lott would be Martin
Luther King, Jr." - Howard Dean

For future reference, here's way more kinds of pasta than
you ever wanted to know existed (and way, way, way fewer
than actually exist):

http://www.professionalpasta.it/dir_1/go_1(1).htm
http://www.pasta.it/forme.htm

--Blair
"It's the play-doh fun factory all
growed up and gone totally nuts."

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:28:10 -0400, Siobhan Perricone
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:07:45 GMT, Puester wrote:

Try looking under "cavatelli". IME many Italian foods
aren't pronounced anywhere near the way they're spelled.

Though that's mostly dialects, like how differently people from the north
and south pronounce some things in English. Technically Italian is mostly
pronounced how it's spelled with a few letter sounds being different
between Italian and English, but the Sicilians, to my understanding, speak
it very differently, which is why the pronounciations are so very
different.

--
Siobhan Perricone
snipped sig

Oh ya, those dialects are *very* different. I dated a Calabrese with a
Sicilian BIL (my family is from Naples) and it was like learning a new
language. It took me two years of Sunday dinners to finally figure it
out, course, then we broke up and 'm back to barely understanding it
again. :-)
readah

Adam Schwartz wrote:
"Puester" wrote in message
...
Try looking under "cavatelli". IME many Italian foods
aren't pronounced anywhere near the way they're spelled.
(For example, many oldtimers in New Haven, CT. pronounce
pizza "uh-BEETZ" and the store signs spell it apizz' .)

That makes me think of pig-Latin, with the end vowel moved to the front. It
also reminds me of the tendancy for immigrants from Japan to switch the
pronunciacion of R's and L's. It's hard for me to understand, but I was
raised under totally different linguistic circumstances.

Suffering through Gordon Elliot is finally good for something
besides alternating pangs of hunger and vicarious embarassment.

He went "around the world" looking at Pizza, and blew up a few
myths.

Myth: Pizza is an American invention.
Facts: Pizza with tomato sauce, cheese, and toppings has
been made in Naples for possibly hundreds of years, with
at least one location having made the authentic article
for at least the last 170 years; it may be thousands of
years old, and the crust is based on Arabian flatbreads.
The Pizza Margherita is not the original pizza, just
a version that got itself a name in a way that makes a
nice story. America didn't get into Pizza as a popular
cuisine until 1905, when a baker's assistant in NYC made
use of the bakery oven downtime in the afternoons to cook
and sell pizzas.

Myths: Various etymologies for the word, "pizza".
Fact: "Pizza" comes from the word (which I forget but iirc
sounded like "ap****ia") which refers to the blackening
and crisping of the crust on the bottom of the dough.

Myth: Real pizza dough is twirled in the air to stretch it.
Fact: "They're using bread dough," said the maker of what
the show asserted is the best pizza in America. Real pizza
dough is too delicate to take spinning and must be stretched
and pressed thin by hand on a flat surface.

Coincidentally apropos of all the Carbonara going on around
here and apparently coincidental to looking for the best
places on Earth to get a pizza, Gordon visited two chefs
on nearly opposite sides of the planet (Aspen and Sydney)
who served him their "new" recipes for bacon-and-fried-egg
pizza. I suspect he got caught in a fad being propagated
by some high-end pizza journal.

--Blair
"Take it with a grain of Gordon Elliot."

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 06:59:22 -0400, Siobhan Perricone
wrote:

Lemme guess, you heard about it from someone of Sicilian decent? My
husband's Nana pronounces things like that all the time, and when we find
out how they're really spelled we're like "Wha?" She's pure Sicilian,
and I've heard (don't know) that Sicilian's pronounciations of things are
different than a lotta Italian.

Sounds similar to our Southern accent. When they want
something to write with, they ask for a "pin".