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Hi, group.
I may be facing a relocation.
I am interviewing for a new job opportunity,
some in the USA, where I currently live,
and one in Ontario, near Toronto.
If I move to Canada -- which my American wife and children are not sure
about yet :-)
can my homemade wine move with me?
Does anyone have any knowledge or info on that?
Thanks.
Rick

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"winogeneral" > wrote in message
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> Hi, group.
> I may be facing a relocation.
> I am interviewing for a new job opportunity,
> some in the USA, where I currently live,
> and one in Ontario, near Toronto.
> If I move to Canada -- which my American wife and children are not sure
> about yet :-)
> can my homemade wine move with me?
> Does anyone have any knowledge or info on that?
> Thanks.
> Rick


Rick, I presume you are an American? In that case you can move your wine
cellar into Canada for a small duty (I can't remember the actual cost but
when we did it I brought in ~400 bottles of commercial wine for less than
$100 CDN). I don't think it will be any different with your homemade wine.
Tim
PS- I would bottle it all first.


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winogeneral > wrote:

> Actually, I am a Canadian - with resident alien status
> here in the usa b/c of my wife's citizenship! I don't
> know if that would make a difference.


Well you'll be a returning expat with a gringo spouse (oops
that's for Mexico). If you are bringing children with you,
you'll be ok because there is no tax on half-breeds As
for your wine: bottle it and label it. Call Canadian customs
and ask them if there is a tax on bringing homebrewed wine
home with you. There is a duty free limit and my experience
bringing five times the duty free limit into the US and into
England is Customs Agents don't want to be bothered with the
paperwork unless there's at least $500 in taxes due.

My attitude is to declare everything and make it their problem.

Dick
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> My attitude is to declare everything and make it their problem.


That is the safe play, I do think there will be duty since the base
product was made in the US; Canadian Customs has a website where you
can pose the specific question. The duty would be on the actual cost,
not value since you are not allowed to sell it. It would be pretty
small. I declare homemade wine when i cross and they wave it through
but the quantities i bring and you would be talking about don't
compare...

Joe

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The following is from about.com. The figures suppose that the
individual is taking the wine from Washington State to British
Columbia. The amount of taxes, duties, and fees varies wildly from
province to province but are staggering - the lowest is Alberta at 97%,
the highest is one of the territories at - are you ready? - 325%.

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Wine
Every adult may bring 1.5 litres of wine (2 bottles at 750ml each) into
Canada without paying any extra charges. Beyond this amount there are
various taxes and fees that add up to a 122% surcharge. In this example
a person is bringing in three bottles of wine valued at $US10 each. The
first two are duty free.

Additional bottle of wine is $US10
$US10 X 1.22 = $CAD12.20 (taxable amount)
$CAD12.20 X 122% = $CAD14.88

The person bringing in the wine will need to pay the $CAD14.88 to bring
$US30 worth of wine into Canada. The maximum volume of wine you can
bring into Canada without an importer's license, including the duty
free volume, is 42.6L (45US quarts / 11.25US gallons).

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I should also add that Canada Customs is far, far stricter with respect
to charging duties than US customs. They can and will take the time to
charge you for something worth $30. I have the feeling they would take
the time for one penny.

wd41



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"winogeneral" > wrote in message
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> Actually, I am a Canadian - with resident alien status here in the usa
> b/c of my wife's citizenship! I don't know if that would make a
> difference. Thanks for your reply.
>
> Rick


Hi Rick,

If your wife is an American then she can bring in her wine cellar. I am
sure about this regarding commercial wine, so I am assuming the same would
be for your homemade wine. As another poster pointed out, the difference
between you versus your American wife bringing in wine (when moving to
Canada) is staggering. So, if I recall correctly, this is your wife's wine
isn't it?

Tim
(PS- Just to be clear, the above pertains to commercial wine that you bring
into Canada, I am only assuming the same would be true for home bottled.
Also, this is your only chance to bring your cellar across so your wife may
want to stock up before you move. Lastly, we checked with customs numerous
times about this (and other things) before moving, so I would suggest you do
the same. It made the process seamless.)


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or you can just mail all of yuor great wine to me,i will not tax you at
all my wine brother.

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