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heartburn from wine
Hello,
I am getting together with a bunch of friends on the 12th - one is coming from New York and we have not seen each other in awhile. Anyway, I'm bringing some of my homemade wine, so I asked her what she might like to try...? Just heard back, for the past two years, she has found that she gets kind-of like a heartburn from any type of wine (red or white), so she doesn't drink much wine anymore. Her allergist thinks its a type of allergy sensitivity.... Has anyone ever heard of this? Since she probably has tried grape wines, I'm wondering if my fruit and veggie wines will be different...? Any ideas. Thanks. Darlene |
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You could try and find out if she has some Nexium or Prilosec. Two or three
days of either of these medications relieve any hearburn I have and wine bothers me some times if I'm not taking the drugs. In my case either seem superior to the other OTC acid blockers available. No way to tell if non grape wines will bother her without trying them. My guess is it's the alcohol. BTW Darlene, I tried to email you to ask if you make blackberry wine. Bounced. My question, what is the acid content of your blackberry wine if you make it. Bill Frazier Olathe, Kansas USA "Dar V" > wrote in message ... > Hello, > I am getting together with a bunch of friends on the 12th - one is > coming from New York and we have not seen each other in awhile. Anyway, > I'm bringing some of my homemade wine, so I asked her what she might like > to try...? Just heard back, for the past two years, she has found that she > gets kind-of like a heartburn from any type of wine (red or white), so she > doesn't drink much wine anymore. Her allergist thinks its a type of > allergy sensitivity.... Has anyone ever heard of this? Since she probably > has tried grape wines, I'm wondering if my fruit and veggie wines will be > different...? Any ideas. Thanks. > Darlene > |
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Dar,
IMHO it's quite possible that your friend is on to something with the allergy suspicion. For much of my life I've had similar sensitivity to several foods and always described it as heartburn. But I really don't think that's accurate and am pretty sure there is no acid reflux involved. When it got really bad about 15 years ago, my doctor tried treating it with the typical prescription drugs for treating acid reflux and it didn't really help at all (just caused side-effects). Then one day I had a bit of hay fever and took an antihistamine (active ingredient chlorephineramine maleate) and lo and behold the "heartburn" disappeared. Only downside was that I was hooked on the antihistamines for the next 2-3 years, also not ideal. Eventually I cleaned up my diet drastically (vegan, no alcohol/caffeine, low sugar intake, never combining starchy carbs and high protein in the same meal) and after 4 days of that I was fine with no drugs. That only lasted about 4 months, but it seemed to give my system enough of a break that keeping a so-so diet since then has helped me avoid any further serious discomfort. Considering the tons of junk food and processed crap I ingested during the first half of my life, I can't really fault my body for eventually fighting back! hth, Richard Dar V wrote: > Hello, > I am getting together with a bunch of friends on the 12th - one is > coming from New York and we have not seen each other in awhile. Anyway, I'm > bringing some of my homemade wine, so I asked her what she might like to > try...? Just heard back, for the past two years, she has found that she gets > kind-of like a heartburn from any type of wine (red or white), so she > doesn't drink much wine anymore. Her allergist thinks its a type of allergy > sensitivity.... Has anyone ever heard of this? Since she probably has tried > grape wines, I'm wondering if my fruit and veggie wines will be > different...? Any ideas. Thanks. > Darlene |
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Darlene - I'm a retired pharmacist and I also speak from experience. Asthma
can be triggered by reflux at night while a person sleeps. You might mention that to your friend. An antacid before bed just might help. I made the blackberry wine from a concentrate that I diluted before fermentation. So, I was shooting in the dark about how much to dilute and while the finished wine has tons of blackberry aroma and flavor it's too acid to enjoy. I was just trying to find out what the usual acid content was in blackberry wine made from blackberries. Lots of recipes out there. Little data that I can find about the test results of those wines. Bill Frazier Olathe, Kansas USA "Dar V" > wrote in message ... > Hi Bill, > Thanks for the info, I will pass it on. She has asthma and has had > problems with allergies before, although I don't know what to. She's > noticed that as she has gotten older that this problem with wine and > heartburn has occurred, but hasn't known why. Anyway, I'll have to tease > her about this "old" stuff - she's the youngest one of our merry > group...lol. > I talked with my computer-savvy hubby - he's set up my email with this > newsgroup with a fake email to avoid spammers; that's why your email > bounced. Sorry. You can contact me at . > Yes, I have made blackberry wine, but I've never gotten into the habit > of doing acid tests, so I can't help you out there. My recipe came from > Terry Garey's home winemaking book. If you'd like the recipe, I'll send it > to you. However, Jack has a ton of Blackberry recipes on his site I > believe. > Darlene ;o) > > "William Frazier" > wrote in message > ... >> You could try and find out if she has some Nexium or Prilosec. Two or >> three days of either of these medications relieve any hearburn I have and >> wine bothers me some times if I'm not taking the drugs. In my case >> either seem superior to the other OTC acid blockers available. No way to >> tell if non grape wines will bother her without trying them. My guess is >> it's the alcohol. >> >> BTW Darlene, I tried to email you to ask if you make blackberry wine. >> Bounced. My question, what is the acid content of your blackberry wine >> if you make it. >> >> Bill Frazier >> Olathe, Kansas USA >> >> "Dar V" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Hello, >>> I am getting together with a bunch of friends on the 12th - one is >>> coming from New York and we have not seen each other in awhile. Anyway, >>> I'm bringing some of my homemade wine, so I asked her what she might >>> like to try...? Just heard back, for the past two years, she has found >>> that she gets kind-of like a heartburn from any type of wine (red or >>> white), so she doesn't drink much wine anymore. Her allergist thinks its >>> a type of allergy sensitivity.... Has anyone ever heard of this? Since >>> she probably has tried grape wines, I'm wondering if my fruit and veggie >>> wines will be different...? Any ideas. Thanks. >>> Darlene >>> >> >> > > |
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Bill,
I think I'll have lots of info for my friend. Thanks. I made my blackberry out of actual berries, not concentrate. This is a shot in the dark, but I make rhubarb wine also. Rhubarb wine has an excess of oxalic acid, so Jack suggests using precipitated chalk (calcium carbonate) to remove the excess acid prior to fermentation. I've done this a number of times with very good results. I am not a chemist, so the precipitated chalk (calcium carbonate) may only remove oxalic acid, not other types of acid from fruit/and it may not work after fermentation. I don't know, maybe it would be worth a try if the wine is undrinkable (as an experiment). You have my permission to laugh out loud at my lack of chemistry knowledge...really. Darlene ;o) "William Frazier" > wrote in message ... > Darlene - I'm a retired pharmacist and I also speak from experience. > Asthma can be triggered by reflux at night while a person sleeps. You > might mention that to your friend. An antacid before bed just might help. > > I made the blackberry wine from a concentrate that I diluted before > fermentation. So, I was shooting in the dark about how much to dilute and > while the finished wine has tons of blackberry aroma and flavor it's too > acid to enjoy. I was just trying to find out what the usual acid content > was in blackberry wine made from blackberries. Lots of recipes out there. > Little data that I can find about the test results of those wines. > > Bill Frazier > Olathe, Kansas USA > > "Dar V" > wrote in message > ... >> Hi Bill, >> Thanks for the info, I will pass it on. She has asthma and has had >> problems with allergies before, although I don't know what to. She's >> noticed that as she has gotten older that this problem with wine and >> heartburn has occurred, but hasn't known why. Anyway, I'll have to tease >> her about this "old" stuff - she's the youngest one of our merry >> group...lol. >> I talked with my computer-savvy hubby - he's set up my email with this >> newsgroup with a fake email to avoid spammers; that's why your email >> bounced. Sorry. You can contact me at . >> Yes, I have made blackberry wine, but I've never gotten into the habit >> of doing acid tests, so I can't help you out there. My recipe came from >> Terry Garey's home winemaking book. If you'd like the recipe, I'll send >> it to you. However, Jack has a ton of Blackberry recipes on his site I >> believe. >> Darlene ;o) >> >> "William Frazier" > wrote in message >> ... >>> You could try and find out if she has some Nexium or Prilosec. Two or >>> three days of either of these medications relieve any hearburn I have >>> and wine bothers me some times if I'm not taking the drugs. In my case >>> either seem superior to the other OTC acid blockers available. No way >>> to tell if non grape wines will bother her without trying them. My >>> guess is it's the alcohol. >>> >>> BTW Darlene, I tried to email you to ask if you make blackberry wine. >>> Bounced. My question, what is the acid content of your blackberry wine >>> if you make it. >>> >>> Bill Frazier >>> Olathe, Kansas USA >>> >>> "Dar V" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> Hello, >>>> I am getting together with a bunch of friends on the 12th - one is >>>> coming from New York and we have not seen each other in awhile. Anyway, >>>> I'm bringing some of my homemade wine, so I asked her what she might >>>> like to try...? Just heard back, for the past two years, she has found >>>> that she gets kind-of like a heartburn from any type of wine (red or >>>> white), so she doesn't drink much wine anymore. Her allergist thinks >>>> its a type of allergy sensitivity.... Has anyone ever heard of this? >>>> Since she probably has tried grape wines, I'm wondering if my fruit and >>>> veggie wines will be different...? Any ideas. Thanks. >>>> Darlene >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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