Hi

I am about to buy the mini-jet Buono filter kit. I do not need to filter my
wine but I want to use the pump to transfert my wine. It is supposed to
filter 5 gallons of wine in about fifteen minutes but how long would it take
to transfert five gallons of wine to another carboy? I do not think it would
take fifteen minutes without the filtering pad but I want to be sure it
would not take more than 2-3 minutes. It must be fast enough because I have
a fifteen gallons stainless steel keg and a twelve gallons demi-john that
sit on the floor.

If you know of a less costly but efficient solution, I would like to know.
There should be self priming pumps less costly or I would even consider an
efficient manual pump. I searched a lot the Internet, Internet wine stores
and the news group with Google and so far I did not find what I am looking
for.

Thank you

Pin

Pinot Noir wrote:

> I am about to buy the mini-jet Buono filter kit. I do not need to filter my
> wine but I want to use the pump to transfert my wine. It is supposed to
> filter 5 gallons of wine in about fifteen minutes but how long would it take
> to transfert five gallons of wine to another carboy? I do not think it would
> take fifteen minutes without the filtering pad but I want to be sure it
> would not take more than 2-3 minutes. It must be fast enough because I have
> a fifteen gallons stainless steel keg and a twelve gallons demi-john that
> sit on the floor.
>
> If you know of a less costly but efficient solution, I would like to know.
> There should be self priming pumps less costly or I would even consider an
> efficient manual pump. I searched a lot the Internet, Internet wine stores
> and the news group with Google and so far I did not find what I am looking
> for.

I can't answer your question about the speed without filters, but I will
say that, in my experience, WITH the filter, it does NOT take 15 minutes
to transfer 5 US gallons; rather about 8-10 minutes.

Unless you are transferring into a vessel that is higher, why not just
use a siphon? I have a length of 1/2" tubing and one of these:

<http://www.ebizinc.us/SyphonMate.htm>

It starts the siphon easily and will last forever.

-bh

"bron helstrom" > wrote in message
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> Pinot Noir wrote:
>
> > I am about to buy the mini-jet Buono filter kit. I do not need to filter
my
> > wine but I want to use the pump to transfert my wine. It is supposed to
> > filter 5 gallons of wine in about fifteen minutes but how long would it
take
> > to transfert five gallons of wine to another carboy? I do not think it
would
> > take fifteen minutes without the filtering pad but I want to be sure it
> > would not take more than 2-3 minutes. It must be fast enough because I
have
> > a fifteen gallons stainless steel keg and a twelve gallons demi-john
that
> > sit on the floor.
> >
> > If you know of a less costly but efficient solution, I would like to
know.
> > There should be self priming pumps less costly or I would even consider
an
> > efficient manual pump. I searched a lot the Internet, Internet wine
stores
> > and the news group with Google and so far I did not find what I am
looking
> > for.
>
> I can't answer your question about the speed without filters, but I will
> say that, in my experience, WITH the filter, it does NOT take 15 minutes
> to transfer 5 US gallons; rather about 8-10 minutes.

Hi Bron. It is already good to know it.

> Unless you are transferring into a vessel that is higher, why not just
> use a siphon? I have a length of 1/2" tubing and one of these:
>
> <http://www.ebizinc.us/SyphonMate.htm>
>
> It starts the siphon easily and will last forever.

I will be transfering to a vessel that will be at the same level or higher.
I really need a pump.

Pin

"Pinot Noir" > wrote in message
...
>
> "bron helstrom" > wrote in message
> news:WexPd.75143$0u.9161@fed1read04...
> > Pinot Noir wrote:
> >
> > > I am about to buy the mini-jet Buono filter kit. I do not need to
filter
> my
> > > wine but I want to use the pump to transfert my wine. It is supposed
to
> > > filter 5 gallons of wine in about fifteen minutes but how long would
it
> take
> > > to transfert five gallons of wine to another carboy? I do not think it
> would
> > > take fifteen minutes without the filtering pad but I want to be sure
it
> > > would not take more than 2-3 minutes. It must be fast enough because I
> have
> > > a fifteen gallons stainless steel keg and a twelve gallons demi-john
> that
> > > sit on the floor.
> > >
> > > If you know of a less costly but efficient solution, I would like to
> know.
> > > There should be self priming pumps less costly or I would even
consider
> an
> > > efficient manual pump. I searched a lot the Internet, Internet wine
> stores
> > > and the news group with Google and so far I did not find what I am
> looking
> > > for.
> >
> > I can't answer your question about the speed without filters, but I will
> > say that, in my experience, WITH the filter, it does NOT take 15 minutes
> > to transfer 5 US gallons; rather about 8-10 minutes.
>
> Hi Bron. It is already good to know it.
>
> > Unless you are transferring into a vessel that is higher, why not just
> > use a siphon? I have a length of 1/2" tubing and one of these:
> >
> > <http://www.ebizinc.us/SyphonMate.htm>
> >

I want to point out that for wine racking this siphon is not good and I have
one. I mean from a high level carboy to a lower one. To activate the siphon
by pushing it up and down it will stir the particules that sit in the bottom
of the carboy.

Pin

Pinot Noir wrote:
>>>Unless you are transferring into a vessel that is higher, why not just
>>>use a siphon? I have a length of 1/2" tubing and one of these:
>>>
>>><http://www.ebizinc.us/SyphonMate.htm>
>>>
>
> I want to point out that for wine racking this siphon is not good and I have
> one. I mean from a high level carboy to a lower one. To activate the siphon
> by pushing it up and down it will stir the particules that sit in the bottom
> of the carboy.
>
> Pin

I've moved hundreds of gallons using it and I've never had this problem.
Just don't stick it all the way to the bottom at the start. You can
prime it by moving it up and down in the top 5" of the liquid, and move
the tip down as the racking progresses.

Good luck with your mini-jet.

-bh

"bron helstrom" > wrote in message
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> Pinot Noir wrote:
> >>>Unless you are transferring into a vessel that is higher, why not just
> >>>use a siphon? I have a length of 1/2" tubing and one of these:
> >>>
> >>><http://www.ebizinc.us/SyphonMate.htm>
> >>>
> >
> > I want to point out that for wine racking this siphon is not good and I
have
> > one. I mean from a high level carboy to a lower one. To activate the
siphon
> > by pushing it up and down it will stir the particules that sit in the
bottom
> > of the carboy.
> >
> > Pin
>
> it and I've never had this problem.
> Just don't stick it all the way to the bottom at the start. You can
> prime it by moving it up and down in the top 5" of the liquid, and move
> the tip down as the racking progresses.

This is exactly what I have done. I did not put the siphon in the bottom
but as you said about 5-6 inches snd I could see the particles from the
bottom mixing with my wine.. You have moved hundreds of gallons but I only
did it once and I will never do it again. Simple solution instead of
wasting money would be to fill in water your racking cane and tube. Sorry
but you've moved hundreds of gallons using.it? I did once and I will not do
it again.

Pin

"Pinot Noir" > wrote in message
...
> Hi
>
> I am about to buy the mini-jet Buono filter kit. I do not need to filter
my
> wine but I want to use the pump to transfert my wine.

If you just want to pump the wine you may want to tinker with the mini jet
to disable the flow to the filter membranes and directly into a hose to the
receiving vessel.