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R-D-C 06-10-2004 09:16 PM

Floaters
 
Hi again!

OK, my white has been in a demijohn for about a week after racking, adding
campden and adding fining.

It is looking pretty clear to my amateurish eyes but around the top of the
demijohn and floating on the surface of the liquid is some off-white stuff.
Looks like the yeast at the bottom. Is this normal or have I killed it
somehow?



Ed Marks 06-10-2004 09:41 PM

What was the fining that you added and did you do that after you racked?

"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message ...
> Hi again!
>
> OK, my white has been in a demijohn for about a week after racking, adding
> campden and adding fining.
>
> It is looking pretty clear to my amateurish eyes but around the top of the
> demijohn and floating on the surface of the liquid is some off-white
> stuff. Looks like the yeast at the bottom. Is this normal or have I
> killed it somehow?
>




R-D-C 06-10-2004 09:52 PM

I racked and added a campden tablet. 24 hours later add the fining
(Vinclear)



"Ed Marks" > wrote in message
...
> What was the fining that you added and did you do that after you racked?
>
> "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi again!
>>
>> OK, my white has been in a demijohn for about a week after racking,
>> adding campden and adding fining.
>>
>> It is looking pretty clear to my amateurish eyes but around the top of
>> the demijohn and floating on the surface of the liquid is some off-white
>> stuff. Looks like the yeast at the bottom. Is this normal or have I
>> killed it somehow?
>>

>
>




Bob 06-10-2004 10:27 PM


R-D-C <nospam> wrote in message ...
> I racked and added a campden tablet. 24 hours later add the fining
> (Vinclear)
>
>
>
> "Ed Marks" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What was the fining that you added and did you do that after you racked?
> >
> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Hi again!
> >>
> >> OK, my white has been in a demijohn for about a week after racking,
> >> adding campden and adding fining.
> >>
> >> It is looking pretty clear to my amateurish eyes but around the top of
> >> the demijohn and floating on the surface of the liquid is some

off-white
> >> stuff. Looks like the yeast at the bottom. Is this normal or have I
> >> killed it somehow?
> >>

Sounds to me that your fining/campden tabs had a small amount of wax or
something in the, I am looking at two carboys with the same situation.
Usually when racking into a bottle, the floaters are left behind, sticking
to the side of the carboy.



R-D-C 06-10-2004 10:35 PM

Thanks for the info Bob.

This is my first go at winemaking and that is my first kit. Been reading
too much and starting to worry (unduly I hope) about all the different
problems I could face! I guess once I have a few gallons under my belt I
might worry less.

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>
> R-D-C <nospam> wrote in message ...
>> I racked and added a campden tablet. 24 hours later add the fining
>> (Vinclear)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ed Marks" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > What was the fining that you added and did you do that after you
>> > racked?
>> >
>> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Hi again!
>> >>
>> >> OK, my white has been in a demijohn for about a week after racking,
>> >> adding campden and adding fining.
>> >>
>> >> It is looking pretty clear to my amateurish eyes but around the top of
>> >> the demijohn and floating on the surface of the liquid is some

> off-white
>> >> stuff. Looks like the yeast at the bottom. Is this normal or have I
>> >> killed it somehow?
>> >>

> Sounds to me that your fining/campden tabs had a small amount of wax or
> something in the, I am looking at two carboys with the same situation.
> Usually when racking into a bottle, the floaters are left behind, sticking
> to the side of the carboy.
>
>




Andrew 07-10-2004 12:14 AM



R-D-C wrote:
I guess once I have a few gallons under my belt I
> might worry less.


Literally!

Ed Marks 07-10-2004 01:26 AM

I suspect Bob is right. I'd never heard of Vinclear and did a search on it
and found the following:

"VINCLEAR is a highly effective fining reagent, containing a mixture of both
freeze-dried isinglass and silica hydrogel."

I used isinglass twice in the past, and the first time I ended up with some
white bits floating near the top of the carboy - as it turned out I hadn't
adequately mixed the isinglass - so it's probably either that or the silica
gel. In a few weeks my white bits sunk to the bottom. I'd only worry about
it if the volume of white stuff grows.

Ed



">> >>
> Sounds to me that your fining/campden tabs had a small amount of wax or
> something in the, I am looking at two carboys with the same situation.
> Usually when racking into a bottle, the floaters are left behind, sticking
> to the side of the carboy.
>
>




Bob 07-10-2004 03:19 AM

R-D-C <nospam> wrote in message ...
> Thanks for the info Bob.
>
> This is my first go at winemaking and that is my first kit. Been reading
> too much and starting to worry (unduly I hope) about all the different
> problems I could face! I guess once I have a few gallons under my belt I
> might worry less.


A few gallons under your belt will put you on the floor! LOL!!
Seriously, it is not a difficult hobby and the rewards of your labors
are delicious. People try to make it so much harder than it has to be..... I
have actually quite buying alcoholic beverages; I make all my own beer and
wine. I currently have some nice amber beer, and vintage 2000 in Blueberry
and Apple wines. Coming up this fall, I'll be bottling 5 gallons each of
apple mead and straight apple wine. My next batches will be cherry and a
white concord grape.
>
> "Bob" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > R-D-C <nospam> wrote in message

...
> >> I racked and added a campden tablet. 24 hours later add the fining
> >> (Vinclear)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ed Marks" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > What was the fining that you added and did you do that after you
> >> > racked?
> >> >
> >> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> Hi again!
> >> >>
> >> >> OK, my white has been in a demijohn for about a week after racking,
> >> >> adding campden and adding fining.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is looking pretty clear to my amateurish eyes but around the top

of
> >> >> the demijohn and floating on the surface of the liquid is some

> > off-white
> >> >> stuff. Looks like the yeast at the bottom. Is this normal or have I
> >> >> killed it somehow?
> >> >>

> > Sounds to me that your fining/campden tabs had a small amount of wax

or
> > something in the, I am looking at two carboys with the same situation.
> > Usually when racking into a bottle, the floaters are left behind,

sticking
> > to the side of the carboy.
> >
> >

>
>




R-D-C 07-10-2004 07:07 PM

I will be keeping a close eye on it :)

Cos it is a quick kit, it suggests two weeks after racking it is ready to
bottle. I guess I wilo know by then.

"Ed Marks" > wrote in message
...
>I suspect Bob is right. I'd never heard of Vinclear and did a search on it
>and found the following:
>
> "VINCLEAR is a highly effective fining reagent, containing a mixture of
> both freeze-dried isinglass and silica hydrogel."
>
> I used isinglass twice in the past, and the first time I ended up with
> some white bits floating near the top of the carboy - as it turned out I
> hadn't adequately mixed the isinglass - so it's probably either that or
> the silica gel. In a few weeks my white bits sunk to the bottom. I'd
> only worry about it if the volume of white stuff grows.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> ">> >>
>> Sounds to me that your fining/campden tabs had a small amount of wax
>> or
>> something in the, I am looking at two carboys with the same situation.
>> Usually when racking into a bottle, the floaters are left behind,
>> sticking
>> to the side of the carboy.
>>
>>

>
>




Ed Marks 07-10-2004 07:27 PM

No matter how quick the kit says it is, two weeks is WAY too fast to bottle
it. I'd give it at least several months.

Ed

"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message ...
>I will be keeping a close eye on it :)
>
> Cos it is a quick kit, it suggests two weeks after racking it is ready to
> bottle. I guess I wilo know by then.
>
> "Ed Marks" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I suspect Bob is right. I'd never heard of Vinclear and did a search on
>>it and found the following:
>>
>> "VINCLEAR is a highly effective fining reagent, containing a mixture of
>> both freeze-dried isinglass and silica hydrogel."
>>
>> I used isinglass twice in the past, and the first time I ended up with
>> some white bits floating near the top of the carboy - as it turned out I
>> hadn't adequately mixed the isinglass - so it's probably either that or
>> the silica gel. In a few weeks my white bits sunk to the bottom. I'd
>> only worry about it if the volume of white stuff grows.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> ">> >>
>>> Sounds to me that your fining/campden tabs had a small amount of wax
>>> or
>>> something in the, I am looking at two carboys with the same situation.
>>> Usually when racking into a bottle, the floaters are left behind,
>>> sticking
>>> to the side of the carboy.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>





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