I'm part owner of a tract of undeveloped acreage (~22 acres), and
occasionally take a walk through the woods. This afternoon, I came across an
old junk pile, consisting mostly of a few rusted cans and broken bottles.
One of those bottles was apparently an old liquor bottle, screwtop, no label
remaining, but with the following embossed (raised?) on the glass: "Federal
law forbids sale or reuse of this bottle." At the bottom was also embossed:
"4/5 Quart."

Is there some federal statute that we violate every time we reuse a wine
bottle?

Bart

Who knows, there's a lot of old strange laws on the books.
Hope not.
Against recycling?
Logical government - an oxymoron.
;0)
Darlene

"bwesley7" > wrote in message
news:kQelc.3300$nN6.2773@lakeread06...
> I'm part owner of a tract of undeveloped acreage (~22 acres), and
> occasionally take a walk through the woods. This afternoon, I came across
an
> old junk pile, consisting mostly of a few rusted cans and broken bottles.
> One of those bottles was apparently an old liquor bottle, screwtop, no
label
> remaining, but with the following embossed (raised?) on the glass:
"Federal
> law forbids sale or reuse of this bottle." At the bottom was also
embossed:
> "4/5 Quart."
>
> Is there some federal statute that we violate every time we reuse a wine
> bottle?
>
> Bart
>
>
>
>

In article <kQelc.3300$nN6.2773@lakeread06>, "bwesley7" > wrote:
>I'm part owner of a tract of undeveloped acreage (~22 acres), and
>occasionally take a walk through the woods. This afternoon, I came across an
>old junk pile, consisting mostly of a few rusted cans and broken bottles.
>One of those bottles was apparently an old liquor bottle, screwtop, no label
>remaining, but with the following embossed (raised?) on the glass: "Federal
>law forbids sale or reuse of this bottle." At the bottom was also embossed:
>"4/5 Quart."
>
>Is there some federal statute that we violate every time we reuse a wine
>bottle?
>
Not AFAIK. But reuse of bottles that originally held distilled spirits is not
permitted.

Go go google again

http://www.antique-bottles.net/forum.../m_5539/tm.htm

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By force impossible, by leave obtained
Unacceptable, though in Heav'n, our state
Of splendid vassalage, but rather seek
Our own good from ourselves, and from our own
Live to ourselves, though in this vast recess,
Free, and to none accountable, preferring
Hard liberty before the easy yoke
Of servile pomp.
- Mammon, Paradise Lost
"bwesley7" > wrote in message
news:kQelc.3300$nN6.2773@lakeread06...
> I'm part owner of a tract of undeveloped acreage (~22 acres), and
> occasionally take a walk through the woods. This afternoon, I came across
an
> old junk pile, consisting mostly of a few rusted cans and broken bottles.
> One of those bottles was apparently an old liquor bottle, screwtop, no
label
> remaining, but with the following embossed (raised?) on the glass:
"Federal
> law forbids sale or reuse of this bottle." At the bottom was also
embossed:
> "4/5 Quart."
>
> Is there some federal statute that we violate every time we reuse a wine
> bottle?
>
> Bart
>
>
>
>

Thanks for the link -- good answer!


"Adam Lang" > wrote in message
...
> Go go google again
>
> http://www.antique-bottles.net/forum.../m_5539/tm.htm
>
> --
>
> ---
> Let us not then pursue
> By force impossible, by leave obtained
> Unacceptable, though in Heav'n, our state
> Of splendid vassalage, but rather seek
> Our own good from ourselves, and from our own
> Live to ourselves, though in this vast recess,
> Free, and to none accountable, preferring
> Hard liberty before the easy yoke
> Of servile pomp.
> - Mammon, Paradise Lost
> "bwesley7" > wrote in message
> news:kQelc.3300$nN6.2773@lakeread06...
> > I'm part owner of a tract of undeveloped acreage (~22 acres), and
> > occasionally take a walk through the woods. This afternoon, I came
across
> an
> > old junk pile, consisting mostly of a few rusted cans and broken
bottles.
> > One of those bottles was apparently an old liquor bottle, screwtop, no
> label
> > remaining, but with the following embossed (raised?) on the glass:
> "Federal
> > law forbids sale or reuse of this bottle." At the bottom was also
> embossed:
> > "4/5 Quart."
> >
> > Is there some federal statute that we violate every time we reuse a wine
> > bottle?
> >
> > Bart
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

If they want you, they can get you. Here in Texas it is illegal to carry a
pair of pliers in the trunk of your car. (From the fence cutting war days)
and they use that law when they need to get someone. It is legal for you to
make wine to be consumed at your own table but it is illegal for you to give
a bottle to a friend or consume it at his table. (There are provisions for
wine contests.) I suspect that most of us break some of those laws. Not me
off course but most of us.

Ray
"bwesley7" > wrote in message
news:kQelc.3300$nN6.2773@lakeread06...
> I'm part owner of a tract of undeveloped acreage (~22 acres), and
> occasionally take a walk through the woods. This afternoon, I came across
an
> old junk pile, consisting mostly of a few rusted cans and broken bottles.
> One of those bottles was apparently an old liquor bottle, screwtop, no
label
> remaining, but with the following embossed (raised?) on the glass:
"Federal
> law forbids sale or reuse of this bottle." At the bottom was also
embossed:
> "4/5 Quart."
>
> Is there some federal statute that we violate every time we reuse a wine
> bottle?
>
> Bart
>
>
>
>

> "bwesley7" > wrote in message
> news:kQelc.3300$nN6.2773@lakeread06...
> "Federal
> > law forbids sale or reuse of this bottle." At the bottom was also
> embossed:
> > "4/5 Quart."
> >
> > Is there some federal statute that we violate every time we reuse a wine
> > bottle?
> >

I think that's a hold over from the days when there were returnable
bottles and reusable bottles. Returnable had a deposit on them but
could not be refilled, the glass could be recycled and the bottle
re-made. Reusable had (usually) a higher deposit and could be refilled
with out remaking the bottle.

I don't know of anyone that uses reusable bottles anymore. It costs
too much to make the original bottle (they had to be thicker) and to
handle all of the regulations about cleaning and sanitizing. It's
cheeper just to remake the bottle.

Andy

JEP wrote:

> I don't know of anyone that uses reusable bottles anymore. It costs
> too much to make the original bottle (they had to be thicker) and to
> handle all of the regulations about cleaning and sanitizing. It's
> cheeper just to remake the bottle.

Almost all domestic beer in Ontario is packaged in returnable, reusable
bottles...

--
charles
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
"I certainly do not drink all the time. I have to sleep you know."
- W.C. Fields

Charles H > wrote in message >...
>
> Almost all domestic beer in Ontario is packaged in returnable, reusable
> bottles...

Sorry, I should have specified in the US.

Andy

In article >,
JEP > wrote:
>Charles H > wrote in message
>...

>> Almost all domestic beer in Ontario is packaged in returnable, reusable
>> bottles...

>Sorry, I should have specified in the US.

Coors, Bud, Miller . . . the cases of reusable are certainly still sold
out here. They come in a heavier, apparently reusable, waxy case, and
are heavy longneck bottles. They cost a bit more to leave the
distributor with, but you can bring them back for the deposit.

The one time I did this (for a meeting, not myself) I noticed that many
of the bottles showed visible wear.

hawk
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(Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message >...
>
> Coors, Bud, Miller . . . the cases of reusable are certainly still sold
> out here. They come in a heavier, apparently reusable, waxy case, and
> are heavy longneck bottles. They cost a bit more to leave the
> distributor with, but you can bring them back for the deposit.
>
> The one time I did this (for a meeting, not myself) I noticed that many
> of the bottles showed visible wear.
>
> hawk

I guess I should have restricted the location further. Where is "out
here" ?

I haven't seen those around in 10 years and every time I've asked
(retailers, wholesalers) about them I was told they were no longer
being used due to cost. I have a few cases of 16 oz I use for my beer
and would love to get my hands on some more, even if I have to buy
BudMillCoors. I'm sure I can find someone to drink the beer :-)

Any help you can give me about finding them would be appreciated.

Sorry for the mis-information. I stand corrected.

Andy

JEP wrote:

> Charles H > wrote in message
> >...
> >
> > Almost all domestic beer in Ontario is packaged in returnable, reusable
> > bottles...
>
> Sorry, I should have specified in the US.

I wasn't trying to be facetious, just sayin' for general interest's
sake.

--
charles
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
"I certainly do not drink all the time. I have to sleep you know."
- W.C. Fields

In article >,
JEP > wrote:
(Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message
>...
>>
>> Coors, Bud, Miller . . . the cases of reusable are certainly still sold
>> out here. They come in a heavier, apparently reusable, waxy case, and
>> are heavy longneck bottles. They cost a bit more to leave the
>> distributor with, but you can bring them back for the deposit.
>>
>> The one time I did this (for a meeting, not myself) I noticed that many
>> of the bottles showed visible wear.

>I guess I should have restricted the location further. Where is "out
>here" ?

West-central pennsylvania

>I haven't seen those around in 10 years and every time I've asked
>(retailers, wholesalers) about them I was told they were no longer
>being used due to cost. I have a few cases of 16 oz I use for my beer
>and would love to get my hands on some more, even if I have to buy
>BudMillCoors. I'm sure I can find someone to drink the beer :-)

Watch for beer in brown, non-twistoff longnecks. I believe that they're
the same bottles.

Oh, try bars. I think they tend to use them.

hawk
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(Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> JEP > wrote:
>
> >I guess I should have restricted the location further. Where is "out
> >here" ?
>
> West-central pennsylvania

I'll have to take a look the next time I'm in the area.

>
>
> Watch for beer in brown, non-twistoff longnecks. I believe that they're
> the same bottles.
>
> Oh, try bars. I think they tend to use them.

Around here, those aren't reusable. We still have long necks (bar
bottles), but they are no longer reusable, only returnable. They must
be recycled and the bottles re-made. That's what I've seen everywhere
I've traveled.

Reusable brown bottles almost always have these two rings of scratches
around the body of the bottle. It comes from going through the washing
and bottling lines so many times.

Thanks, I'll keep my eyes open the next time I'm in PA.

Andy

Charles H > wrote in message >...
>
> I wasn't trying to be facetious, just sayin' for general interest's
> sake.

And my apology was sincere. Sometimes I forget the group has many
members from around the world, particularly from Canada and Australia.

Andy