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Alfonse
 
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Default timing of adding oak chips

Hi,
I was wondering if adding oak chips to a batch of red wine that bulk aging
would be ok. The wine is 4 months old and was made from grapes. A local wine
place said its too late. They usually add it to (kit) wine during
fermentation.
Thanks


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Patrick McDonald
 
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You'll always extract the oak flavor when in contact with the liquid. Your
local shop was hopefully intending that you'd get a stronger extract from
the chips due to the vigorous (and thus turbulent) action of initial
fermentation.

I just added cubes to a 1 year old Marechal Foch to help the topping up and
get oak character. There's no reason you cannot...

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> Hi,
> I was wondering if adding oak chips to a batch of red wine that bulk aging
> would be ok. The wine is 4 months old and was made from grapes. A local

wine
> place said its too late. They usually add it to (kit) wine during
> fermentation.
> Thanks
>
>



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"Patrick McDonald" > wrote in
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> You'll always extract the oak flavor when in contact with the liquid. Your
> local shop was hopefully intending that you'd get a stronger extract from
> the chips due to the vigorous (and thus turbulent) action of initial
> fermentation.


One might expect that intuitively, but the fact is the fermentation tends to
fine out the harsher tannins from the wood, so the resulting infusion of oak
is better integrated into the wine's profile.

If you don't believe me, try it for yourself. :^)

Tom S


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Alfonse
 
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Thanks, I'm going to add the oak to 1 carboy and see what happens. I'll
still have 100 liters un-oaked for comparison!
Alfonse
"Patrick McDonald" > wrote in
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> You'll always extract the oak flavor when in contact with the liquid. Your
> local shop was hopefully intending that you'd get a stronger extract from
> the chips due to the vigorous (and thus turbulent) action of initial
> fermentation.
>
> I just added cubes to a 1 year old Marechal Foch to help the topping up

and
> get oak character. There's no reason you cannot...
>
> "Alfonse" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi,
> > I was wondering if adding oak chips to a batch of red wine that bulk

aging
> > would be ok. The wine is 4 months old and was made from grapes. A local

> wine
> > place said its too late. They usually add it to (kit) wine during
> > fermentation.
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
>



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Patrick McDonald
 
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No, Tom, I certainly believe you! Thanks for the information.

"Tom S" > wrote in message
om...
>
> "Patrick McDonald" > wrote in
> message ...
> > You'll always extract the oak flavor when in contact with the liquid.

Your
> > local shop was hopefully intending that you'd get a stronger extract

from
> > the chips due to the vigorous (and thus turbulent) action of initial
> > fermentation.

>
> One might expect that intuitively, but the fact is the fermentation tends

to
> fine out the harsher tannins from the wood, so the resulting infusion of

oak
> is better integrated into the wine's profile.
>
> If you don't believe me, try it for yourself. :^)
>
> Tom S
>
>




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