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Joe Ae
 
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I am hoping to start a general discussion on blending wines.

I can see some technical reasons to blend wines such as balancing the acids
or tannins. Complimenting flavors. Correcting faults. Some of the worlds
great wines are blends (Bordeaux, chianti). Sounds promising?

What are some key factors to consider when blending? What interactions
occur in the wine when you blend? What are some people's experience?





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Dave
 
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I try it for fun but follow a few time honored recopies. Look around
and you'll find some traditional blend guidelines.

There is a book out called "Vino Italiano" that has some great
examples of Super Tuscan reds.

Just won a gold medal with a Tignanello blend.
Its a Super Tuscan with a majority being Sangiovese. A little Cab and
a little Merlot.
Its wonderful!

Dave Stacy



On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:16:42 -0500, "Joe Ae" >
wrote:

>I am hoping to start a general discussion on blending wines.
>
>I can see some technical reasons to blend wines such as balancing the acids
>or tannins. Complimenting flavors. Correcting faults. Some of the worlds
>great wines are blends (Bordeaux, chianti). Sounds promising?
>
>What are some key factors to consider when blending? What interactions
>occur in the wine when you blend? What are some people's experience?
>
>
>
>


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Steve
 
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On 2/20/2004 9:00 PM, Dave wrote:

> I try it for fun but follow a few time honored recopies. Look around
> and you'll find some traditional blend guidelines.
>
> There is a book out called "Vino Italiano" that has some great
> examples of Super Tuscan reds.
>
> Just won a gold medal with a Tignanello blend.
> Its a Super Tuscan with a majority being Sangiovese. A little Cab and
> a little Merlot.
> Its wonderful!
>
> Dave Stacy
>
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:16:42 -0500, "Joe Ae" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>I am hoping to start a general discussion on blending wines.
>>
>>I can see some technical reasons to blend wines such as balancing the acids
>>or tannins. Complimenting flavors. Correcting faults. Some of the worlds
>>great wines are blends (Bordeaux, chianti). Sounds promising?
>>
>>What are some key factors to consider when blending? What interactions
>>occur in the wine when you blend? What are some people's experience?


Just bottled a Cabernet Sauvignon / Zinfandel blend with excellent
results. No science, no recipe just a simple 50/50 blend.

Steve

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Glen Duff
 
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Joe,

You can find a wealth of information by searching the newsgroup archives.

One very good practice is to try several small samples of the wines to
be blended using different ratios. Generally speaking it is usually
disappointing when two very distinctive flavours are blended as the
uniqueness of each is often lost. There are many exceptions however,
such as my annual Bordeaux blend of barreled Cabernet Sauvignon and
Merlot in a 60:40 ratio or a 50:50 blend. It is quite difficult to
improve two faulty wines by blending other than the obvious
complementary blending such as a higher acid wine with a lower acid
wine. That being said, I had one of my carboys of Riesling during cold
stabilization on my porch that was slightly over-oxidized as a result of
a faulty lid that I did not discover for about 3 weeks. The wine did
not have the strong off-taste of an over-oxidized wine but it had lost
something. I blended it with a Gewurztraminer that I accidently
over-sulfited a year ago and was surprised with the improvement over
either of the unblended wines.

Good luck,

Glen Duff

Joe Ae wrote:

> I am hoping to start a general discussion on blending wines.
>
> I can see some technical reasons to blend wines such as balancing the acids
> or tannins. Complimenting flavors. Correcting faults. Some of the worlds
> great wines are blends (Bordeaux, chianti). Sounds promising?
>
> What are some key factors to consider when blending? What interactions
> occur in the wine when you blend? What are some people's experience?
>
>
>
>
>
>


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K.J.Kristiansen
 
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I only use blending for two purposes:
1. To correct acidity when a batch is too acidic
2. To get more uniform quality when I need larger batches for storage.

I do not recommend blending to "correct faults". It will mostly ruin
the good batch too.

Steve > wrote in message >...
> On 2/20/2004 9:00 PM, Dave wrote:
>
> > I try it for fun but follow a few time honored recopies. Look around
> > and you'll find some traditional blend guidelines.
> >
> > There is a book out called "Vino Italiano" that has some great
> > examples of Super Tuscan reds.
> >
> > Just won a gold medal with a Tignanello blend.
> > Its a Super Tuscan with a majority being Sangiovese. A little Cab and
> > a little Merlot.
> > Its wonderful!
> >
> > Dave Stacy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:16:42 -0500, "Joe Ae" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I am hoping to start a general discussion on blending wines.
> >>
> >>I can see some technical reasons to blend wines such as balancing the acids
> >>or tannins. Complimenting flavors. Correcting faults. Some of the worlds
> >>great wines are blends (Bordeaux, chianti). Sounds promising?
> >>
> >>What are some key factors to consider when blending? What interactions
> >>occur in the wine when you blend? What are some people's experience?

>
> Just bottled a Cabernet Sauvignon / Zinfandel blend with excellent
> results. No science, no recipe just a simple 50/50 blend.
>
> Steve



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Joe Ae
 
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Steve

Looks like you started with 2 wines and ended up with 3 wines (cab
sauv/zinfandel, cab sauv and zinfadel). Which one do you like best?

enjoy

Joe

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> On 2/20/2004 9:00 PM, Dave wrote:
>
> > I try it for fun but follow a few time honored recopies. Look around
> > and you'll find some traditional blend guidelines.
> >
> > There is a book out called "Vino Italiano" that has some great
> > examples of Super Tuscan reds.
> >
> > Just won a gold medal with a Tignanello blend.
> > Its a Super Tuscan with a majority being Sangiovese. A little Cab and
> > a little Merlot.
> > Its wonderful!
> >
> > Dave Stacy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:16:42 -0500, "Joe Ae" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I am hoping to start a general discussion on blending wines.
> >>
> >>I can see some technical reasons to blend wines such as balancing the

acids
> >>or tannins. Complimenting flavors. Correcting faults. Some of the

worlds
> >>great wines are blends (Bordeaux, chianti). Sounds promising?
> >>
> >>What are some key factors to consider when blending? What interactions
> >>occur in the wine when you blend? What are some people's experience?

>
> Just bottled a Cabernet Sauvignon / Zinfandel blend with excellent
> results. No science, no recipe just a simple 50/50 blend.
>
> Steve
>



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On 2/21/2004 9:11 PM, Joe Ae wrote:
> Steve
>
> Looks like you started with 2 wines and ended up with 3 wines (cab
> sauv/zinfandel, cab sauv and zinfadel). Which one do you like best?
>
> enjoy
>
> Joe
>
> "Steve" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>On 2/20/2004 9:00 PM, Dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I try it for fun but follow a few time honored recopies. Look around
>>>and you'll find some traditional blend guidelines.
>>>
>>>There is a book out called "Vino Italiano" that has some great
>>>examples of Super Tuscan reds.
>>>
>>>Just won a gold medal with a Tignanello blend.
>>>Its a Super Tuscan with a majority being Sangiovese. A little Cab and
>>>a little Merlot.
>>>Its wonderful!
>>>
>>>Dave Stacy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:16:42 -0500, "Joe Ae" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am hoping to start a general discussion on blending wines.
>>>>
>>>>I can see some technical reasons to blend wines such as balancing the

>
> acids
>
>>>>or tannins. Complimenting flavors. Correcting faults. Some of the

>
> worlds
>
>>>>great wines are blends (Bordeaux, chianti). Sounds promising?
>>>>
>>>>What are some key factors to consider when blending? What interactions
>>>>occur in the wine when you blend? What are some people's experience?

>>
>>Just bottled a Cabernet Sauvignon / Zinfandel blend with excellent
>>results. No science, no recipe just a simple 50/50 blend.
>>
>>Steve
>>



Why all of them of course. Actually that's a good question. We blended
half of our batch (130 gal) when we racked but we still have 30 gals of
Zin and 30 gallons of Cab in plastic barrels waiting to go into an oak
barrel. We will taste before we put the next batch into oak and make a
decision then.
We are aging in a 120 liter oak barrel for 3 months before bottling.
This keeps wine in the barrel all year long and breaks the bottling into
four sessions.
I have returned to wine making after a 28 year hiatus and have been
pleased with the results. We are using some of the same equipment -
crusher and press - that my grandfather and uncle used some 60 to 70
years ago. I grew up drinking their wine, as kids we got to have a
small glass whenever we visited for Sunday dinner. It has been very
gratifying.

Steve

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Alastair Thomson
 
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For me, blending is about adding complexity to already good wines - you
can't fix faults, just dilute them a little.

My best blend to date (won a gold) is a Shiraz/Merlot/Cab blend, 85%
Shiraz, 10% Merlot, 5% Cab.

I arrived at those numbers through tasting - I wanted to retain the
character of the Shiraz, but I wanted to add more complex fruit - the
Shiraz was one dimensional fruit wise, but was still good, I also wanted to
extend the finish with some stronger tannins.

So I started with a 50/50 Shiraz/Merlot and worked my way down to 80/20
when i felt it was getting the right level of fruit from the Merlot without
loosing the Shirazness of the wine. I wanted a little more tannin 'though,
so I started blending in a little of a very tannic Cab. The end result was
better than the sum of all three.

The keys to good blending IMHO are to
a) Start with good wines
b) Know what you want to achieve
c) Try several ratios and refine what you want - a serological pipette is
a great help here since it allows you to very accurately measure out a few
mls of each wine - easier if you have several barrels full, but I only had
5 gallons of each.

Alastair

On 2004-02-20 20:16:42 -0500, "Joe Ae" > said:

> I am hoping to start a general discussion on blending wines.
>
> I can see some technical reasons to blend wines such as balancing the

acids
> or tannins. Complimenting flavors. Correcting faults. Some of the

worlds
> great wines are blends (Bordeaux, chianti). Sounds promising?
>
> What are some key factors to consider when blending? What interactions
> occur in the wine when you blend? What are some people's experience?
>
>
>
>
>
>



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