Anyone had positive experiences with NZ Rieslings? Is so which ones do
you like? It is the theme for our December tasting and I have had little
to no experience with them.

"Lawrence Leichtman" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone had positive experiences with NZ Rieslings? Is so which ones do
> you like? It is the theme for our December tasting and I have had little
> to no experience with them.

I've enjoyed Giesen and Kim Crawford, 2003 and 2004. I had a 2004 Cloudy
Bay a while back that I thought was pretty elegant, but not worth the $40
tariff.

I know I've got some others in the cellar - I'll add a few to the list when
I get home tonight.

Lord Helier can provide many more in-depth suggestions if he's online.

Dean

DPM wrote:
> "Lawrence Leichtman" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Anyone had positive experiences with NZ Rieslings? Is so which ones do
>>you like? It is the theme for our December tasting and I have had little
>>to no experience with them.
>
>
> I've enjoyed Giesen and Kim Crawford, 2003 and 2004. I had a 2004 Cloudy
> Bay a while back that I thought was pretty elegant, but not worth the $40
> tariff.
>
> I know I've got some others in the cellar - I'll add a few to the list when
> I get home tonight.
>
> Lord Helier can provide many more in-depth suggestions if he's online.
>
> Dean
>
>


I'd suggest either of the Martinborough Vineyard Rieslings. I enjoyed
their 2005 Manu Riesling recently - the Jackson Block Riesling is
slghtly drier. These are new labelling, it just used to be
"Martinborough Vineyard Riesling".

Then there is always Shingle Peak from Marlborough - consistently
drinkable at the cheaper end of the scale.

--brian

--
"What's life? Life's easy. A quirk of matter. Nature's way of keeping
meat fresh."

Thanks, I will try several and see what others bring.

In article >, Brian Boutel <fake@fake> wrote:

> DPM wrote:
> > "Lawrence Leichtman" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Anyone had positive experiences with NZ Rieslings? Is so which ones do
> >>you like? It is the theme for our December tasting and I have had little
> >>to no experience with them.
> >
> >
> > I've enjoyed Giesen and Kim Crawford, 2003 and 2004. I had a 2004 Cloudy
> > Bay a while back that I thought was pretty elegant, but not worth the $40
> > tariff.
> >
> > I know I've got some others in the cellar - I'll add a few to the list when
> > I get home tonight.
> >
> > Lord Helier can provide many more in-depth suggestions if he's online.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
>
>
> I'd suggest either of the Martinborough Vineyard Rieslings. I enjoyed
> their 2005 Manu Riesling recently - the Jackson Block Riesling is
> slghtly drier. These are new labelling, it just used to be
> "Martinborough Vineyard Riesling".
>
> Then there is always Shingle Peak from Marlborough - consistently
> drinkable at the cheaper end of the scale.
>
> --brian

"DPM" > wrote in message news:lljlf.5069$H84.2082@trnddc04...
>
> "Lawrence Leichtman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Anyone had positive experiences with NZ Rieslings? Is so which ones do
> > you like? It is the theme for our December tasting and I have had little
> > to no experience with them.
>
> I've enjoyed Giesen and Kim Crawford, 2003 and 2004. I had a 2004 Cloudy
> Bay a while back that I thought was pretty elegant, but not worth the $40
> tariff.
>
> I know I've got some others in the cellar - I'll add a few to the list
when
> I get home tonight.
>
> Lord Helier can provide many more in-depth suggestions if he's online.
>
> Dean
>
I also have a Seifreid 2004 that's pretty good.

Dean

You may wish to have a look here;
http://www.wineshow.co.nz/WineShowMain.asp

This is a site listing the results of the major wine competitions held
in NZ.
Not all the wines will be available overseas, but it may help.

I stopped purchasing NZ reislings around 2000, so I'm not up to
date on the latest offerings.
Nga Waka (Martinborough) was a favourite. Very dry. Most NZ R's
have quite a bit of residual sugar.

cheers greybeard

"Lawrence Leichtman" asked of the group.....

> Anyone had positive experiences with NZ Rieslings.
> If so which ones do you like?

Lawrence, NZ Riesling covers the whole gambit, from bone dry, right through
to botrytised sweeties.

As usual, the biggest problem is sourcing anything of real quality -
because, most producers exporting Riesling send only wines produced in
*reasonable* volumes.

So, two that are worth a look are the Villa Maria Private Bin Riesling and
the Stoneleigh Marlborough Riesling which you should find widely stocked;
together with Shingle Peak Marlborough Riesling - if you find these from
2000-2002 they should show well.

IMNSHO the best NZ Riesling is the Pegasus Bay "Aria" from Waipara,
Canterbury - this is a late harvest, slightly lower alcohol beauty - if
anyone can find one, grab it. Alas, it is scarce as rocking-horse sh*t.

Villa Maria have made a succession of very fine botrytised Rieslings under
their Reserve label - I know that NZ has trouble conforming to EU importing
restrictions so it is not available in the UK - I simply don't know if it
available elsewhere.

As a rule, *most* NZ Riesling is made in a medium/dry style, and generally
they are reasonable examples of a cool-climate wine. I know that several
wineries make both a dry and medium style - read the label - good luck
obtaining what is available - some will be nicely expressive of the variety,
some will be *a bit ordinary*.

Notwithstanding the fact that many NZ wineries make some excellent Riesling,
because of that exported/availability factor, I am afraid you will not be
able to see how well Riesling does in NZ.

Over the years, I have had a couple which were well developed in that dry
Alsatian style, but never (not one) that could be mistaken for that floral
delicacy from Mosel.

Good luck - report your findings

--

st.helier

"st.helier" > skrev i meddelandet
...
> "Lawrence Leichtman" asked of the group.....
>
> Villa Maria have made a succession of very fine botrytised Rieslings under
> their Reserve label - I know that NZ has trouble conforming to EU
> importing restrictions so it is not available in the UK - I simply don't
> know if it available elsewhere.


PMJI - (also pulling forelock and making, as always, a leg)
What would be the EU importing restrictions? As long as it contains minimum
85 % of the varietal ... ? Or am I being unbelievably dense?

Cheers

Nils Gsutaf
--
Respond to nils dot lindgren at drchips dot se

"Nils Gustaf Lindgren" wrote .............
>
> PMJI - (also pulling forelock and making, as always, a leg)
> What would be the EU importing restrictions? As long as it contains
> minimum 85 % of the varietal ... ?
> Or am I being unbelievably dense?
>
> Cheers
>
> Nils Gsutaf
^^^^^^^ ????????? Too much good stuff, Nils ;-)))

Nils, I know that NZ has *problems* exporting dessert wines to the EU.

It is something to do with what may and may not be written on labels.

The use of the expressions "Table Wine" and "Dessert Wine" are forbidden,
and in addition there exist "technical" [read "trade"] barriers which
prevent the export of many NZ and Australian dessert wines into the EU.

Trying to get existing treaties altered is a long and tedious process.

--

st.helier

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:02:12 +1300, "st.helier"
> wrote:

>"Lawrence Leichtman" asked of the group.....
>
>> Anyone had positive experiences with NZ Rieslings.
>> If so which ones do you like?
>
>Lawrence, NZ Riesling covers the whole gambit, from bone dry, right through
>to botrytised sweeties.
>
>As usual, the biggest problem is sourcing anything of real quality -
>because, most producers exporting Riesling send only wines produced in
>*reasonable* volumes.
>
>So, two that are worth a look are the Villa Maria Private Bin Riesling and
>the Stoneleigh Marlborough Riesling which you should find widely stocked;
>together with Shingle Peak Marlborough Riesling - if you find these from
>2000-2002 they should show well.
>
>IMNSHO the best NZ Riesling is the Pegasus Bay "Aria" from Waipara,
>Canterbury - this is a late harvest, slightly lower alcohol beauty - if
>anyone can find one, grab it. Alas, it is scarce as rocking-horse sh*t.
>
Yes this is probably one of the best rieslings I have ever tasted!

>Villa Maria have made a succession of very fine botrytised Rieslings under
>their Reserve label - I know that NZ has trouble conforming to EU importing
>restrictions so it is not available in the UK - I simply don't know if it
>available elsewhere.
>
>As a rule, *most* NZ Riesling is made in a medium/dry style, and generally
>they are reasonable examples of a cool-climate wine. I know that several
>wineries make both a dry and medium style - read the label - good luck
>obtaining what is available - some will be nicely expressive of the variety,
>some will be *a bit ordinary*.
>
>Notwithstanding the fact that many NZ wineries make some excellent Riesling,
>because of that exported/availability factor, I am afraid you will not be
>able to see how well Riesling does in NZ.
>
>Over the years, I have had a couple which were well developed in that dry
>Alsatian style, but never (not one) that could be mistaken for that floral
>delicacy from Mosel.
>
>Good luck - report your findings

Daisy

Carthage demands an explanation for this insolence!

We had our NZ Rielsing tasting and the Cloudy Bay late Harvest that was
suggested I brought and this was our top wine for the evening though, in
fact, it wasn't a Riesling. This one had truffles in the nose to me and
would rate as the best late harvest Sauvignon I've ever had.A/A- Top
wines were from Cloudy Bay two bottlings both B+ , Felton Road 2004
Central Otego Dry Riesling, very minerally with almost tangerine or
manderine fruit in nose and finish.A- Seresin Estate, nice even so
Petrol in the nose and very much a German style Riesling of the Mosel
type.B+ Peregrine Rastaburn had odd fruits in the nose, Kiwi and Mango,
finished way too sweet for me but popular. Dissapointments were few but
two Kim Crawford bottlings came off hot and hard edged and not at all
pleasant to my tastesB-/C+ for both bottlings. Forrest estate which had
some very odd spices in the nose I don't associate with Rielsing maybe
curry powder and ginger, actually had a flabby mouthfeel and weak
finish. C

In article >,
Daisy > wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:02:12 +1300, "st.helier"
> > wrote:
>
> >"Lawrence Leichtman" asked of the group.....
> >
> >> Anyone had positive experiences with NZ Rieslings.
> >> If so which ones do you like?
> >
> >Lawrence, NZ Riesling covers the whole gambit, from bone dry, right through
> >to botrytised sweeties.
> >
> >As usual, the biggest problem is sourcing anything of real quality -
> >because, most producers exporting Riesling send only wines produced in
> >*reasonable* volumes.
> >
> >So, two that are worth a look are the Villa Maria Private Bin Riesling and
> >the Stoneleigh Marlborough Riesling which you should find widely stocked;
> >together with Shingle Peak Marlborough Riesling - if you find these from
> >2000-2002 they should show well.
> >
> >IMNSHO the best NZ Riesling is the Pegasus Bay "Aria" from Waipara,
> >Canterbury - this is a late harvest, slightly lower alcohol beauty - if
> >anyone can find one, grab it. Alas, it is scarce as rocking-horse sh*t.
> >
> Yes this is probably one of the best rieslings I have ever tasted!
>
> >Villa Maria have made a succession of very fine botrytised Rieslings under
> >their Reserve label - I know that NZ has trouble conforming to EU importing
> >restrictions so it is not available in the UK - I simply don't know if it
> >available elsewhere.
> >
> >As a rule, *most* NZ Riesling is made in a medium/dry style, and generally
> >they are reasonable examples of a cool-climate wine. I know that several
> >wineries make both a dry and medium style - read the label - good luck
> >obtaining what is available - some will be nicely expressive of the variety,
> >some will be *a bit ordinary*.
> >
> >Notwithstanding the fact that many NZ wineries make some excellent Riesling,
> >because of that exported/availability factor, I am afraid you will not be
> >able to see how well Riesling does in NZ.
> >
> >Over the years, I have had a couple which were well developed in that dry
> >Alsatian style, but never (not one) that could be mistaken for that floral
> >delicacy from Mosel.
> >
> >Good luck - report your findings
>
> Daisy
>
> Carthage demands an explanation for this insolence!