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What should i get?
I'm new to the wine world and have begun my journey with an afiniti for
merlot wines. If you can suggest another good red I'm open but i like teh smoothness of the merlots. I'm wondering if you could suggest the best options under 30$ that I can get my hands on in the GTA??? any help would be appreciated. |
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GTA?
DUOA MBACT! STFOB! Greater Toronto Area? Dumb Use Of Abbreviations Must Be A Canadian Thing! Sort This Fellow Out Bill [Spohn] |
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GTA?
DUOA MBACT! STFOB! Greater Toronto Area? Dumb Use Of Abbreviations Must Be A Canadian Thing! Sort This Fellow Out Bill [Spohn] |
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"st.helier" > wrote in message news:1096605497.722250@ftpsrv1... > GTA? > DUOA > MBACT! > STFOB! Wtf is that all about. IATC. (I am totally clueless) Ron Lel > > > Greater Toronto Area? > Dumb Use Of Abbreviations > Must Be A Canadian Thing! > Sort This Fellow Out Bill [Spohn] > |
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 16:37:41 +1200, "st.helier"
> wrote: >GTA? Greater Toronto Area. The joke in "The Rest of Canada" is that Toronto regards itself as "The Centre of the Universe". Robbie shows us why... :-) Robbie, even the smallest LCBO will have a decent selection of Aussie Shiraz, and most will be well under $20. As somebody else suggest, they tend to exhibit that smoothness quality you like. If you pick an LCBO store with a Vintages section, try asking the product consultant for advice. I've found them to be very knowledgeable and very willing to help. I've noticed that at the store I frequent people will grab a cart and then follow the consultant around picking up a few bottles of whatever he recommends. -- Remove preceding and trailing X from username for replies (Sorry, but I'm SICK of spam...) |
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"Robbienorth" > wrote in message m>...
> I'm new to the wine world and have begun my journey with an afiniti for > merlot wines. If you can suggest another good red I'm open but i like teh > smoothness of the merlots. > I'm wondering if you could suggest the best options under 30$ that I can > get my hands on in the GTA??? > any help would be appreciated. Dolcetto is a very smooth, appealing wine similar in body to Merlot but with a more appealing palate. Made in Piedmont, Italy. Prices range from about $10 to $25. Dolcetto has 7 sub-varieties, the commonest of which are d'Asti and d'Alba. The biggest and boldest is the Dolcetto di Dogliani, fine examples of which are made by Chionetti. http://www.internationalrecipesonlin...ionary.pl?2308 |
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Greetings Robbie;
If you have a car I strongly suggest you take a few weekends from the GTA to cruise the Niagara Wine Route and go taste the Canadian Merlots available right under your nose from dozens of Niagara wineries. You'll learn a lot and have a great time to boot. -- Regards Chuck So much wine; So little time! To reply, delete NOSPAM from return address "Robbienorth" > wrote in message ... > I'm new to the wine world and have begun my journey with an afiniti for > merlot wines. If you can suggest another good red I'm open but i like teh > smoothness of the merlots. > I'm wondering if you could suggest the best options under 30$ that I can > get my hands on in the GTA??? > any help would be appreciated. > > |
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In article <1096605497.722250@ftpsrv1>, says...
> >GTA? >DUOA >MBACT! >STFOB! >Greater Toronto Area? >Dumb Use Of Abbreviations >Must Be A Canadian Thing! >Sort This Fellow Out Bill [Spohn] Thanks for the clarification. I assumed that it was a geographical reference and saw the CA (as in Canada, my neighbor to the North, not CA the state that a lot of my wines come from), but did not make the connection. Since I have no idea of what wines are imported to GTA, my suggestions may have been way, way off base. Sorry for that. Hunt |
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Hunt wrote: > In article >, > says ... >> >>Greetings Robbie; >>If you have a car I strongly suggest you take a few weekends from the GTA >>to cruise the Niagara Wine Route and go taste the Canadian Merlots >>available >>right under your nose from dozens of Niagara wineries. You'll learn a lot >>and have a great time to boot. >>-- >>Regards >>Chuck >>So much wine; So little time! >> >>To reply, delete NOSPAM from return address >> >>"Robbienorth" > wrote in message om... >>> I'm new to the wine world and have begun my journey with an afiniti >>> for >>> merlot wines. If you can suggest another good red I'm open but i like >>> teh smoothness of the merlots. >>> I'm wondering if you could suggest the best options under 30$ that I >>> can >>> get my hands on in the GTA??? >>> any help would be appreciated. > > Merlot from Niagra? This comes as a complete surprise to me. Thanks for > the rec. I've done quite a few tastings that were, at least co-sponsored, > by producers/distributors in the NY and Canadian area, but all they have > ever poured were "ice-wines," Rieslings and quite a few hybrids. Maybe > they just don't bring the "good stuff" south. Also, these tastings were > all in FL, and maybe their offerings were to fill that perceived market. > I'm surprised that they didn't completely open their portfolios. Live - > and learn. > > Thanks, > Hunt |
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K, i know where I am, I'm in toronto, and we are the center of Canada.
Anyone in the GTA who would be able to help me with a local reference would know what I'm talking about. If your from Newfieland or anywhere else less important than just disregard this post. How sad are you really? i just wanted some advice on wines in a wine newsgrp. If i wanted anything from you guys who are so crititcal i woulda posted in the 'idiot responses to genuine questions grp.' To those who answered me with a real answer thank you.. to all others.. bite me... RC "Robbienorth" > wrote in message ... > I'm new to the wine world and have begun my journey with an afiniti for > merlot wines. If you can suggest another good red I'm open but i like teh > smoothness of the merlots. > I'm wondering if you could suggest the best options under 30$ that I can > get my hands on in the GTA??? > any help would be appreciated. > |
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Salut/Hi Robbienorth,
le/on Fri, 1 Oct 2004 16:17:23 -0400, tu disais/you said:- >K, i know where I am, I'm in toronto, and we are the center of Canada. >Anyone in the GTA who would be able to help me with a local reference would ' > To those who answered me with a real answer thank you.. to all others.. >bite me... No, I'll just plonk you for being an aggressive little twerp with no idea of what it means to post to an international newsgroup. Talk about parochial!! Don't bother to reply. I won't read it. -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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Your prescriptions in Canada are almost 1/2 of what ours are in the USA.
Therefore I suggest you stop buying wine immediately. Instead buy Prozac...lots of it. It might help with you real issue. Skip the wine...don't pass go...don't collect allowance...go get Prozac. "Robbienorth" > wrote in message ... > K, i know where I am, I'm in toronto, and we are the center of Canada. > Anyone in the GTA who would be able to help me with a local reference > would know what I'm talking about. > If your from Newfieland or anywhere else less important than just > disregard this post. How sad are you really? i just wanted some advice on > wines in a wine newsgrp. If i wanted anything from you guys who are so > crititcal i woulda posted in the 'idiot responses to genuine questions > grp.' > To those who answered me with a real answer thank you.. to all others.. > bite me... > > RC > > > "Robbienorth" > wrote in message > ... >> I'm new to the wine world and have begun my journey with an afiniti for >> merlot wines. If you can suggest another good red I'm open but i like teh >> smoothness of the merlots. >> I'm wondering if you could suggest the best options under 30$ that I can >> get my hands on in the GTA??? >> any help would be appreciated. >> > > |
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On 1 Oct 2004 15:00:28 GMT, (Hunt) wrote:
>For my education, how common are California Zins and Syrahs in Canada, through >LCBO, which is, I assume, the national distribution/sales arm of Canada's >version of ATF, or similar? In US, some states have stores that have a limited >list of wines for sale, so state controlled liquor stores all have about the >same line up. Is this true in CA (the country)? I've noticed some subscribers, >primarily in the BC area, mentioning that they do not have access to some of >the wines talked about in the group. Are there different levels of stores, as >you mentioned "Vintages section?" First off, the LCBO is the provincial, not national. There are similar liquor commissions in other provinces. But since Ontario has about 40% on Canada's population, it is the biggest. They claim to be the biggest distributor of wine and liquor in the world. So the rest of this is applicable to Ontario only. Vintages is a "program" they run of twice monthly limited release items, as opposed to their regular listing items. In general the Vintages products tend to be the higher priced items, although there are plenty of fine/expensive wines in the regular listings and lots of low priced Vintages items too. There are many "levels" of stores. I live near Kitchener/Waterloo, which are twin cities of about 250,000 people. There are a couple large stores that carry a large selection of "regular listing" items, and have pretty good Vintages sections. There are also a lot of smaller stores that carry a more limited selection of products. While the smaller stores don't stock as much, they will order in anything in the catalog without any minimum or extra charge. Vintages has a good website at www.vintages.com. There is also the main LCBO site at www.lcbo.com. Remember that prices are in Canadian dollars. Back to your intial question, there are plenty of California Zins available. In the Syrah/Shiraz market the Aussies rule in terms of product selection. But Vintages did a feature on California Syrah/Shiraz in one of the summer releases. I hope that helps. -- Remove preceding and trailing X from username for replies (Sorry, but I'm SICK of spam...) |
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"Robbienorth" wrote in message.....
> K, i know where I am, I'm in toronto, and we are the center of Canada. > Anyone in the GTA who would be able to help me with a local reference > would know what I'm talking about. And I am in Whangaparaoa, New Zealand My brother (who lurks here) is in Wooloomooloo, Australia My Cousin (who doesn't even drink wine and doesn't lurk) lives in Mbabane, Swaziland And my Great Aunt Ethel in buried in Reykjavik, Iceland. How on earth are they supposed to know what you are referring to, huh? And what about our regular, *polite* contributors in France or Austria or Norway or the UK? You might be in the centre of Canada, but you are so far up your own RC that you are in a different universe. Go form your own newsgroup alt.moronic.abbreviations - and learn some bloody manners. |
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"Robbienorth" wrote in message.....
> K, i know where I am, I'm in toronto, and we are the center of Canada. > Anyone in the GTA who would be able to help me with a local reference > would know what I'm talking about. And I am in Whangaparaoa, New Zealand My brother (who lurks here) is in Wooloomooloo, Australia My Cousin (who doesn't even drink wine and doesn't lurk) lives in Mbabane, Swaziland And my Great Aunt Ethel in buried in Reykjavik, Iceland. How on earth are they supposed to know what you are referring to, huh? And what about our regular, *polite* contributors in France or Austria or Norway or the UK? You might be in the centre of Canada, but you are so far up your own RC that you are in a different universe. Go form your own newsgroup alt.moronic.abbreviations - and learn some bloody manners. |
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Salut/Hi st.helier,
Splendid stuff, Milord. le/on Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:16:42 +1200, tu disais/you said:- >And I am in Whangaparaoa, New Zealand Are you? I thought that you were in Pukekohe. >My brother (who lurks here) is in Wooloomooloo, Australia And mine is in Leatherhead UK. >My Cousin (who doesn't even drink wine and doesn't lurk) lives in Mbabane, >Swaziland Ah, I've got one in Croatia >And my Great Aunt Ethel in buried in Reykjavik, Iceland. Good 'eavens, have you got a Great Aunt Ethel too? So have I. But she's not buried in Reykjavic, she's in Hampstead, But I bet you haven't got one grandfather buried in Balaton-Berény and the other at Ypres. >Go form your own newsgroup alt.moronic.abbreviations - and learn some >bloody manners. Like it, like it, chortle. -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 16:17:23 -0400, "Robbienorth"
> wrote: >K, i know where I am, I'm in toronto, and we are the center of Canada. >Anyone in the GTA who would be able to help me with a local reference would >know what I'm talking about. Toronto suffers from this notion that it is the center of the country, even though it is about 1000km off to the south-east. It has a city rag that refers to itself as Canada's national newspaper. It refers to those little pepperings of snow that it sometimes gets as blizzards. ;-) Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail |
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In article >, xal.
says... > >On 1 Oct 2004 15:00:28 GMT, (Hunt) wrote: > >>For my education, how common are California Zins and Syrahs in Canada, through >>LCBO, which is, I assume, the national distribution/sales arm of Canada's >>version of ATF, or similar? In US, some states have stores that have a limited >>list of wines for sale, so state controlled liquor stores all have about the >>same line up. Is this true in CA (the country)? I've noticed some subscribers, >>primarily in the BC area, mentioning that they do not have access to some of >>the wines talked about in the group. Are there different levels of stores, as >>you mentioned "Vintages section?" > >First off, the LCBO is the provincial, not national. There are >similar liquor commissions in other provinces. But since Ontario has >about 40% on Canada's population, it is the biggest. They claim to be >the biggest distributor of wine and liquor in the world. So the rest >of this is applicable to Ontario only. > >Vintages is a "program" they run of twice monthly limited release >items, as opposed to their regular listing items. In general the >Vintages products tend to be the higher priced items, although there >are plenty of fine/expensive wines in the regular listings and lots of >low priced Vintages items too. > >There are many "levels" of stores. I live near Kitchener/Waterloo, >which are twin cities of about 250,000 people. There are a couple >large stores that carry a large selection of "regular listing" items, >and have pretty good Vintages sections. There are also a lot of >smaller stores that carry a more limited selection of products. While >the smaller stores don't stock as much, they will order in anything in >the catalog without any minimum or extra charge. > >Vintages has a good website at www.vintages.com. There is also the >main LCBO site at www.lcbo.com. Remember that prices are in Canadian >dollars. > >Back to your intial question, there are plenty of California Zins >available. In the Syrah/Shiraz market the Aussies rule in terms of >product selection. But Vintages did a feature on California >Syrah/Shiraz in one of the summer releases. > >I hope that helps. > >-- Yes it does, very much. Thank you for the edification. I had seen the term LCBO used in several posts, and had formed a few ideas - some correct, but most wrong. I appreciate the time that you took to make this all very clear for me. Hunt |
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In article >, xal.
says... > >On 1 Oct 2004 15:00:28 GMT, (Hunt) wrote: > >>For my education, how common are California Zins and Syrahs in Canada, through >>LCBO, which is, I assume, the national distribution/sales arm of Canada's >>version of ATF, or similar? In US, some states have stores that have a limited >>list of wines for sale, so state controlled liquor stores all have about the >>same line up. Is this true in CA (the country)? I've noticed some subscribers, >>primarily in the BC area, mentioning that they do not have access to some of >>the wines talked about in the group. Are there different levels of stores, as >>you mentioned "Vintages section?" > >First off, the LCBO is the provincial, not national. There are >similar liquor commissions in other provinces. But since Ontario has >about 40% on Canada's population, it is the biggest. They claim to be >the biggest distributor of wine and liquor in the world. So the rest >of this is applicable to Ontario only. > >Vintages is a "program" they run of twice monthly limited release >items, as opposed to their regular listing items. In general the >Vintages products tend to be the higher priced items, although there >are plenty of fine/expensive wines in the regular listings and lots of >low priced Vintages items too. > >There are many "levels" of stores. I live near Kitchener/Waterloo, >which are twin cities of about 250,000 people. There are a couple >large stores that carry a large selection of "regular listing" items, >and have pretty good Vintages sections. There are also a lot of >smaller stores that carry a more limited selection of products. While >the smaller stores don't stock as much, they will order in anything in >the catalog without any minimum or extra charge. > >Vintages has a good website at www.vintages.com. There is also the >main LCBO site at www.lcbo.com. Remember that prices are in Canadian >dollars. > >Back to your intial question, there are plenty of California Zins >available. In the Syrah/Shiraz market the Aussies rule in terms of >product selection. But Vintages did a feature on California >Syrah/Shiraz in one of the summer releases. > >I hope that helps. > >-- Yes it does, very much. Thank you for the edification. I had seen the term LCBO used in several posts, and had formed a few ideas - some correct, but most wrong. I appreciate the time that you took to make this all very clear for me. Hunt |
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"Ian Hoare" wrote in message........
> > >And I am in Whangaparaoa, New Zealand > > Are you? I thought that you were in Pukekohe. I was when you, Jacquie and "Lipton the Learned" visited; but a wee spot of ill health forced a "reappraisal" and we are now about 30km north of metrop Auckland in a coastal settlement about 1min 33secs walk from the waters edge of the South Pacific. Why don't you visit sometime? > And mine is in Leatherhead UK. Don't you just love English place names? > > >My Cousin (who doesn't even drink wine and doesn't lurk) lives in > > Mbabane, Swaziland This is actually true - he is the *strange* one, and Africa is a good place for him!!!! > Ah, I've got one in Croatia > Hundreds of those buggers down here - Croats and Serbs and Dalmatians - they were the true pioneers of the NZ industry - although some of that fortified *plonk* they produced made excellent paint stripper!!! > But I bet you haven't got one grandfather buried in Balaton-Berény > and the other at Ypres. No, you are correct - my sister [family genealogist] has traced antecedents back to Southern Ireland [de Burgh - Norman conqueror of some note - thence rapists and pillagers nr Limerick] - and being a feisty bunch, itching for a bit of biffo, there has been much [antipodean] ancestral blood spilled during the Boer War, WW1 and WW2 - but I do believe they all came home (although some minus bits of body parts!) My father, the late Major-General Sir Kenneth Archibald o'Bourke, 9th Earl of Hokianga, batman to the [then] Lord Beaverbrook served in Italy, where he, single handed, attempted to solve the little known Chianti Crisis of '43. I credit him with sending me down this "vinous road-to-ruin" with a raffia wrapped rough red when I was four! He was trying to teach me a lesson - however, I loved the stuff, and much to his chagrin, he was forced to share any future openings , while we crowded around the wireless, listening to battles of the rugby kind in far off places at ungodly hours. Oh, those were the days !!!!! -- st.helier [the somewhat sozzled !] |
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> >And I am in Whangaparaoa, New Zealand
Ah - presumably the world famous institute for dipsomaniacs....;-) Where is that relative to Waipukerau (Hawke's Bay)? Had a nanny from there once..... Never been to NZ but want to come down and visit the Pukeiti Rhododendron Trust one of these years. >Hundreds of those buggers down here - Croats and Serbs and Dalmatians - Yeah those Dalmatian buggers really whip you with their tails when they aren't chasing fire trucks. |
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"Bill Spohn" wrote in message
> > Ah - presumably the world famous institute for dipsomaniacs....;-) We have a saying - "World Famous in New Zealand" ! > > Where is that relative to Waipukurau (Hawke's Bay)? > ^ Six hours drive south and east of Auckland City: Hawkes Bay = Wine Country !!!!! > Had a nanny from there once..... "Had" in a biblical sense? "you lucky so-and-so!!" > > Never been to NZ but want to come down and visit the > Pukeiti Rhododendron Trust one of these years. > Hey, pack a few things (including Mrs. Legal Eagle!) Vancouver to Hawaii to Auckland via Air Canada is an easy 15/16 hour jaunt, and allow 7/10 days in NZ so I could take you on a wine and wodo wander! Pukeiti is an absolutely fascinating place; on the side of a volcano; valleys, streams, and waterfalls; sufficient species and hybrids of rhodos to make your eyes water; native birdlife almost tame - I have been a frequent visitor for nearly twenty years. Last week in October is Rhododendron Festival week in New Plymouth. Next year perhaps! -- st.helier |
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>Hey, pack a few things (including Mrs. Legal Eagle!) Vancouver to Hawaii to
>Auckland via Air Canada is an easy 15/16 hour jaunt, and allow 7/10 days in >NZ so I could take you on a wine and wodo wander! Don't tempt me! SWMBO would be booking tickets if she heard of this! Maybe one of these days, though! |
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>Pukeiti is an absolutely fascinating place; on the side of a volcano;
>valleys, streams, and waterfalls; sufficient species and hybrids of rhodos >to make your eyes water; native birdlife almost tame - I have been a >frequent visitor for nearly twenty years. I understand that the trout fishery in NZ is second to none. Bi!! |
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