Hello,

It is time for my monthly stupid info request.

Has anyone tried the New Eden Shiraz 2002 or have any info?

The winery doesn't even appear in Halliday (Australian wine darling).
I've never heard of it.

It is however, after googling, in the Eden Valley:
http://www.winediva.com.au/regions/eden-valley.asp

A region of the Barossa.

Supposedly retails for $18AU, and it being flogged off by one or two
large wine retailers by the truckload.


Thanks heaps as usual,

Mat.

On 13/9/04 10:38 AM, in article , "Mat"
<Ask@me> wrote:


> Has anyone tried the New Eden Shiraz 2002 or have any info?
>
> The winery doesn't even appear in Halliday (Australian wine darling).
> I've never heard of it.

It's possibly a Cellarmaster wine club label. New Eden winemaker Nick
Badrice also produces wine for Avon Brae (similar situation, not in St James
but apparently available around the traps).

wn

Whingeing Ninja wrote:
> On 13/9/04 10:38 AM, in article , "Mat"
> <Ask@me> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Has anyone tried the New Eden Shiraz 2002 or have any info?
>>
>>The winery doesn't even appear in Halliday (Australian wine darling).
>>I've never heard of it.
>
>
> It's possibly a Cellarmaster wine club label. New Eden winemaker Nick
> Badrice also produces wine for Avon Brae (similar situation, not in St James
> but apparently available around the traps).
>
> wn
>

Haha! Yes it is. No wonder I couldn't find it.

I was looking through a cellarmaster offer. I know, I know, those wine
offers are normally duds, but this was better than usual value (it is
often cheaper and quicker just to go down to the cheapest wine retailer
and buy the selection yourself).

And the New Eden Shiraz was on 1/2 price with any other buy.

Perhaps that is why, it is a cellarmaster custom made.

I'm now thinking twice about it.


Thanks for the info.

On 13/9/04 10:25 PM, in article , "Mat"
<Ask@me> wrote:


>>> Has anyone tried the New Eden Shiraz 2002 or have any info?
>>>
>>> The winery doesn't even appear in Halliday (Australian wine darling).
>>> I've never heard of it.
>>
>>
>> It's possibly a Cellarmaster wine club label. New Eden winemaker Nick
>> Badrice also produces wine for Avon Brae (similar situation, not in St James
>> but apparently available around the traps).
>>
>> wn
>>
>
> Haha! Yes it is. No wonder I couldn't find it.
>
> I was looking through a cellarmaster offer. I know, I know, those wine
> offers are normally duds,

Some but not all... although picking the wheat from the chaff is the real
trick... Cellarmaster has also been rather astute at picking up
semi-dormant, name labels and relaunching them... The once proud Tassie
label Heemskerk springs to mind (speaking out of turn here a bit, haven't
tried the new range).

> I'm now thinking twice about it.

I'm pretty sure Cellarmaster run tastings during the year...might be a good
excuse to gauge the quality one way or the other.

wn

Whingeing Ninja wrote:

>>I was looking through a cellarmaster offer. I know, I know, those wine
>>offers are normally duds,
>
>
> Some but not all... although picking the wheat from the chaff is the real
> trick... Cellarmaster has also been rather astute at picking up
> semi-dormant, name labels and relaunching them... The once proud Tassie
> label Heemskerk springs to mind (speaking out of turn here a bit, haven't
> tried the new range).
>

Yep, and a lot of the fun.

Do you mean they buy out strugglers (but good quality) and sell them
off? Or buy out strugglers (but bad quality) and sell them off?

Or change the label to something else and sell them off?


>>I'm now thinking twice about it.
>
>
> I'm pretty sure Cellarmaster run tastings during the year...might be a good
> excuse to gauge the quality one way or the other.
>

I might share the cost and risk with a friend or two. Or just go down to
Dan's and spend the equivalent cas$h on some others. Be fun either way.



> wn
>

Thanks for the info BTW Mr. Ninja, or is it just Whingeing? :-)

On 14/9/04 2:30 PM, in article , "Mat"
<Ask@me> wrote:

> Yep, and a lot of the fun.

Absolutely
>
> Do you mean they buy out strugglers (but good quality) and sell them
> off? Or buy out strugglers (but bad quality) and sell them off?
>
> Or change the label to something else and sell them off?
>
The Heemskerk buyout is probably a good example. AFAIK, the label had been
acquired by Pipers Brook Vineyard (at that stage PBV was still controlled by
Andrew Pirie) and after holding onto it for a while (but not producing any
wine under the label) it was then sold to Cellarmaster. To be fair to
Cellarmaster, current Heemskerk wine still uses cool climate Tasmanian
fruit, altho' it's now made interstate.

One of the reasons the Heemskerk label retained a slight cachet is because
in the mid-seventies (IIRC) their cabernet was the first Tassie wine to make
an impact at mainland wine shows. Winemaker Graham Wiltshire, a partner in
Heemskerk, was also responsible for the original Jansz sparkler (with some
help from the Champagne house Louis Roederer). Jansz is now owned by
Yalumba.

> I might share the cost and risk with a friend or two. Or just go down to
> Dan's and spend the equivalent cas$h on some others. Be fun either way.
>
This is a good point. A small, informal buying group of three or so like
minded wine drinkers can really help you access a variety of wines.

> Thanks for the info BTW Mr. Ninja, or is it just Whingeing? :-)

Depends on what I'm drinking ;-)

wn

On 14/9/04 2:30 PM, in article , "Mat"
<Ask@me> wrote:

> Yep, and a lot of the fun.

Absolutely
>
> Do you mean they buy out strugglers (but good quality) and sell them
> off? Or buy out strugglers (but bad quality) and sell them off?
>
> Or change the label to something else and sell them off?
>
The Heemskerk buyout is probably a good example. AFAIK, the label had been
acquired by Pipers Brook Vineyard (at that stage PBV was still controlled by
Andrew Pirie) and after holding onto it for a while (but not producing any
wine under the label) it was then sold to Cellarmaster. To be fair to
Cellarmaster, current Heemskerk wine still uses cool climate Tasmanian
fruit, altho' it's now made interstate.

One of the reasons the Heemskerk label retained a slight cachet is because
in the mid-seventies (IIRC) their cabernet was the first Tassie wine to make
an impact at mainland wine shows. Winemaker Graham Wiltshire, a partner in
Heemskerk, was also responsible for the original Jansz sparkler (with some
help from the Champagne house Louis Roederer). Jansz is now owned by
Yalumba.

> I might share the cost and risk with a friend or two. Or just go down to
> Dan's and spend the equivalent cas$h on some others. Be fun either way.
>
This is a good point. A small, informal buying group of three or so like
minded wine drinkers can really help you access a variety of wines.

> Thanks for the info BTW Mr. Ninja, or is it just Whingeing? :-)

Depends on what I'm drinking ;-)

wn

Whingeing Ninja wrote:
> On 13/9/04 10:38 AM, in article , "Mat"
> <Ask@me> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Has anyone tried the New Eden Shiraz 2002 or have any info?
>>
>>The winery doesn't even appear in Halliday (Australian wine darling).
>>I've never heard of it.
>
>
> It's possibly a Cellarmaster wine club label. New Eden winemaker Nick
> Badrice also produces wine for Avon Brae (similar situation, not in St James
> but apparently available around the traps).
>
> wn
>

Haha! Yes it is. No wonder I couldn't find it.

I was looking through a cellarmaster offer. I know, I know, those wine
offers are normally duds, but this was better than usual value (it is
often cheaper and quicker just to go down to the cheapest wine retailer
and buy the selection yourself).

And the New Eden Shiraz was on 1/2 price with any other buy.

Perhaps that is why, it is a cellarmaster custom made.

I'm now thinking twice about it.


Thanks for the info.

On 13/9/04 10:38 AM, in article , "Mat"
<Ask@me> wrote:


> Has anyone tried the New Eden Shiraz 2002 or have any info?
>
> The winery doesn't even appear in Halliday (Australian wine darling).
> I've never heard of it.

It's possibly a Cellarmaster wine club label. New Eden winemaker Nick
Badrice also produces wine for Avon Brae (similar situation, not in St James
but apparently available around the traps).

wn