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Hi folks,
I have been a silly billy. There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July last) and I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, only to find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. We're going to be in the area from the 5th to the 10th Nov. We want to combine sightseeing and wine visiting, and would like to visit some half a dozen wineries (with trips fixed up in advance as much as possible). My shortlist (for no particular reasons) would include Domaine Drouhin, Argyle and Ponzi. If you have advice for further visits - I DID keep Eddie Carter's elliptical suggestions:- >just got back from willamette myself - i ddint see anyone mention >Adelsheim - this guy, after dick erath, is the godfather of oregon >pinot, and a very cool guy to chew the fat with all around. also of >note is witnes tree, bethel heights, raptor ridge, and of course, >domaine serene. or advice to keep away, I'd be most grateful. Sorry about my stoopidity. -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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Ian Hoare wrote:
> Hi folks, > > I have been a silly billy. > > There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July last) and > I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to > plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, only to > find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. Google Groups any help? http://tinyurl.com/6mkmu Dan |
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Salut/Hi Dan Gravell,
le/on Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:56:59 +0100, tu disais/you said:- >Ian Hoare wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I have been a silly billy. >> >> There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July last) and >> I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to >> plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, only to >> find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. > >Google Groups any help? http://tinyurl.com/6mkmu Grin..... piling Ossa on Pelion? In fact, as I use an _offline_ reader, just going online to collect and send messages, it never occurs to me to use it. Thanks, and when I next go online, I'll have a look at it and grab the info therein. -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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Salut/Hi Dan Gravell,
le/on Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:56:59 +0100, tu disais/you said:- >Ian Hoare wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I have been a silly billy. >> >> There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July last) and >> I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to >> plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, only to >> find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. > >Google Groups any help? http://tinyurl.com/6mkmu Grin..... piling Ossa on Pelion? In fact, as I use an _offline_ reader, just going online to collect and send messages, it never occurs to me to use it. Thanks, and when I next go online, I'll have a look at it and grab the info therein. -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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Highly suggest Archery Summit or Domaine Serene.
"Ian Hoare" > wrote in message ... > Hi folks, > > I have been a silly billy. > > There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July last) > and > I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to > plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, only to > find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. > > We're going to be in the area from the 5th to the 10th Nov. We want to > combine sightseeing and wine visiting, and would like to visit some half a > dozen wineries (with trips fixed up in advance as much as possible). > > My shortlist (for no particular reasons) would include Domaine Drouhin, > Argyle and Ponzi. If you have advice for further visits - I DID keep Eddie > Carter's elliptical suggestions:- > >>just got back from willamette myself - i ddint see anyone mention >>Adelsheim - this guy, after dick erath, is the godfather of oregon >>pinot, and a very cool guy to chew the fat with all around. also of >>note is witnes tree, bethel heights, raptor ridge, and of course, >>domaine serene. > > or advice to keep away, I'd be most grateful. > > Sorry about my stoopidity. > > > -- > All the Best > Ian Hoare > http://www.souvigne.com > mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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Salut/Hi Richard Neidich,
le/on Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:59:02 GMT, tu disais/you said:- >"Ian Hoare" > wrote in message .. . >> I have been a silly billy. >> >> There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July last) >> My shortlist (for no particular reasons) would include Domaine Drouhin, >> Argyle and Ponzi. >> or advice to keep away, I'd be most grateful. >Highly suggest Archery Summit or Domaine Serene. Thanks very much Dick, and to the others who've replied both here and privately. I'll not be answering each and every one of you, to keep personal and repetitive posting down to a minimum. After I've got all advice that's coming, I'll assemble a revised list (bye-bye Ponzi) and then contact each of the wineries to ask if they would accept a visit in the period 5th to 7th for the northern ones and 7th to 10th for the southern ones explaining who I am and so on. That may open doors to places that some of you weren't able to visit. I'll also give them a chance to veto any particular date. So, plans are afoot! -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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Ian Hoare wrote:
> After I've got all advice that's coming, I'll assemble a revised list > (bye-bye Ponzi) and then contact each of the wineries to ask if they would > accept a visit in the period 5th to 7th for the northern ones and 7th to > 10th for the southern ones explaining who I am and so on. That may open > doors to places that some of you weren't able to visit. I'll also give them > a chance to veto any particular date. So, plans are afoot! > You might try this link Ian. http://www.oregonwines.com/ |
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Salut/Hi Bill Loftin,
le/on Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:22:45 GMT, tu disais/you said:- >> After I've got all advice that's coming, I'll assemble a revised list >> (bye-bye Ponzi) and then contact each of the wineries to ask if they would >> accept a visit in the period 5th to 7th for the northern ones and 7th to >> 10th for the southern ones explaining who I am and so on. That may open >> doors to places that some of you weren't able to visit. I'll also give them >> a chance to veto any particular date. So, plans are afoot! >> > >You might try this link Ian. > >http://www.oregonwines.com/ A special thanks to you, Bill. (and to Mark, for his http://www.winesnw.com link). Both of these are a veritable MINE of information, which I haven't begun to tap properly. I'll ask a supplementary, if I may, following up on information emailed to me. As I understand it, some Oregon winemakers use a lot of oak. Obviously they've the right to make their wines any way they like, and people react to that as their taste takes them. Equally, I'd like to taste good examples of all wine styles - obviously it would be lunatic not to taste Oregon Pinot Noir, but I feel it would equally idiotic NOT to taste any of the other grapes. By the same token, it would be a shame _only_ to taste wines made in a self consciously "burgundian" style, or in an equally self consciously "non-burgundian" style. So my question is, "Of the good wineries we've seen mentioned more than once (in no order whatsover) which use a LOT of oak, which a bit, which just a little?" Christom Dom. Serene WillaKenzie Panther Creek Lange Domaine Drouhin Rex Hill Chehalam Archery Summit JK Carriere Torii Mor Patricia Green Van Duzer Cameron Brooks (may be closed) And that will be my LAST question on this topic, I promise ;-))) -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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Salut/Hi Bill Loftin,
le/on Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:22:45 GMT, tu disais/you said:- >> After I've got all advice that's coming, I'll assemble a revised list >> (bye-bye Ponzi) and then contact each of the wineries to ask if they would >> accept a visit in the period 5th to 7th for the northern ones and 7th to >> 10th for the southern ones explaining who I am and so on. That may open >> doors to places that some of you weren't able to visit. I'll also give them >> a chance to veto any particular date. So, plans are afoot! >> > >You might try this link Ian. > >http://www.oregonwines.com/ A special thanks to you, Bill. (and to Mark, for his http://www.winesnw.com link). Both of these are a veritable MINE of information, which I haven't begun to tap properly. I'll ask a supplementary, if I may, following up on information emailed to me. As I understand it, some Oregon winemakers use a lot of oak. Obviously they've the right to make their wines any way they like, and people react to that as their taste takes them. Equally, I'd like to taste good examples of all wine styles - obviously it would be lunatic not to taste Oregon Pinot Noir, but I feel it would equally idiotic NOT to taste any of the other grapes. By the same token, it would be a shame _only_ to taste wines made in a self consciously "burgundian" style, or in an equally self consciously "non-burgundian" style. So my question is, "Of the good wineries we've seen mentioned more than once (in no order whatsover) which use a LOT of oak, which a bit, which just a little?" Christom Dom. Serene WillaKenzie Panther Creek Lange Domaine Drouhin Rex Hill Chehalam Archery Summit JK Carriere Torii Mor Patricia Green Van Duzer Cameron Brooks (may be closed) And that will be my LAST question on this topic, I promise ;-))) -- All the Best Ian Hoare http://www.souvigne.com mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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Ian Hoare wrote:
> After I've got all advice that's coming, I'll assemble a revised list > (bye-bye Ponzi) and then contact each of the wineries to ask if they would > accept a visit in the period 5th to 7th for the northern ones and 7th to > 10th for the southern ones explaining who I am and so on. That may open > doors to places that some of you weren't able to visit. I'll also give them > a chance to veto any particular date. So, plans are afoot! > You might try this link Ian. http://www.oregonwines.com/ |
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Ian Hoare wrote:
> We're going to be in the area from the 5th to the 10th Nov. We want to > combine sightseeing and wine visiting, and would like to visit some half a > dozen wineries (with trips fixed up in advance as much as possible). > > My shortlist (for no particular reasons) would include Domaine Drouhin, > Argyle and Ponzi. If you have advice for further visits - I DID keep Eddie > Carter's elliptical suggestions:- Ian, Regarding your stated choices: Argyle and Ponzi's wine bar are across the street from one another in Dundee. I'd recommend a stop at Ponzi for lunch in their "bistro," whereby you can also stop at their wine bar. I am not a great fan of Ponzi's wines, and I think that Argyle's wines are simple but pleasant, but both are fun places to stop. For touring the Willamette Valley, I think that it's useful to divide it into "North" and "South" regions. The North region is centered around Dundee and Newberg in Yamhill County and is easily accessible by car from Portland. My recommendations there would be Chehalem (excellent whites) and Torii Mor (Pinot Noir). Others have recommended Dom. Drouhin, Dom. Serene, WillaKenzie and Archery Summit but they've been closed when I was there over Xmas. The "South" region in my terminology is located close to Salem in the Eola Hills, still accessible from Portland by car, but a longer haul to be sure. There, I've been told to visit Cristom, Witness Tree, Bethel Heights and St. Innocent. And in between you have Panther Creek in McMinnville. For contact information, see: http://www.yamhillwine.com http://www.winesnw.com There are also wineries further south in the Willamette Valley, around Eugene and Corvallis, but AFAIK they aren't in the same league with those I've mentioned. Mark Lipton |
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Mark Lipton wrote:
> There are also wineries further south in the Willamette Valley, around > Eugene and Corvallis, but AFAIK they aren't in the same league with > those I've mentioned. That's the Umpqua Valley. I agree with your assessment. There are a couple that are okay (I think Henry Estate, if I remember right, is one). However, if you want a beautiful non-wine day trip starting from that area, take highway 138 from Roseburg to Crater Lake. Larry Coon University of California |
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Mark Lipton wrote:
> There are also wineries further south in the Willamette Valley, around > Eugene and Corvallis, but AFAIK they aren't in the same league with > those I've mentioned. That's the Umpqua Valley. I agree with your assessment. There are a couple that are okay (I think Henry Estate, if I remember right, is one). However, if you want a beautiful non-wine day trip starting from that area, take highway 138 from Roseburg to Crater Lake. Larry Coon University of California |
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Mark Lipton writes:
[snipping other fine comments] >There are also wineries further south in the Willamette Valley, around >Eugene and Corvallis, but AFAIK they aren't in the same league with >those I've mentioned. The Eugene-Corvallis area has a number of fine wineries which belong in the top echelon---namely, King Estate and Benton-Lane. Hinman Estate/Sylvan Ridge is very repectable if not stellar. However, I'll agree that pickings are slim in this area. The northern Willamette has more great wineries than anyone could possibly visit in a month! Another poster mentioned Southern Willamette as being in the Umpqua [River] Valley. This is incorrect. The Umpqua region is further south, near Roseburg. The warmer Umpqua region, which never made Pinot Noir of the character of northern Oregon, has lately discovered Syrah, and a number of wineries there are doing well with it. My favorite Umpqua Winery is Abecela Cellars. You should seek out their wines while in Oregon, even if you don't have the opportunity to visit there. They make a terrific Syrah, but the focus of the winery is on Spanish varietals---Tempranillo, Garnacha (Grenache), and the winery is one of only three in the USA I know of which makes a beautiful Albarino. [the others are Havens Cellars in Napa and Chrysalis Vyds. in Virginia]. ---Bob |
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![]() "Ian Hoare" > wrote in message ... > Hi folks, > > I have been a silly billy. > > There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July last) > and > I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to > plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, only to > find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. > > We're going to be in the area from the 5th to the 10th Nov. We want to > combine sightseeing and wine visiting, and would like to visit some half a > dozen wineries (with trips fixed up in advance as much as possible). >. Generally accepted wisdom is to eat at least one evening at Nick's in McMinnville. If you like Riesling try Brooks Winery--I haven't yet tried their Pinot Noir but a friend raves: http://www.northwest-wine.com/Brooks-Winery.html My favorite Pinot Noir winery is Cameron. |
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Brooks winery may not be open for a while, there is a report in the
local paper the owner/wine maker just had a massive heart attack and did not make it ;-( J~ cutecat wrote: > "Ian Hoare" > wrote in message > ... > >>Hi folks, >> >>I have been a silly billy. >> >>There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July last) >>and >>I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to >>plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, only to >>find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. >> >>We're going to be in the area from the 5th to the 10th Nov. We want to >>combine sightseeing and wine visiting, and would like to visit some half a >>dozen wineries (with trips fixed up in advance as much as possible). >>. > > Generally accepted wisdom is to eat at least one evening at Nick's in > McMinnville. > > If you like Riesling try Brooks Winery--I haven't yet tried their Pinot Noir > but a friend raves: http://www.northwest-wine.com/Brooks-Winery.html > > My favorite Pinot Noir winery is Cameron. > > |
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![]() "J~" > wrote in message . .. > Brooks winery may not be open for a while, there is a report in the local > paper the owner/wine maker just had a massive heart attack and did not > make it ;-( > Oh, no. Very sad for the owner's family and sad for us lovers of West Coast Riesling as well. We just polished off a bottle tonight and it was wonderful. |
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here is what release here in the paper....
OREGON WINEMAKER DIES Oregon winemaker Jimi Brooks passed away Friday after suffering a heart attack. The 38-year-old Portland native was winemaker for Maysara Estate Winery as well as his own brand, Brooks Wines, both in McMinnville. A memorial service will be Sunday, Sept. 12, at Hidden Springs Vineyard in Amity, according to The Oregonian. J~ wrote: > Brooks winery may not be open for a while, there is a report in the > local paper the owner/wine maker just had a massive heart attack and did > not make it ;-( > > J~ > > cutecat wrote: > >> "Ian Hoare" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I have been a silly billy. >>> >>> There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July >>> last) and >>> I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to >>> plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, >>> only to >>> find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. >>> >>> We're going to be in the area from the 5th to the 10th Nov. We want to >>> combine sightseeing and wine visiting, and would like to visit some >>> half a >>> dozen wineries (with trips fixed up in advance as much as possible). >>> . >> >> >> Generally accepted wisdom is to eat at least one evening at Nick's in >> McMinnville. >> >> If you like Riesling try Brooks Winery--I haven't yet tried their >> Pinot Noir but a friend raves: >> http://www.northwest-wine.com/Brooks-Winery.html >> >> My favorite Pinot Noir winery is Cameron. >> > |
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![]() "J~" > wrote in message . .. > Brooks winery may not be open for a while, there is a report in the local > paper the owner/wine maker just had a massive heart attack and did not > make it ;-( > Oh, no. Very sad for the owner's family and sad for us lovers of West Coast Riesling as well. We just polished off a bottle tonight and it was wonderful. |
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here is what release here in the paper....
OREGON WINEMAKER DIES Oregon winemaker Jimi Brooks passed away Friday after suffering a heart attack. The 38-year-old Portland native was winemaker for Maysara Estate Winery as well as his own brand, Brooks Wines, both in McMinnville. A memorial service will be Sunday, Sept. 12, at Hidden Springs Vineyard in Amity, according to The Oregonian. J~ wrote: > Brooks winery may not be open for a while, there is a report in the > local paper the owner/wine maker just had a massive heart attack and did > not make it ;-( > > J~ > > cutecat wrote: > >> "Ian Hoare" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I have been a silly billy. >>> >>> There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July >>> last) and >>> I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to >>> plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, >>> only to >>> find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. >>> >>> We're going to be in the area from the 5th to the 10th Nov. We want to >>> combine sightseeing and wine visiting, and would like to visit some >>> half a >>> dozen wineries (with trips fixed up in advance as much as possible). >>> . >> >> >> Generally accepted wisdom is to eat at least one evening at Nick's in >> McMinnville. >> >> If you like Riesling try Brooks Winery--I haven't yet tried their >> Pinot Noir but a friend raves: >> http://www.northwest-wine.com/Brooks-Winery.html >> >> My favorite Pinot Noir winery is Cameron. >> > |
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cutecat wrote:
> Generally accepted wisdom is to eat at least one evening at Nick's in > McMinnville. And Tina's in....wherever Tina's is (Newberg? Dundee?) > If you like Riesling try Brooks Winery--I haven't yet tried their Pinot Noir > but a friend raves: http://www.northwest-wine.com/Brooks-Winery.html > > My favorite Pinot Noir winery is Cameron. I'll put in a vote for Rex Hill. Larry Coon University of California |
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Larry Coon wrote:
> And Tina's in....wherever Tina's is (Newberg? > Dundee?) Follow-up: It's in Dundee, right on the main highway. <http://whatscookingamerica.net/PortlandOrReviews/Tinas.htm> Larry Coon University of California |
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Larry Coon wrote:
> And Tina's in....wherever Tina's is (Newberg? > Dundee?) Follow-up: It's in Dundee, right on the main highway. <http://whatscookingamerica.net/PortlandOrReviews/Tinas.htm> Larry Coon University of California |
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cutecat wrote:
> Generally accepted wisdom is to eat at least one evening at Nick's in > McMinnville. And Tina's in....wherever Tina's is (Newberg? Dundee?) > If you like Riesling try Brooks Winery--I haven't yet tried their Pinot Noir > but a friend raves: http://www.northwest-wine.com/Brooks-Winery.html > > My favorite Pinot Noir winery is Cameron. I'll put in a vote for Rex Hill. Larry Coon University of California |
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Ian Hoare wrote:
> We're going to be in the area from the 5th to the 10th Nov. We want to > combine sightseeing and wine visiting, and would like to visit some half a > dozen wineries (with trips fixed up in advance as much as possible). > > My shortlist (for no particular reasons) would include Domaine Drouhin, > Argyle and Ponzi. If you have advice for further visits - I DID keep Eddie > Carter's elliptical suggestions:- Ian, Regarding your stated choices: Argyle and Ponzi's wine bar are across the street from one another in Dundee. I'd recommend a stop at Ponzi for lunch in their "bistro," whereby you can also stop at their wine bar. I am not a great fan of Ponzi's wines, and I think that Argyle's wines are simple but pleasant, but both are fun places to stop. For touring the Willamette Valley, I think that it's useful to divide it into "North" and "South" regions. The North region is centered around Dundee and Newberg in Yamhill County and is easily accessible by car from Portland. My recommendations there would be Chehalem (excellent whites) and Torii Mor (Pinot Noir). Others have recommended Dom. Drouhin, Dom. Serene, WillaKenzie and Archery Summit but they've been closed when I was there over Xmas. The "South" region in my terminology is located close to Salem in the Eola Hills, still accessible from Portland by car, but a longer haul to be sure. There, I've been told to visit Cristom, Witness Tree, Bethel Heights and St. Innocent. And in between you have Panther Creek in McMinnville. For contact information, see: http://www.yamhillwine.com http://www.winesnw.com There are also wineries further south in the Willamette Valley, around Eugene and Corvallis, but AFAIK they aren't in the same league with those I've mentioned. Mark Lipton |
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Highly suggest Archery Summit or Domaine Serene.
"Ian Hoare" > wrote in message ... > Hi folks, > > I have been a silly billy. > > There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July last) > and > I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to > plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, only to > find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. > > We're going to be in the area from the 5th to the 10th Nov. We want to > combine sightseeing and wine visiting, and would like to visit some half a > dozen wineries (with trips fixed up in advance as much as possible). > > My shortlist (for no particular reasons) would include Domaine Drouhin, > Argyle and Ponzi. If you have advice for further visits - I DID keep Eddie > Carter's elliptical suggestions:- > >>just got back from willamette myself - i ddint see anyone mention >>Adelsheim - this guy, after dick erath, is the godfather of oregon >>pinot, and a very cool guy to chew the fat with all around. also of >>note is witnes tree, bethel heights, raptor ridge, and of course, >>domaine serene. > > or advice to keep away, I'd be most grateful. > > Sorry about my stoopidity. > > > -- > All the Best > Ian Hoare > http://www.souvigne.com > mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website |
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![]() "Ian Hoare" > wrote in message ... > Hi folks, > > I have been a silly billy. > > There was a recent thread on places to visit in Willamette, (July last) > and > I thought I had marked it as to be kept. So as I'm seriously starting to > plan my trip there, I went to have a look at peoples' suggestions, only to > find that I didn't keep the thread - duh!! So, can I beg for help again. > > We're going to be in the area from the 5th to the 10th Nov. We want to > combine sightseeing and wine visiting, and would like to visit some half a > dozen wineries (with trips fixed up in advance as much as possible). >. Generally accepted wisdom is to eat at least one evening at Nick's in McMinnville. If you like Riesling try Brooks Winery--I haven't yet tried their Pinot Noir but a friend raves: http://www.northwest-wine.com/Brooks-Winery.html My favorite Pinot Noir winery is Cameron. |
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