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In a recent thread we talked about Austrian wines. Incidentally, I
found the official list of the "Qualitätsweinrebsorten" (grape varieties to produce "Qualitätswein", quality wine), including the list of officially permitted synonyms in brackets: ----------- begin citation ----------- § 1. Für die Erzeugung von Qualitätswein oder Qualitätswein besonderer Reife und Leseart (Prädikatswein) dürfen folgende Qualitätsweinrebsorten verwendet werden: 1. Weißweinrebsorten [white]: Bouvier, Frühroter Veltliner (Malvasier), Furmint, Goldburger, Grauer Burgunder (Pinot Gris, Ruländer), Grüner Veltliner (Weißgipfler), Jubiläumsrebe, Müller-Thurgau (Riesling x Sylvaner, Rivaner), Muskateller (Gelber Muskateller, Roter Muskateller), Muskat-Ottonel, Neuburger, Roter Veltliner, Rotgipfler, Sauvignon Blanc (Muskat-Sylvaner), Scheurebe (Sämling 88), Sylvaner (Grüner Sylvaner), Traminer (Gewürztraminer, Roter Traminer), Weißer Burgunder (Weißburgunder, Pinot Blanc, Klevner) und Chardonnay (Feinburgunder, Morillon), Weißer Riesling (Riesling, Rheinriesling), Welschriesling, Zierfandler (Spätrot). 2. Rotweinrebsorten [red]: Blauburger, Blauer Burgunder (Blauer Spätburgunder, Blauburgunder, Pinot Noir), Blauer Portugieser, Blauer Wildbacher, Blaufränkisch, Cabernet Franc, Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, St. Laurent, Zweigelt (Blauer Zweigelt, Rotburger). ----------- end citation ----------- Please note that this list is federal law; the Bundesländer (provinces) can have their own lists and permit grape varieties not listed here; this happened in the case of Burgenland who included Syrah/Shiraz in their list. M. |
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Michael Pronay wrote:
> In a recent thread we talked about Austrian wines. > Incidentally, I found the official list of the > "Qualitätsweinrebsorten" (grape varieties to produce > "Qualitätswein", quality wine), including the list of > officially permitted synonyms in brackets: Interesting a lot, thanks! BTW, does this line mean what I mean: Sauvignon Blanc (Muskat-Sylvaner) IOW, is Sauvignon Blanc the result of a Muskat and Sylvaner crossing? Vilco |
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Michael Pronay > wrote in message news:
> 1. Weißweinrebsorten [white]: > > Bouvier, Frühroter Veltliner (Malvasier), Furmint, > Goldburger, Grauer Burgunder (Pinot Gris, Ruländer), Grüner > Veltliner (Weißgipfler) -36.04%, Jubiläumsrebe, Müller-Thurgau > (Riesling x Sylvaner, Rivaner-6.78%), Muskateller (Gelber > Muskateller, Roter Muskateller)-0.3%, Muskat-Ottonel, Neuburger-2.26%, > Roter Veltliner, Rotgipfler, Sauvignon Blanc > (Muskat-Sylvaner)-0.65%, Scheurebe (Sämling 88), Sylvaner (Grüner > Sylvaner), Traminer (Gewürztraminer, Roter Traminer)-0.75%, Weißer > Burgunder (Weißburgunder, Pinot Blanc, Klevner)-6%, > Chardonnay (Feinburgunder, Morillon)-0.9%, Weißer Riesling > (Riesling, Rheinriesling)-3.39%, Welschriesling-8.91%, Zierfandler > (Spätrot)-0.45%. > > 2. Rotweinrebsorten [red]: > > Blauburger, Blauer Burgunder (Blauer Spätburgunder, > Blauburgunder( Pinot Noir)-0.84%, Blauer Portugieser-4.86%, Blauer > Wildbacher (Schilcher)-0.96%, Blaufränkisch-5.45%, Cabernet Franc, Cabernet > Sauvignon-0.6%, Merlot, St. Laurent-0.86%, Zweigelt (Blauer Zweigelt, > Rotburger)-8.97%. > M. And just for fun, I've added in the percentage of total plantings for each varietal as listed by the Austrian Wine Marketing Board. They also had Schilcher as an accepted term for Blauer Wildbacher. e. |
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"Vilco" > wrote:
> BTW, does this line mean what I mean: > > Sauvignon Blanc (Muskat-Sylvaner) > > IOW, is Sauvignon Blanc the result of a > Muskat and Sylvaner crossing? No, and that is also the reason why this misleading synonym has been banned. Genetically, sauvignon blanc is also a traminer crossing, but not directly, it appears to be a mutation of sauvignon rosé. M. |
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Michael Pronay > wrote in message news:
> > They also had Schilcher as an accepted term for Blauer > > Wildbacher. > > Not quite. "Schilcher" is the name of the wine, always rosé in > colour. The rare wildbachers vinified in red never carry the name > "Schilcher". > > M. Huh! In every other case in their publication they list the alternate name for the grape in parenthesis after the main name. This is how it was for Blauer Wildbacher. However, if you read on to the description: "This Styrian specialty is vinified predominantly as a refreshing rosé called Schilcher. Vineyards on gneiss and slate soils bring the most distinctive wines with inimitable grassy spice and piercing acidity. This wine is typically enjoyed in summer and its charm is best captured in its youth." which supports what you say. So there you have it. Are any Austrian vintners making wine with Frühroter Veltliner? e. |
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Michael Pronay > wrote in message news:
> > They also had Schilcher as an accepted term for Blauer > > Wildbacher. > > Not quite. "Schilcher" is the name of the wine, always rosé in > colour. The rare wildbachers vinified in red never carry the name > "Schilcher". > > M. Huh! In every other case in their publication they list the alternate name for the grape in parenthesis after the main name. This is how it was for Blauer Wildbacher. However, if you read on to the description: "This Styrian specialty is vinified predominantly as a refreshing rosé called Schilcher. Vineyards on gneiss and slate soils bring the most distinctive wines with inimitable grassy spice and piercing acidity. This wine is typically enjoyed in summer and its charm is best captured in its youth." which supports what you say. So there you have it. Are any Austrian vintners making wine with Frühroter Veltliner? e. |
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"Martin Schulz" > wrote:
> I guess I heard that "Frühroter Veltliner" and "Malvasier" are > the same stuff. True. > Maybe this is bullshit, because "Malvasia" is a widely used > grape in Italy, e.g. component in Chianti Classico. Malvasia and Malvasier are not the same grape. It's the same problem as with "Klevner" designing a multitude of different grape varieties in different regions. M. |
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