Hi,
we'd like to receive your opinion about the possibility to ship a container
from Italy to Far-East in summer period.
Is there somebody that has experience in this sector? Is the wine subject to
alteration?

Thanks for your cooperation.

Neanderthal75

On 2008-07-01 15:27:45 -0700, "Neanderthal" > said:

> Hi,
> we'd like to receive your opinion about the possibility to ship a
> container from Italy to Far-East in summer period.
> Is there somebody that has experience in this sector? Is the wine
> subject to alteration?
>
> Thanks for your cooperation.
>
> Neanderthal75

My knowledge is a bit out of date (about 35 years) but in a previous
incarnation as an international bank lending officer, we had a case
similar - cheese which went through the Suez Canal in July in an
unrefrigerated container. The cheese was subject to "alteration." I'm
not sure what financing you are arranging, but then we used an
irrevocable letter of credit that specified "shipped in refrigerated
container"

I would suggest you talk to your banker who can get you in touch with
the proper folks to protect you and get a good freight forwarder to
arrange packing and shipping.

And yes, shipping wine in summer along the equator will subject the
subject to alteration, if not refrigerated.

Ronin

On Jul 1, 7:27�pm, "Neanderthal" > wrote:
> Hi,
> we'd like to receive your opinion about the possibility to ship a container
> from Italy to Far-East in summer period.
> Is there somebody that has experience in this sector? Is the wine subject to
> alteration?
>
> Thanks for your cooperation.
>
> Neanderthal75

Reefer, reefer, reefer.

Pretty sure this would have to travel either Suez or Panama (or around
a Horn), so refrigerated is only way to go. In fall or spring you can
get by with a "below waterline" guarantee

And you have done this before?


"DaleW" > wrote in message
...
On Jul 1, 7:27?pm, "Neanderthal" > wrote:
> Hi,
> we'd like to receive your opinion about the possibility to ship a
> container
> from Italy to Far-East in summer period.
> Is there somebody that has experience in this sector? Is the wine subject
> to
> alteration?
>
> Thanks for your cooperation.
>
> Neanderthal75

Reefer, reefer, reefer.

Pretty sure this would have to travel either Suez or Panama (or around
a Horn), so refrigerated is only way to go. In fall or spring you can
get by with a "below waterline" guarantee

On Jul 1, 6:27�pm, "Neanderthal" > wrote:
> Hi,
> we'd like to receive your opinion about the possibility to ship a container
> from Italy to Far-East in summer period.
> Is there somebody that has experience in this sector? Is the wine subject to
> alteration?
>
> Thanks for your cooperation.
>
> Neanderthal75


In a former life I was an executive in the transportation logistics
business and now I'm involved in the wine biz as a retirement job.
You need to use a forwarder or exporter....don't try it on your own
without help. You need "protective service" which means that it will
be shipped and cared for in a refrigerated (reefer)container and
maintained at a prescribed temperature. I would specify 45F since it
gives you a bit of a cushion. You will need the forwarder/exporter to
take care of the paperwork and to arrange land transportation to and
from the Port. I've done this about 500,000 times and it is quite
complicated.

I meant the "below waterline" guarantee.


"Mike Tommasi" > wrote in message
...
> Richard Neidich wrote:
>> And you have done this before?
>>
>>
>> "DaleW" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Jul 1, 7:27?pm, "Neanderthal" > wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> we'd like to receive your opinion about the possibility to ship a
>>> container
>>> from Italy to Far-East in summer period.
>>> Is there somebody that has experience in this sector? Is the wine
>>> subject to
>>> alteration?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your cooperation.
>>>
>>> Neanderthal75
>>
>> Reefer, reefer, reefer.
>>
>> Pretty sure this would have to travel either Suez or Panama (or around
>> a Horn), so refrigerated is only way to go. In fall or spring you can
>> get by with a "below waterline" guarantee
>
> Mmmm, I was in Cairo twice in the springtime and temperatures were in the
> high 90s. Suez is probably much hotter.
>
>
> --
> Mike Tommasi - Six Fours, France
> email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

I would concur as in my former life I was a principle at Sundor Brands, we
owned Sunny Delight and Rolling Rock Beer of Latrobe, PA.

Shipping containers really is a difficult business...my biggest issue once
was a container clearing customs in San Juan, from Tropicale of Riviera
Beach Florida....for some reason took 10 days or something, refrig went out,
the sunny delight started to explode from heat.

Not a good day.
"Bi!!" > wrote in message
...
On Jul 1, 6:27?pm, "Neanderthal" > wrote:
> Hi,
> we'd like to receive your opinion about the possibility to ship a
> container
> from Italy to Far-East in summer period.
> Is there somebody that has experience in this sector? Is the wine subject
> to
> alteration?
>
> Thanks for your cooperation.
>
> Neanderthal75


In a former life I was an executive in the transportation logistics
business and now I'm involved in the wine biz as a retirement job.
You need to use a forwarder or exporter....don't try it on your own
without help. You need "protective service" which means that it will
be shipped and cared for in a refrigerated (reefer)container and
maintained at a prescribed temperature. I would specify 45F since it
gives you a bit of a cushion. You will need the forwarder/exporter to
take care of the paperwork and to arrange land transportation to and
from the Port. I've done this about 500,000 times and it is quite
complicated.