These prices seem really good (for the few that I know about).
Can anyone suggest which ones I should try? The last trip I brought my
own (and didn't get charged anything ;-) but maybe at these prices I
should forget that and try some of these.

Your thoughts?

Larry -mostly lurker whose come out of his closet ;-)



Chassagne-Montrachet $56.00
Ariel Non-Alcoholic White Zinfandel $16.00
Ariel Non-Alcoholic Blanc $16.00
Woodbridge Twin Oaks Cabernet Sauvignon $20.00
Santa Carolina Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $22.00
Sylvester Kiara Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $24.00
Wente Estate Cabernet Sauvignon $25.00
Robert Mondavi Private Selection Cabernet Sauvignon $26.00
Rosemount Cabernet Sauvignon $28.00
Fetzer Valley Oaks Cabernet Sauvignon $29.00
Kendall Jackson VR Cabernet Sauvignon $30.00
Clos Du Bois Cabernet Sauvignon $37.00
Kenwood Jack London Cabernet Sauvignon $45.00
Don Melchor Cabernet Sauvignon $55.00
Silverado Cabernet Sauvignon $52.00
Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon $78.00
Robert Mondavi Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $125.00
Caymus Special Selection Cabernet Sauvignon $145.00
Mondavi-Rothschild Opus 1 $195.00
Muriettas Well Meritage $44.00
Stonestreet Meritage $48.00
Duckhorn Paraduxx Meritage $65.00
Don Maximiano Reserve Meritage $69.00
Round Hill Merlot $20.00
Santa Carolina Reserve Merlot $22.00
Sylvester Kiara Reserve Merlot $24.00
Robert Mondavi Private Selection Merlot $26.00
Fetzer Barrel Select Merlot $28.00
Kendal Jackson VR Merlot $30.00
Ferrari-Carano Merlot $38.00
Benziger Merlot $34.00
Schug Heritage Reserve Merlot $56.00
Robert Mondavi Carneros Merlot $49.00
Robert Mondavi Pinot Noir $26.00
La Crema Pinot Noir $30.00
Calera Pinot Noir $36.00
J Wine Pinot Noir $44.00
Wente Estate Syrah $26.00
Rosemount Shiraz $29.00
Wolf Blass Presidents Selection Shiraz $36.00
Beaujolais Villages $22.00
Rothschild Mouton-Cadet $24.00
Chateaunneuf du Pape $30.00
Chateau Bel Air $36.00
Gevery Chambertin $42.00
Chateau Talbot $92.00
Bolla Valpolicellia Classico $20.00
Chianti Classico $30.00
Stefano Farina Barbaresco $36.00
Stefano Farina Barolo $42.00
Brunello di Montalcino (DOCG) $46.00
Luce della Vite $75.00
Ornellaia by Frescobaldi $138.00
Kenwood Yalipa Zinfandel $26.00
Seghesio Zinfandel $35.00
Frogs Leap Zinfandel $42.00
Seghesio Old Vine Zinfandel $54.00

On May 22, 4:48 pm, Larry > wrote:
> These prices seem really good (for the few that I know about).
> Can anyone suggest which ones I should try? The last trip I brought my
> own (and didn't get charged anything ;-) but maybe at these prices I
> should forget that and try some of these.
>
> Your thoughts?

Unless vintage dates and who made the wine is supplied, many of the
wines could range from outstanding to vile, from good value to rip
off, from too young to too old. So far as restaurant prices go, some
of the wines for which the estate is given appear to be of attractive
price if they are from a good year that is ready to drink.

> Larry -mostly lurker whose come out of his closet ;-)
>
> Chassagne-Montrachet $56.00
> Ariel Non-Alcoholic White Zinfandel $16.00
> Ariel Non-Alcoholic Blanc $16.00
> Woodbridge Twin Oaks Cabernet Sauvignon $20.00
> Santa Carolina Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $22.00
> Sylvester Kiara Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $24.00
> Wente Estate Cabernet Sauvignon $25.00
> Robert Mondavi Private Selection Cabernet Sauvignon $26.00
> Rosemount Cabernet Sauvignon $28.00
> Fetzer Valley Oaks Cabernet Sauvignon $29.00
> Kendall Jackson VR Cabernet Sauvignon $30.00
> Clos Du Bois Cabernet Sauvignon $37.00
> Kenwood Jack London Cabernet Sauvignon $45.00
> Don Melchor Cabernet Sauvignon $55.00
> Silverado Cabernet Sauvignon $52.00
> Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon $78.00
> Robert Mondavi Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $125.00
> Caymus Special Selection Cabernet Sauvignon $145.00
> Mondavi-Rothschild Opus 1 $195.00
> Muriettas Well Meritage $44.00
> Stonestreet Meritage $48.00
> Duckhorn Paraduxx Meritage $65.00
> Don Maximiano Reserve Meritage $69.00
> Round Hill Merlot $20.00
> Santa Carolina Reserve Merlot $22.00
> Sylvester Kiara Reserve Merlot $24.00
> Robert Mondavi Private Selection Merlot $26.00
> Fetzer Barrel Select Merlot $28.00
> Kendal Jackson VR Merlot $30.00
> Ferrari-Carano Merlot $38.00
> Benziger Merlot $34.00
> Schug Heritage Reserve Merlot $56.00
> Robert Mondavi Carneros Merlot $49.00
> Robert Mondavi Pinot Noir $26.00
> La Crema Pinot Noir $30.00
> Calera Pinot Noir $36.00
> J Wine Pinot Noir $44.00
> Wente Estate Syrah $26.00
> Rosemount Shiraz $29.00
> Wolf Blass Presidents Selection Shiraz $36.00
> Beaujolais Villages $22.00
> Rothschild Mouton-Cadet $24.00
> Chateaunneuf du Pape $30.00
> Chateau Bel Air $36.00
> Gevery Chambertin $42.00
> Chateau Talbot $92.00
> Bolla Valpolicellia Classico $20.00
> Chianti Classico $30.00
> Stefano Farina Barbaresco $36.00
> Stefano Farina Barolo $42.00
> Brunello di Montalcino (DOCG) $46.00
> Luce della Vite $75.00
> Ornellaia by Frescobaldi $138.00
> Kenwood Yalipa Zinfandel $26.00
> Seghesio Zinfandel $35.00
> Frogs Leap Zinfandel $42.00
> Seghesio Old Vine Zinfandel $54.00

On May 22, 10:59?pm, cwdjrxyz > wrote:
> On May 22, 4:48 pm, Larry > wrote:
>
> > These prices seem really good (for the few that I know about).
> > Can anyone suggest which ones I should try? The last trip I brought my
> > own (and didn't get charged anything ;-) but maybe at these prices I
> > should forget that and try some of these.
>
> > Your thoughts?
>
> Unless vintage dates and who made the wine is supplied, many of the
> wines could range from outstanding to vile, from good value to rip
> off, from too young to too old. So far as restaurant prices go, some
> of the wines for which the estate is given appear to be of attractive
> price if they are from a good year that is ready to drink.
>
>
>
> > Larry -mostly lurker whose come out of his closet ;-)
>
> > Chassagne-Montrachet $56.00
> > Ariel Non-Alcoholic White Zinfandel $16.00
> > Ariel Non-Alcoholic Blanc $16.00
> > Woodbridge Twin Oaks Cabernet Sauvignon $20.00
> > Santa Carolina Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $22.00
> > Sylvester Kiara Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $24.00
> > Wente Estate Cabernet Sauvignon $25.00
> > Robert Mondavi Private Selection Cabernet Sauvignon $26.00
> > Rosemount Cabernet Sauvignon $28.00
> > Fetzer Valley Oaks Cabernet Sauvignon $29.00
> > Kendall Jackson VR Cabernet Sauvignon $30.00
> > Clos Du Bois Cabernet Sauvignon $37.00
> > Kenwood Jack London Cabernet Sauvignon $45.00
> > Don Melchor Cabernet Sauvignon $55.00
> > Silverado Cabernet Sauvignon $52.00
> > Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon $78.00
> > Robert Mondavi Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $125.00
> > Caymus Special Selection Cabernet Sauvignon $145.00
> > Mondavi-Rothschild Opus 1 $195.00
> > Muriettas Well Meritage $44.00
> > Stonestreet Meritage $48.00
> > Duckhorn Paraduxx Meritage $65.00
> > Don Maximiano Reserve Meritage $69.00
> > Round Hill Merlot $20.00
> > Santa Carolina Reserve Merlot $22.00
> > Sylvester Kiara Reserve Merlot $24.00
> > Robert Mondavi Private Selection Merlot $26.00
> > Fetzer Barrel Select Merlot $28.00
> > Kendal Jackson VR Merlot $30.00
> > Ferrari-Carano Merlot $38.00
> > Benziger Merlot $34.00
> > Schug Heritage Reserve Merlot $56.00
> > Robert Mondavi Carneros Merlot $49.00
> > Robert Mondavi Pinot Noir $26.00
> > La Crema Pinot Noir $30.00
> > Calera Pinot Noir $36.00
> > J Wine Pinot Noir $44.00
> > Wente Estate Syrah $26.00
> > Rosemount Shiraz $29.00
> > Wolf Blass Presidents Selection Shiraz $36.00
> > Beaujolais Villages $22.00
> > Rothschild Mouton-Cadet $24.00
> > Chateaunneuf du Pape $30.00
> > Chateau Bel Air $36.00
> > Gevery Chambertin $42.00
> > Chateau Talbot $92.00
> > Bolla Valpolicellia Classico $20.00
> > Chianti Classico $30.00
> > Stefano Farina Barbaresco $36.00
> > Stefano Farina Barolo $42.00
> > Brunello di Montalcino (DOCG) $46.00
> > Luce della Vite $75.00
> > Ornellaia by Frescobaldi $138.00
> > Kenwood Yalipa Zinfandel $26.00
> > Seghesio Zinfandel $35.00
> > Frogs Leap Zinfandel $42.00
> > Seghesio Old Vine Zinfandel $54.00- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Agree, without knowing vintage it's hard to say. And as CWDJRXYZ
notes, many appelations are listed without even producer! Gevry-
Chambertin can range from $15 to $100+, similar situation with Chianti
Classico, Brunello, CdP,. etc.

The things that seem the best deals on current info would be the
Farina nebbiolos (hard to argue with Barolo/Barbaresco under $50 on a
winelist) or the Don Melchor.

"Larry" wrote ..........

> Maybe at these prices I should forget that and try some of these.
>

The equation is simple -
55 bottles (excluding alcfree)
@ 2 bottles per day (1 ea lunch & dinner)
= 27 day cruise

Enjoy !!!!!

--

st.helier

Larry wrote:
> These prices seem really good (for the few that I know about).
> Can anyone suggest which ones I should try? The last trip I brought my
> own (and didn't get charged anything ;-) but maybe at these prices I
> should forget that and try some of these.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Larry -mostly lurker whose come out of his closet ;-)

Just back from the Royal Princess so I can answer a couple of questions.
they now charge $15US a bottle for corkage (I was charged once not
the second time) these are mostly recent vintage.
>

> Fetzer Valley Oaks Cabernet Sauvignon $29.00

> La Crema Pinot Noir $30.00

> Beaujolais Villages $22.00
this one is a 2005 IIRC from BeBouef

> Chateaunneuf du Pape $30.00
la Nerthe 2003 raisiny
>
> Bolla Valpolicellia Classico $20.00
03's and 04's
> Chianti Classico $30.00
Brolio 03's and 04's
the white burg's were mostly young Jadot's

In article . com>,
Larry > wrote:

> These prices seem really good (for the few that I know about).
> Can anyone suggest which ones I should try? The last trip I brought my
> own (and didn't get charged anything ;-) but maybe at these prices I
> should forget that and try some of these.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Larry -mostly lurker whose come out of his closet ;-)
>
>
>
> Chassagne-Montrachet $56.00
> Ariel Non-Alcoholic White Zinfandel $16.00
> Ariel Non-Alcoholic Blanc $16.00
> Woodbridge Twin Oaks Cabernet Sauvignon $20.00
> Santa Carolina Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $22.00
> Sylvester Kiara Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $24.00
> Wente Estate Cabernet Sauvignon $25.00
> Robert Mondavi Private Selection Cabernet Sauvignon $26.00
> Rosemount Cabernet Sauvignon $28.00
> Fetzer Valley Oaks Cabernet Sauvignon $29.00
> Kendall Jackson VR Cabernet Sauvignon $30.00
> Clos Du Bois Cabernet Sauvignon $37.00
> Kenwood Jack London Cabernet Sauvignon $45.00
> Don Melchor Cabernet Sauvignon $55.00
> Silverado Cabernet Sauvignon $52.00
> Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon $78.00
> Robert Mondavi Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon $125.00
> Caymus Special Selection Cabernet Sauvignon $145.00
> Mondavi-Rothschild Opus 1 $195.00
> Muriettas Well Meritage $44.00
> Stonestreet Meritage $48.00
> Duckhorn Paraduxx Meritage $65.00
> Don Maximiano Reserve Meritage $69.00
> Round Hill Merlot $20.00
> Santa Carolina Reserve Merlot $22.00
> Sylvester Kiara Reserve Merlot $24.00
> Robert Mondavi Private Selection Merlot $26.00
> Fetzer Barrel Select Merlot $28.00
> Kendal Jackson VR Merlot $30.00
> Ferrari-Carano Merlot $38.00
> Benziger Merlot $34.00
> Schug Heritage Reserve Merlot $56.00
> Robert Mondavi Carneros Merlot $49.00
> Robert Mondavi Pinot Noir $26.00
> La Crema Pinot Noir $30.00
> Calera Pinot Noir $36.00
> J Wine Pinot Noir $44.00
> Wente Estate Syrah $26.00
> Rosemount Shiraz $29.00
> Wolf Blass Presidents Selection Shiraz $36.00
> Beaujolais Villages $22.00
> Rothschild Mouton-Cadet $24.00
> Chateaunneuf du Pape $30.00
> Chateau Bel Air $36.00
> Gevery Chambertin $42.00
> Chateau Talbot $92.00
> Bolla Valpolicellia Classico $20.00
> Chianti Classico $30.00
> Stefano Farina Barbaresco $36.00
> Stefano Farina Barolo $42.00
> Brunello di Montalcino (DOCG) $46.00
> Luce della Vite $75.00
> Ornellaia by Frescobaldi $138.00
> Kenwood Yalipa Zinfandel $26.00
> Seghesio Zinfandel $35.00
> Frogs Leap Zinfandel $42.00
> Seghesio Old Vine Zinfandel $54.00

Lat Princess Cruise I took they searched my bags for wines and took
them. The list, while not great, will be reduced by the cheaper bottles
going early. This has happened on every cruise I've taken and Princess
seems to run out of inexpensive wines fast.

On May 22, 10:48 pm, Larry > wrote:
> These prices seem really good (for the few that I know about).
> Can anyone suggest which ones I should try? The last trip I brought my
> own (and didn't get charged anything ;-) but maybe at these prices I
> should forget that and try some of these.

Forgive my ignorance as I have never been on a cruise, I thought that
the wine was supplied with dinner????

Judith

wrote:
> On May 22, 10:48 pm, Larry > wrote:
>> These prices seem really good (for the few that I know about).
>> Can anyone suggest which ones I should try? The last trip I brought my
>> own (and didn't get charged anything ;-) but maybe at these prices I
>> should forget that and try some of these.
>
> Forgive my ignorance as I have never been on a cruise, I thought that
> the wine was supplied with dinner????
>
> Judith
>
As the resident cruise agent and junkie, I can attest that you are
correct, but only in part. Wine, and other spirits are supplied on the
"luxury lines", such as Regent, Silversea and the like as well as on
some river cruises. Mainstream "mass market" cruises such as Princes,
Holland America, Costa, Royal Caribbean and Celebrity to name a few,
charge extra for anything other than water(tap)iced tea, tea and coffee.

On Jun 3, 12:51 pm, Joseph Coulter > wrote:
> wrote:
> > On May 22, 10:48 pm, Larry > wrote:
> >> These prices seem really good (for the few that I know about).
> >> Can anyone suggest which ones I should try? The last trip I brought my
> >> own (and didn't get charged anything ;-) but maybe at these prices I
> >> should forget that and try some of these.
>
> > Forgive my ignorance as I have never been on a cruise, I thought that
> > the wine was supplied with dinner????
>
> > Judith
>
> As the resident cruise agent and junkie, I can attest that you are
> correct, but only in part. Wine, and other spirits are supplied on the
> "luxury lines", such as Regent, Silversea and the like as well as on
> some river cruises. Mainstream "mass market" cruises such as Princes,
> Holland America, Costa, Royal Caribbean and Celebrity to name a few,
> charge extra for anything other than water(tap)iced tea, tea and coffee.

There was a time in the 1800s when top restaurants always had
decanters of both white and red wine on the table. A book written in
the late 1800s by the retired Swiss chef of the Delmonico in New York
gives information about this. He states that not matter what fine
wines may be ordered at the meal, the table must nevertheless have
decanters of white and red wine. There are restaurants today that have
tasting menus that include matched wines in the basic costs, but I do
not recall seeing any restaurants in recent years that include even
very plain house wines at no extra cost with the a la carte
selections.

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 12:27:16 -0700
cwdjrxyz > wrote:

> tasting menus that include matched wines in the basic costs, but I do
> not recall seeing any restaurants in recent years that include even
> very plain house wines at no extra cost with the a la carte
> selections.

A few years ago I frequented a pizza restaurant outside of Marseille, that
had a nice outside lunch area. The pizza was OK if not memorable. Wine
was included in the price: red, pink or white.

Each diner was served a 1.5 liter plastic bottle of wine. All well chilled.
Needless to say, only screwtops were employed, making this
well ahead of its time.

I don't remember if the bottles had labels or not...



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In article om>,
" > wrote:

> On May 22, 10:48 pm, Larry > wrote:
> > These prices seem really good (for the few that I know about).
> > Can anyone suggest which ones I should try? The last trip I brought my
> > own (and didn't get charged anything ;-) but maybe at these prices I
> > should forget that and try some of these.
>
> Forgive my ignorance as I have never been on a cruise, I thought that
> the wine was supplied with dinner????
>
> Judith

It is supplied if you pay for it. Only a few cruise lines on the very
upper end of cost and amenities give you alcohol. Silversea I believe is
the only one. They make as much money from you for alcohol as they
charge for the cruise in most cases.

On Jun 3, 9:09 pm, Emery Davis > wrote:
> A few years ago I frequented a pizza restaurant outside of Marseille, that
> had a nice outside lunch area. The pizza was OK if not memorable. Wine
> was included in the price: red, pink or white.
>
> Each diner was served a 1.5 liter plastic bottle of wine. All well chilled.
> Needless to say, only screwtops were employed, making this
> well ahead of its time.

In most French routier restaurants, you will get a bottle of
housewine, red, with your lunch and, as you say, it comes with a screw
top. Not bad when you consider the lunch is probably only about 10
euros.

One of the best rustic meals I have ever had was in an Italian lorry
stop restaurant where you were not given a choice of meal, it ended up
on the table with a bottle of red. It was a beef dish with olives and
green beans and the wine was quite palatable and just for a few lira
in those days.

Judith