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"Scented Nectar" believed the classic "vegan" Denying
the Antecedent fallacy, and she has admitted it: If I eat meat, I cause animals to suffer and die. I do not eat meat; therefore, I do not cause animals to suffer and die. She implicitly admits she believed this, because she EXPLICITLY admits to following the rule - "do not consume animal parts" - and several days ago she admitted to not having known about CDs: At first I didn't know about cds or what the initials meant (collateral deaths). "Scented Nectar" - 13 Dec 2004 Then, she retreated to the much weaker position that she is "doing the best [she] can". This is also exposed as a false statement, and she now admits that she is NOT doing the best she can: Jay: Meaningless [that the naive twit has switched from "lacto-ovo" to strictly vegetarian]. Even WITHIN a strictly vegetarian diet - "lacto-ovo" is not vegetarian, no matter what bullshit web page told you it is - you can choose higher or lower CD-causing foods. You do NOT attempt to learn which ones are high CD foods and which ones cause fewer. You ONLY follow the stupid rule: don't consume animal parts. That does nothing to help you choose among competing vegetable foods. the naive twit: Now you're trying a divide and conquer technique. You'd love to see vegans arguing over who's lunch today has more cds. The fact still stands that vegans as a whole cause less cds than meateaters as a whole. Implicitly, the naive pothead twit has abandoned her always-fatuous claim that she was doing the best that she could, and she NOW is trying to wrap herself in some kind of flag of "average vegan-ness". It is NOT playing any kind of "word game" to identify implicit statements someone makes, and the admissions have in no way been "engineered". The naive pothead twit has not been forced to admit to anything she doesn't really believe. |
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