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Squaring the Irrational Search for Micrograms with "vegan" do-nothingism
On Apr 6, 9:46*am, George Plimpton > wrote:
> On 4/6/2012 8:25 AM, Rupert wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 5:03 pm, George > *wrote: > >> Woopert blabbers a lot about how "vegans" are entitled to their smug > >> satisfaction that they've made a meaningful contribution to the > >> reduction of animal suffering merely by not putting identifiable animal > >> bits in their mouths. *I point out that "vegans" never attempt to make > >> any comparison of the amounts of harm caused by those things they *do* > >> eat, and Woopert moans that "there's no data", and so he justifies doing > >> nothing further. > > >> But "vegans" - all of them - spend an inordinate amount of time looking > >> for and trying to eliminate the last possible bit of animal > >> "contamination" from their diet. *In my time in these groups since 1999, > >> I have seen the following belabored here by "vegans": > > >> * * * brined black olives in tins or jars - the brining liquid is made > >> * * * black by the addition of squid ink > > >> * * * Worcestershire sauce - the classic Lea& *Perrins recipe, and > >> * * * probably most other brands, contain a tiny amount of anchovy > > >> * * * refined sugar - the most common method of refining sugar to create > >> * * * white crystalline sugar uses bone char > > >> * * * lanolin in lotions and body creams - lanolin is a by-product of > >> * * * wool production > > >> "vegans" spend huge amounts of time and effort trying to identify these > >> last remaining bits of animal "contamination" in their shopping baskets > >> and eliminating them. *When they find one of them and report on it here > >> or in other "vegan" forums, there is a palpable sense of smugness in the > >> announcement of the discovery and removal; something like "Well! *That's > >> the last time *I* will buy a bottle of Lea& *Perrins!!!" > > >> I refer to this effort as the Irrational Search for Micrograms (of > >> Animal Parts). *If a "vegan" made a comparable effort to determine which > >> vegetable and fruit produce causes the most harm, and eliminate those > >> from her diet, it would undoubtedly have a much greater effect in > >> reducing harm to animals; but announcing that one is *consuming* a few > >> micrograms less of animal bits is much more satisfying to the "vegan" > >> sense of unwarranted moral superiority. > > >> This irrational search - and it is undeniable that it occurs - > >> completely queers the "vegan" claim to being motivated by a wish to > >> reduce harm to animals. *No, the motivation is *purely* trying to occupy > >> an imaginary moral pedestal, and basking in the fake sense of > >> superiority that comes from imagining themselves upon it. *The fact > >> they'll expend enormous time and effort in the irrational search, but > >> *no* time or effort trying to get harm-causing vegetable produce out of > >> their diets, is the proof. > > > What do you suppose would motivate the search if they didn't believe > > (falsely) that it was the best way of trying to reduce harm to > > animals? How would you make sense of what they are doing if they > > didn't have that belief? > > The belief is plainly false. *Getting black olives out of their diet > could not *possibly* have as great an effect at reducing harm to animals > as identifying the most harm-causing vegetable or fruit they currently > eat and finding a lower-harm substitute for it. > > It is clear that not consuming animal bits - and the false sense of > moral superiority that produces - is what motivates them, rather than a > sincere wish to reduce the harm they cause to animals. Goobiedoodle, you're an idiot. |
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