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On Apr 7, 6:49*am, Frank wrote:

Also longevity is not the same as health. To live long with a health
problem that does not kill is not the same as being healthy. *Do not
confuse between longevity and health.


Tell those with health problems being managed that they are better off
dead. *I know of very few that would agree with you.


I did not say they are better off dead. I said only that there is a
difference between longevity and health.

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On Apr 7, 4:28*pm, Jerry wrote:
On Apr 7, 6:49*am, Frank wrote:

Also longevity is not the same as health. To live long with a health
problem that does not kill is not the same as being healthy. *Do not
confuse between longevity and health.

Tell those with health problems being managed that they are better off
dead. *I know of very few that would agree with you.


I did not say they are better off dead. I said only that there is a
difference between longevity and health.


Yes, objective is to live long and be in good health. They are not
exclusive.
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On 4/8/2010 7:52 AM, Frank wrote:
On Apr 7, 4:28 pm, wrote:
On Apr 7, 6:49 am, wrote:

Also longevity is not the same as health. To live long with a health
problem that does not kill is not the same as being healthy. Do not
confuse between longevity and health.
Tell those with health problems being managed that they are better off
dead. I know of very few that would agree with you.


I did not say they are better off dead. I said only that there is a
difference between longevity and health.


Yes, objective is to live long and be in good health. They are not
exclusive.


I've seen cancer. I'll take dead in preference.

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On Apr 8, 5:52*am, Frank wrote:
On Apr 7, 4:28*pm, Jerry wrote:

On Apr 7, 6:49*am, Frank wrote:


Also longevity is not the same as health. To live long with a health
problem that does not kill is not the same as being healthy. *Do not
confuse between longevity and health.
Tell those with health problems being managed that they are better off
dead. *I know of very few that would agree with you.


I did not say they are better off dead. I said only that there is a
difference between longevity and health.


Yes, objective is to live long and be in good health. *They are not
exclusive.


My point was merely that altho longevity is an easy measure of health,
it is not a very accurate measure of health. So in the discussion of
whether people are healthier or less healthy than 100 years ago, life
expectancy may be misleading measure, especially with modern
technology that enables people to live a long time with bad health. To
measure -health- (not longevity) is not so easy.

I did not say or suggest or imply that longevity is bad or that life
is not worth living if one is sick or that there is a tradeoff between
longevity and health. Merely that there is a difference. A difference
does not mean a tradeoff.
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Frank wrote:

On Apr 7, 4:28*pm, Jerry wrote:
On Apr 7, 6:49*am, Frank wrote:

Also longevity is not the same as health. To live long with a health
problem that does not kill is not the same as being healthy. *Do not
confuse between longevity and health.
Tell those with health problems being managed that they are better off
dead. *I know of very few that would agree with you.


I did not say they are better off dead. I said only that there is a
difference between longevity and health.


Yes, objective is to live long and be in good health. They are not
exclusive.


Come on, Frank. Your always telling us that you are a CHEMIST. Say
something "chemisty";O)
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