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vias 04-01-2004 11:42 PM

Honey
 
I'm not a vegan but shop at a vegan shop in Manchester, UK [ Unicorn
Grocery].

Recently I needed to buy some honey but was told they didn't sell it because
it was an animal product. Is this right? Sure, the bees collect nectar and
process it to honey but is honey therefore not allowed in a vegan diet?

Philip



Rubystars 05-01-2004 12:45 AM

Honey
 

"vias" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not a vegan but shop at a vegan shop in Manchester, UK [ Unicorn
> Grocery].
>
> Recently I needed to buy some honey but was told they didn't sell it

because
> it was an animal product. Is this right? Sure, the bees collect nectar and
> process it to honey but is honey therefore not allowed in a vegan diet?
>
> Philip


Bees are animals, and honey contains some chemicals from the bees in it as
well as the flower nectar. Honey isn't vegetarian, much less vegan.

-Rubystars



Pete Wolcott 05-01-2004 03:49 AM

Honey
 
Take a look at: http://www.airborne.co.nz/Enzymes.html Most of the
beneficial enzymes are destroyed by commercial honey processing. Raw honey
is considered healthful by many, but is obviously an animal processed
product. I take care of the bees and they share.
Pete


"vias" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not a vegan but shop at a vegan shop in Manchester, UK [ Unicorn
> Grocery].
>
> Recently I needed to buy some honey but was told they didn't sell it

because
> it was an animal product. Is this right? Sure, the bees collect nectar and
> process it to honey but is honey therefore not allowed in a vegan diet?
>
> Philip
>
>




vias 05-01-2004 11:11 PM

Honey
 
Thanks

Yes, I normally use individual apiculteur honey from France but ran out.

"Pete Wolcott" > wrote in message
...
> Take a look at: http://www.airborne.co.nz/Enzymes.html Most of the
> beneficial enzymes are destroyed by commercial honey processing. Raw

honey
> is considered healthful by many, but is obviously an animal processed
> product. I take care of the bees and they share.
> Pete
>
>
> "vias" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm not a vegan but shop at a vegan shop in Manchester, UK [ Unicorn
> > Grocery].
> >
> > Recently I needed to buy some honey but was told they didn't sell it

> because
> > it was an animal product. Is this right? Sure, the bees collect nectar

and
> > process it to honey but is honey therefore not allowed in a vegan diet?
> >
> > Philip
> >
> >

>
>




Halcitron 07-01-2004 03:31 AM

Honey
 
>From: "vias"
>Newsgroups: alt.food.vegan
>Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:42:04 +0000 (UTC)


>
>I'm not a vegan but shop at a vegan shop in Manchester, UK [ Unicorn
>Grocery].
>
>Recently I needed to buy some honey but was told they didn't sell it because
>it was an animal product. Is this right? Sure, the bees collect nectar and
>process it to honey but is honey therefore not allowed in a vegan diet?
>
>Philip


Bees are insects. Insects die in the harvest of fruits and vegetables (look in
your lettuce and celery). If vegans worried about harming insects, they would
starve.

But then millions of mice and earth worms, die each year in the cultivation and
harvest of vegetables. Thus is the moral burden of vegans.

:/


caveat lector

Halcitron misc.survivalism
Check your six and know when to duck.
NRA Member since 2002
The Law of the Land, is the weapon in your hand.

Smith & Wesson starts where the Bill of Rights stop.


Halcitron 07-01-2004 03:34 AM

Honey
 
>From: "Pete Wolcott"
>Newsgroups: alt.food.vegan


>
>Take a look at:
http://www.airborne.co.nz/Enzymes.html Most of the
>beneficial enzymes are destroyed by commercial honey processing. Raw honey
>is considered healthful by many, but is obviously an animal processed
>product. I take care of the bees and they share.
>Pete


And what of milk and eggs? You don't kill the cow/goat or chicken to get these,
however the pig must die to give up the bacon.

:/


caveat lector

Halcitron misc.survivalism
Check your six and know when to duck.
NRA Member since 2002
The Law of the Land, is the weapon in your hand.

Smith & Wesson starts where the Bill of Rights stop.


Pete Wolcott 09-01-2004 02:05 AM

Honey
 
Eggs and milk are manufactured not processed a bit of a different issue. I
am not
trying to be a purist. If you don't want to eat honey don't eat it.
One interesting thing I saw in vegan cook book was a call out for Vegan
Honey. As far as I know it is Illegal to sell anything labeled as honey
that isn't Honey! (US)
Pete

"Halcitron" > wrote in message
...
> >From: "Pete Wolcott"
> >Newsgroups: alt.food.vegan

>
> >
> >Take a look at:
http://www.airborne.co.nz/Enzymes.html Most of the
> >beneficial enzymes are destroyed by commercial honey processing. Raw

honey
> >is considered healthful by many, but is obviously an animal processed
> >product. I take care of the bees and they share.
> >Pete

>
> And what of milk and eggs? You don't kill the cow/goat or chicken to get

these,
> however the pig must die to give up the bacon.
>
> :/
>
>
> caveat lector
>
> Halcitron misc.survivalism
> Check your six and know when to duck.
> NRA Member since 2002
> The Law of the Land, is the weapon in your hand.
>
> Smith & Wesson starts where the Bill of Rights stop.
>





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