test, ignore

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/science/09rock.html

Failure to properly absorb vitamin B12, found in meat, milk and eggs,
has been implicated in various neurological disorders. Now a British
study suggests that low levels of the vitamin in older people may
cause the brain to shrink.

wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/science/09rock.html
>
> Failure to properly absorb vitamin B12, found in meat, milk and
> eggs,
Failure to absorb is NOT the fault of dietary input.

Nonsense, B-12 was IN plant foods UNTIL the cyanobacteria, and all
other micro-life was killed by chemical agriculture.
http://www.ecologos.org/B-12.htm

Laurie

> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/science/09rock.html
>
> Failure to properly absorb vitamin B12, found in meat, milk and
"> eggs,
Failure to absorb is NOT the fault of dietary input.

" Nonsense, B-12 was IN plant foods UNTIL the cyanobacteria, and
all
other micro-life was killed by chemical agriculture."

Sorry, this does not meet the criteria of science as set by our beloved
leader.

You make a strawman comment with regard to the article as no such claim
relative to your comment was made.

If it was/is in plants it is because it was in contact with manure
or soil or both and some was by physical means assimilated into the
plant quite by accident. The bacteria that produce vit b12 exist in
animal large guts, their manure, the soil, and often back making a cycle
into the animals again.

wrote:

> " Nonsense, B-12 was IN plant foods UNTIL the cyanobacteria,
> and all other micro-life was killed by chemical agriculture."
> Sorry, this does not meet the criteria of science as set by our
> beloved leader.
THIS is your beloved leader on a.f.v.s.
Mozafar found B-12 IN plants. Read the reference.

> If it was/is in plants it is because it was in contact with manure
> or soil or both and some was by physical means assimilated into the
> plant quite by accident.
ALL minerals, proteins, fats, enzymes, co-factors, and CHO's are IN
the plant because the plant absorbed certain chemicals and then
synthesized said nutrients.
What is your point; is there any??

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Laurie Forti, Moderator

alt.food.vegan.science

> If it was/is in plants it is because it was in contact with manure
> or soil or both and some was by physical means assimilated into the
> plant quite by accident.

"ALL minerals, proteins, fats, enzymes, co-factors, and CHO's
are IN the plant because the plant absorbed certain chemicals and then
synthesized said nutrients."

Good you did not mention vitamins, now why would that be? But not vit
b12, plants do not synthesis it and any they might contain is from
contact from animal feces or other soil sources. Washing plants can
remove it. Here is a vegan web page with good advice for getting enough
of it:

Vitamin B12: Are You Getting It? : Sources of B12 for Vegans

http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/vegansources