http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/56087/

On Jul 11, 2:37 am, "
> wrote:
> http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/56087/


i wish these meatatarians would **** off.


eat shit and die... now go about your burger king... eh?

ges wrote:
> On Jul 11, 2:37 am, "
> > wrote:
>> http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/56087/
>
> i wish these meatatarians would **** off.

LOL... so bitter.

Unfortunately for you, you get no say in who posts and what gets posted
here

> eat shit and die... now go about your burger king... eh?

burger king sell soy burgers now?


--
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

- Epicurus

On Jul 29, 1:03 am, Jeßus > wrote:
> ges wrote:
> > On Jul 11, 2:37 am, "
> > > wrote:
> >>http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/56087/
>
> > i wish these meatatarians would **** off.
>
> LOL... so bitter.
>
> Unfortunately for you, you get no say in who posts and what gets posted
> here
>
> > eat shit and die... now go about your burger king... eh?
>
> burger king sell soy burgers now?
>
> --
> Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
> Then he is not omnipotent.
> Is he able, but not willing?
> Then he is malevolent.
> Is he both able and willing?
> Then whence cometh evil?
> Is he neither able nor willing?
> Then why call him God?
>
> - Epicurus



oh why not bring up that soy makes people *** and act like elton
john.

ges wrote:
> On Jul 29, 1:03 am, Jeßus > wrote:
>> ges wrote:
>>> On Jul 11, 2:37 am, "
>>> > wrote:
>>>> http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/56087/
>>> i wish these meatatarians would **** off.
>> LOL... so bitter.
>>
>> Unfortunately for you, you get no say in who posts and what gets posted
>> here
>>
>>> eat shit and die... now go about your burger king... eh?
>> burger king sell soy burgers now?
>>
>> --
>> Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
>> Then he is not omnipotent.
>> Is he able, but not willing?
>> Then he is malevolent.
>> Is he both able and willing?
>> Then whence cometh evil?
>> Is he neither able nor willing?
>> Then why call him God?
>>
>> - Epicurus
>
>
>
> oh why not bring up that soy makes people *** and act like elton
> john.

Probably because it makes no sense... that's why not.

--
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

- Epicurus

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
> Unfortunately for you, you get no say in who posts and what gets posted
> here
Actually, the individual who learns how to properly use his/her
newsreader's filters DOES,

> --
> Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
> Then he is not omnipotent.
> Is he able, but not willing?
> Then he is malevolent.
> Is he both able and willing?
> Then whence cometh evil?
> Is he neither able nor willing?
> Then why call him God?
>
> - Epicurus

Apparently this old boy did not know about free will, and thus blames
invisible spirits for human idiocy.
Isn't it more fun to watch noBalls destroy himself, than insist that God
force noBalls to be human?

"Because I'm far smarter than you give me credit for, Shitbag.
Because unlike you, I don't think I'm smarter than everyone else." - noBalls

Laurie


Laurie

"ges" > wrote in message

> ... why not bring up that soy makes people *** ...
There are well documented issues.
http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html#s

Laurie

On Aug 6, 5:42 pm, "Laurie" > wrote:
> "ges" > wrote in message
> > ... why not bring up that soy makes people *** ...
>
> There are well documented issues.http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html#s
>
> Laurie



bull and shit.

sorry been eating soy for years... is still quite hetero.

i guess next you'll tell me that god talks to you directly?

ges gibbered:
> On Aug 6, 5:42 pm, "Laurie" > wrote:
>> "ges" > wrote in message
>>> ... why not bring up that soy makes people *** ...
>> There are well documented issues.http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html#s
>
> bull and shit.
>
> sorry been eating soy for years... is still quite hetero.
>
> i guess next you'll tell me that god talks to you directly?
>


This seems particularly applicable to you:

---------------------
The Trouble With Tofu: Soy and the Brain


By John D. MacArthur

"Tofu Shrinks Brain!" Not a science fiction scenario, this sobering
soybean revelation is for real. But how did the "poster bean" of the
'90s go wrong? Apparently, in many ways -- none of which bode well for
the brain.

In a major ongoing study involving 3,734 elderly Japanese-American men,
those who ate the most tofu during midlife had up to 2.4 times the risk
of later developing Alzheimer's disease. As part of the three-decade
long Honolulu-Asia Aging Study, 27 foods and drinks were correlated with
participants' health. Men who consumed tofu at least twice weekly had
more cognitive impairment, compared with those who rarely or never ate
the soybean curd. [1,2]

"The test results were about equivalent to what they would have been if
they were five years older," said lead researcher Dr. Lon R. White from
the Hawaii Center for Health Research. For the guys who ate no tofu,
however, they tested as though they were five years younger.

What's more, higher midlife tofu consumption was also associated with
low brain weight. Brain atrophy was assessed in 574 men using MRI
results and in 290 men using autopsy information. Shrinkage occurs
naturally with age, but for the men who had consumed more tofu, White
said "their brains seemed to be showing an exaggeration of the usual
patterns we see in aging."

Phytoestrogens -- Soy Self Defense

Tofu and other soybean foods contain isoflavones, three-ringed molecules
bearing a structural resemblance to mammalian steroidal hormones. White
and his fellow researchers speculate that soy's estrogen-like compounds
(phytoestrogens) might compete with the body's natural estrogens for
estrogen receptors in brain cells.

Plants have evolved many different strategies to protect themselves from
predators. Some have thorns or spines, while others smell bad, taste
bad, or poison animals that eat them. Some plants took a different
route, using birth control as a way to counter the critters who were
wont to munch.

Plants such as soy are making oral contraceptives to defend themselves,
says Claude Hughes, Ph.D., a neuroendocrinologist at Cedars-Sinai
Medical Center. They evolved compounds that mimic natural estrogen.
These phytoestrogens can interfere with the mammalian hormones involved
in reproduction and growth -- a strategy to reduce the number and size
of predators.

Toxicologists Concerned About Soy's Health Risks

The soy industry says that White's study only shows an association
between tofu consumption and brain aging, but does not prove cause and
effect. On the other hand, soy experts at the National Center for
Toxicological Research, Daniel Sheehan, Ph.D., and Daniel Doerge, Ph.D.,
consider this tofu study very important. "It is one of the more robust,
well-designed prospective epidemiological studies generally available. .
.. We rarely have such power in human studies, as well as a potential
mechanism."

In a 1999 letter to the FDA (and on the ABC News program 20/20), the two
toxicologists expressed their opposition to the agency's health claims
for soy, saying the Honolulu study "provides evidence that soy (tofu)
phytoestrogens cause vascular dementia. Given that estrogens are
important for maintenance of brain function in women; that the male
brain contains aromatase, the enzyme that converts testosterone to
estradiol; and that isoflavones inhibit this enzymatic activity, there
is a mechanistic basis for the human findings." [3]

Although estrogen's role in the central nervous system is not well
understood, White notes that "a growing body of information suggests
that estrogens may be needed for optimal repair and replacement of
neural structures eroded with aging."

One link to the puzzle may involve calcium-binding proteins, which are
associated with protection against neurodegenerative diseases. In recent
animal studies at Brigham Young University's Neuroscience Center,
researchers found that consumption of phytoestrogens via a soy diet for
a relatively short interval can significantly elevate phytoestrogens
levels in the brain and decrease brain calcium-binding proteins. [4]
Tyrosine, Dopamine, and Parkinson's Disease

The brain uses the amino acids tyrosine or phenylalanine to synthesize
the key neurotransmitters dopamine and norepinephrine, brain chemicals
that promote alertness and activity. Dopamine is crucial to fine muscle
coordination. People whose hands tremble from Parkinson's disease have a
diminished ability to synthesize dopamine. An increased incidence of
depression and other mood disorders are associated with low levels of
dopamine and norepinephrine. Also, the current scientific consensus on
attention-deficit disorder points to a dopamine imbalance.

Soy has been shown to affect tyrosine hydroxylase activity in animals,
causing the utilization rate of dopamine to be "profoundly disturbed."
When soy lecithin supplements were given throughout perinatal
development, they reduced activity in the cerebral cortex and "altered
synaptic characteristics in a manner consistent with disturbances in
neural function." [10]

Researchers at Sweden's Karolinska Institute at the National Institutes
of Health and are finding a connection between tyrosine hydroxylase
activity, thyroid hormone receptors, and depleted dopamine levels in the
brain -- particularly in the substantia nigra, a region associated with
the movement difficulties characteristic of Parkinson's disease. [11-13]

Soy Affects the Brain via the Thyroid Gland

Tyrosine is crucial to the brain in another way. It's needed for the
body to make active thyroid hormones, which are a major physiological
regulator of mammalian brain development. By affecting the rate of cell
differentiation and gene expression, thyroid hormones regulate the
growth and migration of neurons, including synaptic development and
myelin formation in specific brain regions. Low blood levels of tyrosine
are associated with an underactive thyroid gland.

Scientists have known for years that isoflavones in soy products can
depress thyroid function, causing goiter (enlarged thyroid gland) and
autoimmune thyroid disease. In the early 1960s, goiter and
hypothyroidism were reported in infants fed soybean diets. [14]
Scientists at the National Center for Toxicological Research showed that
the soy isoflavones genistein and daidzein "inhibit thyroid
peroxidase-catalyzed reactions essential to thyroid hormone synthesis." [15]

Japanese researchers studied effects on the thyroid from soybeans
administered to healthy subjects. They reported that consumption of as
little as 30 grams (two tablespoons) of soybeans per day for only one
month resulted in a significant increase in thyroid stimulating hormone
(TSH), which is produced by the brain's pituitary gland when thyroid
hormones are too low. Their findings suggested that "excessive soybean
ingestion for a certain duration might suppress thyroid function and
cause goiters in healthy people, especially elderly subjects." [16]

Thyroid Hormones and Fetal Brain Development

Thyroid alterations are among the most frequently encountered autoimmune
conditions in children. Researchers at Cornell University Medical
College showed that the "frequency of feedings with soy-based milk
formulas in early life was significantly higher in children with
autoimmune thyroid disease." [17] In a previous study, they found that
twice as many diabetic children had received soy formula in infancy as
compared to non-diabetic children. [18]

Recognizing the risk, Swiss health authorities recommend "very
restrictive use" of soy for babies. In England and Australia, public
health agencies tell parents to first seek advice from a doctor before
giving their infants soy formula. The New Zealand Ministry of Health
recommends that "Soy formula should only be used under the direction of
a health professional for specific medical indications. . . Clinicians
who are treating children with a soy-based infant formula for medical
conditions should be aware of the potential interaction between soy
infant formula and thyroid function." [19]

Thyroid hormones exert their influence during discrete windows of time.
Inappropriate hormone levels can have a devastating effect on the
developing human brain, especially during the first 12 weeks of
pregnancy when the fetus depends on the mother's thyroid hormones for
brain development. After that, both maternal and fetal thyroid hormone
levels affect the central nervous system.

A 1999 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine showed
that pregnant women with underactive thyroids were four times more
likely to have children with low IQs if the disorder is left untreated.
The study found that 19% of the children born to mothers with thyroid
deficiency had IQ scores of 85 or lower, compared with only 5% of those
born to mothers without such problems. [20]

Thyroid, Brain, and Environmental Toxins

Children exposed prenatally and during infancy to common environmental
toxins like dioxin and polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) can suffer
behavioral, learning, and memory problems because these chemicals may be
disrupting the normal action of thyroid hormone. [21]

Combinations of insecticides, weed killers, and artificial fertilizers
-- even at low levels -- have measurable detrimental effects on thyroid
and other hormones as well as on the brain. [24] EPA scientists now want
to upgrade the commonly used herbicide, atrazine, to a "likely
carcinogen." In animal tests, atrazine attaches to sites on the
hypothalamus, a crucial brain region involved with regulating levels of
stress and sex hormones. [25]

Individuals newly diagnosed with Parkinson's disease were more than
twice as likely to have been exposed to insecticides in their home,
compared to those without the disease. [26]

Soy formulas for infants can contain other neurotoxins: aluminum,
cadmium, and fluoride. Studies found that aluminum concentrations in
soy-based formulas were a 100-fold greater compared to human breast
milk, while cadmium content was 8-15 times higher than in milk-based
formulas. In an Australian study, the fluoride content of soy-based
formulas ranged from 1.08 to 2.86 parts per million. The authors
concluded that "prolonged consumption (beyond 12 months of age) of
infant formula reconstituted with optimally-fluoridated water could
result in excessive amounts of fluoride being ingested." A study of
Connecticut children revealed that mild-to-moderate fluorosis was
strongly associated with soy-based infant formula use. [27-30]

In May 2000, Boston Physicians for Social Responsibility released their
report, "The Toxic Threats to Child Development." In the section on
neurotoxins, they concluded: "Studies in animals and human populations
suggest that fluoride exposure, at levels that are experienced by a
significant proportion of the population whose drinking water is
fluoridated, may have adverse impacts on the developing brain." [31]

From: http://www.mercola.com/2000/sep/17/soy_brain.htm

--
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

- Epicurus

<enormous propagandist fundaMENTAListic bullshit snipped>






problem with you is the free time capacity, too much of it with too
little inspiration to fill it creatively.

freaking fundamentalist.




( you voted for bush didn't ya? both times?)

ges wrote:
> <enormous propagandist fundaMENTAListic bullshit snipped>
>
> problem with you is the free time capacity, too much of it with too
> little inspiration to fill it creatively.

Better to have some free time than no time at all, working for minimum
wage, right?

Heh.

> freaking fundamentalist.

You sound like a generic composite of hate

> ( you voted for bush didn't ya? both times?)

If it offends you... then yes, definitely.


--
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

- Epicurus

<the meatatarian vibrates themselves to death of very images of g.w.
bush picking his nose endlessly for the greater of inhumane kind, blow
up the world turn it into a glass ball ladies and gents.. yeh that's
right all the xians will go to heaven the rest will be left behind!
yay!>
>
> If it offends you... then yes, definitely.




another waste of sperm going on taking up bandwidth.. keep abortion
legal folks.

"ges" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> <the meatatarian vibrates themselves to death of very images of g.w.
> bush picking his nose endlessly for the greater of inhumane kind, blow
> up the world turn it into a glass ball ladies and gents.. yeh that's
> right all the xians will go to heaven the rest will be left behind!
> yay!>
> >
> > If it offends you... then yes, definitely.
>
> another waste of sperm going on taking up bandwidth.. keep abortion
> legal folks.
>

And then there's Ronald Reagan when he finished his food quick-sharp because
he was so hungry and his son, Nancy, sorry, his wife, asked him, "Would you
like some more, Ron?"

He replied, "No aaahh thanks. With this aaahh Altzheimers I'll *be* one
soon!"

Nemo