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Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to like those from
Japan more than those from China or visa versa? (Or maybe someone has a real liking for a green from somewhere else..Korea, Vietnam, Ceylon, Assam even I think.. I have tried sencha and gyokuro multiple times and for some reason they just don't satisfy me as much as Chinese greens of almost any type do, right now. But I like Genmai cha, which is a bit different... I'm interested in hearing what others' experiences are. -- "The country has entered an era in which questions are not asked, for questions are daughters of disquiet or arrogance, both fruits of temptation and the food of sacrilege." Djaout |
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Melinda wrote:
> Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to like those from > Japan more than those from China or visa versa? (Or maybe someone has a real > liking for a green from somewhere else..Korea, Vietnam, Ceylon, Assam even I > think.. I have tried sencha and gyokuro multiple times and for some reason > they just don't satisfy me as much as Chinese greens of almost any type do, > right now. But I like Genmai cha, which is a bit different... > > I'm interested in hearing what others' experiences are. > I'm a fan of Chinese myself; I've found Japanese teas a bit too vegetal for my taste. |
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"Melinda" > wrote: > Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to like those from > Japan more than those from China or visa versa? china, mos' def. i love good japan sencha and gyokuro, but the thing about japan is that there's just not the variety there is in china greens. they steam most, if not all, of their teas, which gives them a certain similarity. they don't make an oolong or a black - i wonder why not. anyway, china has so many varieties of green tea, i don't think you could try them all in one lifetime......p* |
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I'm on the Japanese side of the fence. While I really enjoy the Chinese
greens, there is something that really connects with me in the Japanese greens. The bad ones are some of the worst teas I've ever had, but the good ones....Aaah! Blues |
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![]() Melinda wrote: > Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to > like those from Japan more than those from China or visa versa? > Just Japanese for me. Occasionally I flirt with a Chinese green, and while sometimes a pleasant diversion, they never match the bright, live flavor I admire in Japanese greens. --crymad |
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![]() "Melinda" > wrote in message ... > Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to like those from > Japan more than those from China or visa versa? (Or maybe someone has a real > liking for a green from somewhere else..Korea, Vietnam, Ceylon, Assam even I > think.. I have tried sencha and gyokuro multiple times and for some reason > they just don't satisfy me as much as Chinese greens of almost any type do, > right now. But I like Genmai cha, which is a bit different... > > I'm interested in hearing what others' experiences are. Yes, I tend towards the China greens myself and want a sencha on rare occasion, but I recently compared a China sencha with a Japanese sencha and the Japanese won beyond a shadow of a doubt. Couldn't finish the bancha that I tried - way too intense for me. -- ~~Bluesea~~ Spam is great in musubi but not in email. Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply. |
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![]() "Bluesea" > wrote in message ... > > "Melinda" > wrote in message > ... >> Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to like those > from >> Japan more than those from China or visa versa? (Or maybe someone has a > real >> liking for a green from somewhere else..Korea, Vietnam, Ceylon, Assam >> even > I >> think.. I have tried sencha and gyokuro multiple times and for some > reason >> they just don't satisfy me as much as Chinese greens of almost any type > do, >> right now. But I like Genmai cha, which is a bit different... >> >> I'm interested in hearing what others' experiences are. > > Yes, I tend towards the China greens myself and want a sencha on rare > occasion, but I recently compared a China sencha with a Japanese sencha > and > the Japanese won beyond a shadow of a doubt. Couldn't finish the bancha > that > I tried - way too intense for me. > > -- > ~~Bluesea~~ I'm sure they exist, but I have yet to try a Chinese Sencha that I cared to have a second cup of. I even got a couple of ounces of an organic Chinese Sencha for free. It hasn't seen much use. I didn't care for the Bancha's I've tried either. Though I haven't tried many. Blues |
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It's odd that you mention that, because recently my tea tastes have
been changing. While I used to prefer Chinese green tea (not much for Chinese black though), I find myself drinking more and more Japanese tea. I never disliked Japanese tea, but it seems that the same characteristics that I used to not be impressed with are the reason I drink more of it now; very pure, bright green flavors. |
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I do feel that there is a wide variety of Japanese greens around.
However, the name of Japanese tea usually only refers to the way in which it has been cultivated and processed (sencha /kabuse-cha /gyokuro/ hojicha), and not to the unique characteristics of the tea itself. Whereas all senchas have the same name, they have a significant diversity in flavour. I do not have a preference for either Japanese or Chinese greens, but I tend to drink Japanese greens during working hours (100g a week, I am addicted) and Chinese greens/oolongs (mostly oolongs) outside those hours. Indeed, Japanese greens have this vegetal freshness, whereas Chinese greens tend to be more complex. Cheers, Erwin |
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![]() "Blues Lyne" > wrote in message ... > > I'm sure they exist, but I have yet to try a Chinese Sencha that I cared to > have a second cup of. I even got a couple of ounces of an organic Chinese > Sencha for free. It hasn't seen much use. I didn't care for the Bancha's > I've tried either. Though I haven't tried many. Whatever you do, don't ever try to "fix" a cherry-flavored bancha and try to make it cherry-vanilla by adding vanilla extract. <gag!> -- ~~Bluesea~~ "What was I thinking?!" Spam is great in musubi but not in email. Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply. |
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Melinda wrote:
> Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to like those from > Japan more than those from China or visa versa? (Or maybe someone has a real > liking for a green from somewhere else..Korea, Vietnam, Ceylon, Assam even I > think.. I have tried sencha and gyokuro multiple times and for some reason > they just don't satisfy me as much as Chinese greens of almost any type do, > right now. But I like Genmai cha, which is a bit different... > > I'm interested in hearing what others' experiences are. > Hi Melinda-- I tend to gravitate towards Chinese greens too. There seems to be a broader range of flavors available in Chinese teas, and in my limited experience they usually are more forgiving. I usually find they're less expensive, too...bad sencha is cheap, but I can get a nice Chinese tea for a low price. There's very expensive Chinese teas out there too, but you know what I mean. I do like keeping a nice sencha on hand. I find myself especially drawn to it right now, when my instincts are waiting impatiently for Spring to come. Right now I'm also craving salads and other fresh foods that I haven't wanted all winter, and I'm guessing that's related to my sencha cravings. Jennifer |
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![]() Blues Lyne wrote: > I'm sure they exist, but I have yet to try a Chinese Sencha > that I cared to have a second cup of. Perhaps they exist, but my position is a resounding "why bother? -- Japanese Sencha adequately succeeds on that count, so no need to look further. --crymad |
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Hey Crymad,
I finally found a sweet floral delicate Fuji yabukita sencha $8/100g in a pop top tin can. A green tea anyone should enjoy. Absolutely no grassy stringent taste. Comparing the teas from both countries is apples and oranges. For those new to green tea you still can't go wrong with a Chinese Pi Lo Chun or Lung Ching which is more easily available. Jim crymad wrote: > Melinda wrote: > > Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to > > like those from Japan more than those from China or visa versa? > > > Just Japanese for me. Occasionally I flirt with a Chinese green, > and while sometimes a pleasant diversion, they never match the > bright, live flavor I admire in Japanese greens. > > --crymad |
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pilo_ > writes:
> In article >, > "Melinda" > wrote: > > > Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to like > > those from Japan more than those from China or visa versa? > > china, mos' def. i love good japan sencha and gyokuro, > but the thing about japan is that there's just not the variety > there is in china greens. they steam most, if not all, of their > teas, which gives them a certain similarity. they don't make an > oolong or a black - i wonder why not. anyway, china has so many > varieties > of green tea, i don't think you could try them all in one > lifetime......p* I prefer not to choose between Chinese and Japanese greens - I love the good ones from both sides of the water - but I do agree that Chinese greens are far more varied. /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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i enjoy korean greens the best-i usually purchase mine from shan shui teas
or franchia joanne "The Laughing Rat" > wrote in message nk.net... > Melinda wrote: >> Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to like those >> from Japan more than those from China or visa versa? (Or maybe someone >> has a real liking for a green from somewhere else..Korea, Vietnam, >> Ceylon, Assam even I think.. I have tried sencha and gyokuro multiple >> times and for some reason they just don't satisfy me as much as Chinese >> greens of almost any type do, right now. But I like Genmai cha, which is >> a bit different... >> >> I'm interested in hearing what others' experiences are. >> > > Hi Melinda-- > > I tend to gravitate towards Chinese greens too. There seems to be a > broader range of flavors available in Chinese teas, and in my limited > experience they usually are more forgiving. I usually find they're less > expensive, too...bad sencha is cheap, but I can get a nice Chinese tea for > a low price. There's very expensive Chinese teas out there too, but you > know what I mean. > > I do like keeping a nice sencha on hand. I find myself especially drawn > to it right now, when my instincts are waiting impatiently for Spring to > come. Right now I'm also craving salads and other fresh foods that I > haven't wanted all winter, and I'm guessing that's related to my sencha > cravings. > > Jennifer |
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Joanne Rosen wrote:
> i enjoy korean greens the best-i usually purchase mine from shan shui teas > or franchia > joanne Hi Joanne--I've been curious about Korean greens but somewhat intimidated by price (caveat: I've only encountered expensive ones, so maybe there's a whole price-range I'm unaware of). Do Korean teas differ significantly in taste from, say, Chinese teas? Thanks, Jennifer |
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"Bluesea" > wrote: > Yes, I tend towards the China greens myself and want a sencha on rare > occasion, but I recently compared a China sencha with a Japanese sencha and > the Japanese won beyond a shadow of a doubt. Couldn't finish the bancha that > I tried - way too intense for me. i've tried china sencha as well - my enthusiasm was well under control. of course, the japanese have been producing steam tea for a looong time. bancha is late season roughage - generally not a great tea.......p* |
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![]() "The Laughing Rat" > wrote in message nk.net... > > I tend to gravitate towards Chinese greens too. There seems to be a > broader range of flavors available in Chinese teas, and in my limited > experience they usually are more forgiving. I found Temple of Heaven gunpowder to be very unforgiving. Altering the time, temperature, or amount by even a little meant it was condemned to be poured down the drain, it was so bad. My 2¢. -- ~~Bluesea~~ Spam is great in musubi but not in email. Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply. |
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Lol, is that from personal experience?? Heeheehee......
Melinda "Bluesea" > wrote in message ... > > Whatever you do, don't ever try to "fix" a cherry-flavored bancha and try > to > make it cherry-vanilla by adding vanilla extract. <gag!> > > -- > ~~Bluesea~~ "What was I thinking?!" > Spam is great in musubi but not in email. > Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply. > > |
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Bluesea wrote:
> > > I found Temple of Heaven gunpowder to be very unforgiving. Altering the > time, temperature, or amount by even a little meant it was condemned to be > poured down the drain, it was so bad. > > My 2¢. > I'm not a big fan of gunpowder, really. I know a lot of folks enjoy it--the entire country of Morocco, for instance--but to me it is far from the best tea China has to offer. A friend recommended some gunpowder from a vendor I like and trust. I also like and trust the friend, so I picked some up. Haven't tried it yet. Supposedly it's good; at the price, it won't break my heart if it isn't! Jennifer |
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<red-faced>
What can I say? There's vanilla-flavored tea and I like to add vanilla to rooibos and then there's cherry vanilla Coke... -- ~~Bluesea~~ "Sometimes, I amaze myself." Spam is great in musubi but not in email. Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply. "Melinda" > wrote in message ... > Lol, is that from personal experience?? Heeheehee...... > > Melinda > > > "Bluesea" > wrote in message > ... > > > > > Whatever you do, don't ever try to "fix" a cherry-flavored bancha and try > > to > > make it cherry-vanilla by adding vanilla extract. <gag!> > > > > -- > > ~~Bluesea~~ "What was I thinking?!" > > Spam is great in musubi but not in email. > > Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply. |
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yes, most of the korean greens are more expensive but worth the extra
price-at the above mentioned websites korean greens are also available at lower costs at han ah reum a food chain specializing in korean foods, etc my experience with chinese greens is more limited- "The Laughing Rat" > wrote in message nk.net... > Joanne Rosen wrote: >> i enjoy korean greens the best-i usually purchase mine from shan shui >> teas or franchia >> joanne > > Hi Joanne--I've been curious about Korean greens but somewhat intimidated > by price (caveat: I've only encountered expensive ones, so maybe there's a > whole price-range I'm unaware of). Do Korean teas differ significantly in > taste from, say, Chinese teas? > > Thanks, > > Jennifer |
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The only Korean green tea I've seen at my local Korean store is in bags, so
I passed it by. But I have a friend who's going to Korean this summer and I'll be making a request. ![]() green tea? Any good tea houses etc? THanks in advance, and thanks for mentioning it Joanne. Melinda -- "The country has entered an era in which questions are not asked, for questions are daughters of disquiet or arrogance, both fruits of temptation and the food of sacrilege." Djaout "Joanne Rosen" > wrote in message ... > yes, most of the korean greens are more expensive but worth the extra > price-at the above mentioned websites > korean greens are also available at lower costs at han ah reum a food > chain specializing in korean foods, etc > > my experience with chinese greens is more limited- > "The Laughing Rat" > wrote in message > nk.net... >> Joanne Rosen wrote: >>> i enjoy korean greens the best-i usually purchase mine from shan shui >>> teas or franchia >>> joanne >> >> Hi Joanne--I've been curious about Korean greens but somewhat intimidated >> by price (caveat: I've only encountered expensive ones, so maybe there's >> a whole price-range I'm unaware of). Do Korean teas differ significantly >> in taste from, say, Chinese teas? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jennifer > > |
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chinese. japanese all taste the same to me.
"Melinda" > wrote in message ... > Do people who like green tea here find themselves tending to like those from > Japan more than those from China or visa versa? (Or maybe someone has a real > liking for a green from somewhere else..Korea, Vietnam, Ceylon, Assam even I > think.. I have tried sencha and gyokuro multiple times and for some reason > they just don't satisfy me as much as Chinese greens of almost any type do, > right now. But I like Genmai cha, which is a bit different... > > I'm interested in hearing what others' experiences are. > > -- > "The country has entered an era in which > questions are not asked, for questions are > daughters of disquiet or arrogance, both > fruits of temptation and the food of sacrilege." Djaout > > |
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Major Korean department stores all have a wide variety of Korean teas
on sale in the tea sections of their food departments (invariably one of the basement level floors). Assuming your friend is visiting Seoul, she could explore the Lotte Department Store in Myong Dong (central Seoul and the city's main shopping area). Many Korean green teas are similar to Japanese green teas, and some are made from Japanese tea plants and processed Japanese-style. However you can also find exquisite hand-made teas produced using traditional techniques in very old tea gardens that are part of Buddhist temples. These can be very expensive, partly because the volumes made are quite small - but they are much closer to Korea's tea making traditions than many other offerings. There are also inexpensive blends of green tea with barley or other grains - these are often imported from China. David |
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![]() "Melinda" > wrote in message > The only Korean green tea I've seen at my local Korean store is in bags, so > I passed it by. But I have a friend who's going to Korean this summer and > I'll be making a request. ![]() get > green tea? Any good tea houses etc? There are a lot of small tea houses in fashionable areas of Seoul, Pusan and probably any other city. They serve tea with a sweet and also sell teaware and tea leaves. It's nice to buy there or just go to relax. Anyway, their tea leaves are expensive as they only produce higher grades in limited quantities, and the rest systematically becomes tea bags or is mixed as genmaicha. Many times, I have seen cheaper teas, but when I asked, the shopkeeper has explained me it was imported. Many of the "teas" the Korean drink are herbals. In spice markets, she can find thousands of medicinal tisanes and spice mixes to prepare the dessert drinks (like ginger or cinnamon flavored ones) that help you to digest after excesses of Korean food. Tell her to also get chesnut tea (there's no tea inside) in a supermarket (or in the Lotte duty free shop if she goes there). It's in bags and cheap, I buy tons of that each time I go to Korea, it's a great evening tisane. Kuri |
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Excellent, thank you both!
Melinda "kilburn" > wrote in message ups.com... > Major Korean department stores all have a wide variety of Korean teas > on sale in the tea sections of their food departments (invariably one > of the basement level floors). Assuming your friend is visiting Seoul, > she could explore the Lotte Department Store in Myong Dong (central > Seoul and the city's main shopping area). > Many Korean green teas are similar to Japanese green teas, and some are > made from Japanese tea plants and processed Japanese-style. > However you can also find exquisite hand-made teas produced using > traditional techniques in very old tea gardens that are part of > Buddhist temples. These can be very expensive, partly because the > volumes made are quite small - but they are much closer to Korea's tea > making traditions than many other offerings. > There are also inexpensive blends of green tea with barley or other > grains - these are often imported from China. > > David > "There are a lot of small tea houses in fashionable areas of Seoul, Pusan and probably any other city. They serve tea with a sweet and also sell teaware and tea leaves. It's nice to buy there or just go to relax. Anyway, their tea leaves are expensive as they only produce higher grades in limited quantities, and the rest systematically becomes tea bags or is mixed as genmaicha. Many times, I have seen cheaper teas, but when I asked, the shopkeeper has explained me it was imported. Many of the "teas" the Korean drink are herbals. In spice markets, she can find thousands of medicinal tisanes and spice mixes to prepare the dessert drinks (like ginger or cinnamon flavored ones) that help you to digest after excesses of Korean food. Tell her to also get chesnut tea (there's no tea inside) in a supermarket (or in the Lotte duty free shop if she goes there). It's in bags and cheap, I buy tons of that each time I go to Korea, it's a great evening tisane. Kuri" |
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Japanese green teas seem to have a brightness about them. I find
Chinese teas in general somehow smoky. Bancha is an acquired taste, I think, like Puarh, but most all Japanese senchas are mild. Japanese senchas depend greatly on where they are grown and have drastically different qualities. Yabukita is a popular favorite. I bought a nice sumibiyaki (literally "coal fired") sencha in Shizuoka a few months ago. I highly recommend Sayamacha for its sweet taste. Tea is grown in nearly every prefecture up to Tohoku and there is such a variety it is hard to grow tired of it. Even gyokuro or matcha is different based on where it is grown. Japanese green teas are simply a part of life like the air that people breathe here. It is a wonderfully light transition entering that lifestyle. Rufus Firefly Tokyo |
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![]() "crymad" > wrote in message ... > > > Blues Lyne wrote: >> I'm sure they exist, but I have yet to try a Chinese Sencha >> that I cared to have a second cup of. > > Perhaps they exist, but my position is a resounding "why bother? > -- Japanese Sencha adequately succeeds on that count, so no need > to look further. > > --crymad I agree whole heartedly. The last batch I got was a freebie that came with a purchase of a gaiwan. It was their top, organic, Chinese Sencha. I tend to be a bit more forgiving with free tea, but it might as well have been packaging material. Blues |
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![]() "Bluesea" > wrote in message ... > > "Blues Lyne" > wrote in message > ... >> >> I'm sure they exist, but I have yet to try a Chinese Sencha that I cared > to >> have a second cup of. I even got a couple of ounces of an organic > Chinese >> Sencha for free. It hasn't seen much use. I didn't care for the > Bancha's >> I've tried either. Though I haven't tried many. > > Whatever you do, don't ever try to "fix" a cherry-flavored bancha and try > to > make it cherry-vanilla by adding vanilla extract. <gag!> > > -- > ~~Bluesea~~ "What was I thinking?!" > Spam is great in musubi but not in email. > Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply. > > |
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