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Melinda
 
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Default That tea "thermos" with the strainer...

Some time back people on here were talking about that "tea thermos" that
Yellow Mountain imports is selling on E-bay, well, I bought one at my local
tea shop today (don't know where they got it but it's the same one, the
smaller one) and it's very very spiffy. I resteeped TGY in it all day and
it's surprising how easy it is to get hot water for a refill. Doesn't spill
either, the top screws on. And it's small enough to fit in my shoulder bag.
So...I stand corrected and, more importantly, correctable..

Melinda

P.S. in case there is someone reading this who doesn't know what I'm talking
about, YMI is selling one at this link so you can look...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7225 489&rd=1




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"Melinda" > wrote in message
...
> Some time back people on here were talking about that "tea thermos" that
> Yellow Mountain imports is selling on E-bay, well, I bought one at my

local
> tea shop today (don't know where they got it but it's the same one, the
> smaller one) and it's very very spiffy. I resteeped TGY in it all day and
> it's surprising how easy it is to get hot water for a refill. Doesn't

spill
> either, the top screws on. And it's small enough to fit in my shoulder

bag.
> So...I stand corrected and, more importantly, correctable..
>
> Melinda
>
> P.S. in case there is someone reading this who doesn't know what I'm

talking
> about, YMI is selling one at this link so you can look...
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7225 489&rd=1

My wife was looking for something like that and found one from Nissan.
http://tinyurl.com/3obat
She loves it. She say it keeps tea hot all day.
It comes with an infuser and a travel lid.
It was the only one we could find without getting one on ebay.

Mike


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Well those look nice but doesn't steeping your tea all day get a little
bitter?


"Melinda" > wrote in message
...
> Some time back people on here were talking about that "tea thermos" that
> Yellow Mountain imports is selling on E-bay, well, I bought one at my

local
> tea shop today (don't know where they got it but it's the same one, the
> smaller one) and it's very very spiffy. I resteeped TGY in it all day and
> it's surprising how easy it is to get hot water for a refill. Doesn't

spill
> either, the top screws on. And it's small enough to fit in my shoulder

bag.
> So...I stand corrected and, more importantly, correctable..
>
> Melinda
>
> P.S. in case there is someone reading this who doesn't know what I'm

talking
> about, YMI is selling one at this link so you can look...
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7225 489&rd=1
>
>
>
>
> Not Affiliated etc.
> --
> "The country has entered an era in which
> questions are not asked, for questions are
> daughters of disquiet or arrogance, both
> fruits of temptation and the food of sacrilege." Djaout
>
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That was the same question I had about them at the start, Falky, but I am
not seeming to have a problem with this TGY...I am using somewhat cooler
water though. Meaning it's not at a full rolling boil for the first steep
(nor is it supposed to be I know...I err on the cooler side though). And
resteeps are getting thinner but they're still there. I don't know that
you'd get a "perfect" cup of tea but it beats being without it all day.

Also, I am being somewhat daring in my steeping these days...I left some TGY
in a glass with cool water on the counter overnight and drank it this
morning. This particular TGY is getting somewhat bitter for me, and I think
I shouldn't have left it so long, but still it was drinkable to me.

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"Falky foo" > wrote in message
...
> Well those look nice but doesn't steeping your tea all day get a little
> bitter?
>
>
> "Melinda" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Some time back people on here were talking about that "tea thermos" that
>> Yellow Mountain imports is selling on E-bay, well, I bought one at my

> local
>> tea shop today (don't know where they got it but it's the same one, the
>> smaller one) and it's very very spiffy. I resteeped TGY in it all day and
>> it's surprising how easy it is to get hot water for a refill. Doesn't

> spill
>> either, the top screws on. And it's small enough to fit in my shoulder

> bag.
>> So...I stand corrected and, more importantly, correctable..
>>
>> Melinda
>>
>> P.S. in case there is someone reading this who doesn't know what I'm

> talking
>> about, YMI is selling one at this link so you can look...
>>
>>

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7225 489&rd=1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Not Affiliated etc.
>> --
>> "The country has entered an era in which
>> questions are not asked, for questions are
>> daughters of disquiet or arrogance, both
>> fruits of temptation and the food of sacrilege." Djaout
>>
>>

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I have been using one to take puer to work for the last 3 months. I
avoid the bitterness of oversteeping by starting out the first fill
with lower temperature water. I then find that the hot water out of
the water cooler is sufficient. This method is working great for Puer.

Mike

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:01:18 -0800, "Melinda" > cast
caution to the wind and posted:

>That was the same question I had about them at the start, Falky, but I am
>not seeming to have a problem with this TGY...I am using somewhat cooler
>water though. Meaning it's not at a full rolling boil for the first steep
>(nor is it supposed to be I know...I err on the cooler side though). And
>resteeps are getting thinner but they're still there. I don't know that
>you'd get a "perfect" cup of tea but it beats being without it all day.
>
>Also, I am being somewhat daring in my steeping these days...I left some TGY
>in a glass with cool water on the counter overnight and drank it this
>morning. This particular TGY is getting somewhat bitter for me, and I think
>I shouldn't have left it so long, but still it was drinkable to me.



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"Melinda" > wrote in message
...
> Some time back people on here were talking about that "tea thermos" that
> Yellow Mountain imports is selling on E-bay, well, I bought one at my

local
> tea shop today (don't know where they got it but it's the same one, the
> smaller one) and it's very very spiffy. I resteeped TGY in it all day and
> it's surprising how easy it is to get hot water for a refill. Doesn't

spill
> either, the top screws on. And it's small enough to fit in my shoulder

bag.
> So...I stand corrected and, more importantly, correctable..
>
> Melinda
>
> P.S. in case there is someone reading this who doesn't know what I'm

talking
> about, YMI is selling one at this link so you can look...
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7225 489&rd=1

Do small leaf particles drift through?

I found this Bodum at a local store yesterday and was doubtful because of
the size of the mesh and because I like a clean tea such as is produced by
Teeli and Chatsford baskets and very fine strainers.

Then, there was the message. On the side, it said either something like,
"Give up bad TEA for good" or "Give up bad COFFEE for good."

http://www.bodumusa.com/shop/line.as...LID=9&CHK=&SLT

Towards the bottom of the webpage, there are two other styles in
14 and 16 oz w/o the printed message that I'm considering more seriously.

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"Mike Petro" > wrote in message
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> I have been using one to take puer to work for the last 3 months. I
> avoid the bitterness of oversteeping by starting out the first fill
> with lower temperature water. I then find that the hot water out of
> the water cooler is sufficient. This method is working great for Puer.


You know, that means that restaurant water isn't so bad - all we have to do
is take our own green tea or whatever else that does well at temps < boiling
hot.


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"Melinda" > wrote in message
...
>
> P.S. in case there is someone reading this who doesn't know what I'm

talking
> about, YMI is selling one at this link so you can look...
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7225 489&rd=1

According to the pic, the website is fuguangchina.com, but I can't find
exactly the same thing:

http://www.fuguangchina.com/products/index.asp.

I wonder if it's NOS (new old stock) on clearance or something.

I like that there's no press rod sticking up until the tea is brewed and no
infuser to remove after steeping.

"...not available at all in the United States." Hmm...

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If I was getting anything it would be their Yixing thermos. I enjoy
shopping Asian stores. Yesterday I saw a tall cylindrical glass ice
tea pot made to fit a refrigerator door. It was a spectacular teapot
in its own right. I have the same shape in a double walled stainless
steel thermos which fits nicely in the pants pockets for walking. It
has a push down button on the cap to pour the tea into the lid. It
doesn't clog even with fines. I hope US retailers are paying attention
because Chinese consumerism also means they are selling to us.

Jim

Melinda wrote:
> Some time back people on here were talking about that "tea thermos"

that
> Yellow Mountain imports is selling on E-bay, well, I bought one at my

local
> tea shop today (don't know where they got it but it's the same one,

the
> smaller one) and it's very very spiffy. I resteeped TGY in it all day

and
> it's surprising how easy it is to get hot water for a refill. Doesn't

spill
> either, the top screws on. And it's small enough to fit in my

shoulder bag.
> So...I stand corrected and, more importantly, correctable..
>
> Melinda
>
> P.S. in case there is someone reading this who doesn't know what I'm

talking
> about, YMI is selling one at this link so you can look...
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7225 489&rd=1

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In the case of the thermos I got yesterday, I am using long jing and other
greens and large oolongs in it right now and I don't see any particles
coming through, but I haven't tried it with, say, roobois (and I'm not
gonna...getting that taste out is tough for me). But I don't expect it would
be horrible, though it might allow "dust" through.

I have two Bodums, they are my ole reliables every day for black teas. The
do allow some very fine almost dust to come through, but that all settles at
the bottom of the pot anyhow and doesn't make it into my cup. I love em.
They do, however, allow the tea to cool off quicker than some people might
like...you could always get a cozy for it or wrap a towel around it (what I
do if I am caring at that time).

I haven't tried a Chatsford yet...I may get one but it won't be soon, I
don't really collect teaware I am utilitarian about my tea drinking right
now.

Melinda


> Do small leaf particles drift through?
>
> I found this Bodum at a local store yesterday and was doubtful because of
> the size of the mesh and because I like a clean tea such as is produced by
> Teeli and Chatsford baskets and very fine strainers.
>
> Then, there was the message. On the side, it said either something like,
> "Give up bad TEA for good" or "Give up bad COFFEE for good."
>
> http://www.bodumusa.com/shop/line.as...LID=9&CHK=&SLT
>
> Towards the bottom of the webpage, there are two other styles in
> 14 and 16 oz w/o the printed message that I'm considering more seriously.
>
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Precisely my point...I can fill my green tea up from the hot water tap
mostly if I need to. And people so far have not minded giving me hot water.
I didn't get the thermos for black teas, I drink those with milk and sugar
anyhow. .

I wouldn't call it necessarily appropriate for a concentrated tea drinking
episode where one is drinking very fine teas and wants to do it
perfectly...but it certainly makes me very happy being able to take green
teas or oolongs along with me where I go, very happy indeed. Have you SEEN
how much those cans of unsweetened green tea go for in the markets? Over a
buck....I'll bring my own.

Also, on the "doesn't it get bitter" front...using a gaiwan lets the green
tea get bitter towards the bottom anyhow..this is similar in that it only
holds something like 10 ounces (I'm eyeballing here) so you do have to
refill often but you drink it up quick too.

And on the "bush in my pot" front...yeah, my TGY looked like that in my tea
glass yesterday...lol, I was out and about and I could imagine what it must
look like to people who weren't sure what it was. It looked like some sort
of large kelp....very bushy. (That's the TGY I mentioned a long time ago,
Butterfly brand in a brownish tin at the Aisian markets, kinda pricy and
gets very bitter quickly when I use too much in my Yixing...but seems OK at
a lighter amount in my glass.)

Melinda

> You know, that means that restaurant water isn't so bad - all we have to
> do
> is take our own green tea or whatever else that does well at temps <
> boiling
> hot.
>
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"Melinda" > writes:

> [...]
>
> Also, on the "doesn't it get bitter" front...using a gaiwan lets the
> green tea get bitter towards the bottom anyhow..


Some of us, at least, use a gaiwan to brew the tea, and pour off the
liquor when it's done. But I take your point: not all of us do that.

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Yeah I understand, but I've recently (couple of months ago) gotten my first
gaiwan and what I have been doing is steeping and drinking from it all at
once, so that was where I was coming from (I know you know that). Also, if
you wanted to, you could brew in this thermos (I need another name for
this...it's not really a thermos and anyway isn't "thermos" a registered
trademark or something?) and pour it into another cup very easily because of
the screen. I'm not trying to sell more of these things by the way,
lol...whatever works for a person is what they should get and it's not the
same for everybody.

Melinda

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"Lewis Perin" > wrote in message
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> "Melinda" > writes:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> Also, on the "doesn't it get bitter" front...using a gaiwan lets the
>> green tea get bitter towards the bottom anyhow..

>
> Some of us, at least, use a gaiwan to brew the tea, and pour off the
> liquor when it's done. But I take your point: not all of us do that.
>
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"Melinda" > wrote in message
...
> Yeah I understand, but I've recently (couple of months ago) gotten my

first
> gaiwan and what I have been doing is steeping and drinking from it all at
> once, so that was where I was coming from (I know you know that). Also, if
> you wanted to, you could brew in this thermos (I need another name for
> this...it's not really a thermos and anyway isn't "thermos" a registered
> trademark or something?)


I think so, but if I ask you to hand me a Kleenex you'll go ahead and reach
for the Puffs right next to you, right?

> and pour it into another cup very easily because of
> the screen. I'm not trying to sell more of these things by the way,
> lol...whatever works for a person is what they should get and it's not the
> same for everybody.


Right, but the point is that with this traveler, we can have tea w/o fuss
and bother by virtue of multiple infusions - simply measure the tea at home
and then get hot water to refill at any desired interval throughout the
day - right? Isn't it the KISS Principle: simply remove the cap to sip or
refill? No rods sticking up like with the Bodum press or infusers to remove
like with the Nissan, etc.

As for bitterness, over an hour ago, I put 2+ tsp. of lung ching in a 2-cup
Pyrex w/ 16 oz of <160F water. I'm still sipping it and it still tastes fine
(although my teeth aren't very good as a strainer - ptui!) which makes me
wonder if that statement on Wikipedia about green tea not releasing tannins
isn't correct under the right circumstances.

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"Melinda" > wrote in message
...
>
> In the case of the thermos I got yesterday, I am using long jing and other
> greens and large oolongs in it right now and I don't see any particles
> coming through,


Sounds good.

> but I haven't tried it with, say, roobois (and I'm not
> gonna...


Yes, rooibos is a tough one.

> getting that taste out is tough for me). But I don't expect it would
> be horrible, though it might allow "dust" through.
>
> I have two Bodums, they are my ole reliables every day for black teas. The
> do allow some very fine almost dust to come through, but that all settles

at
> the bottom of the pot anyhow and doesn't make it into my cup. I love em.
> They do, however, allow the tea to cool off quicker than some people might
> like...you could always get a cozy for it or wrap a towel around it (what

I
> do if I am caring at that time).
>
> I haven't tried a Chatsford yet...I may get one but it won't be soon, I
> don't really collect teaware I am utilitarian about my tea drinking right
> now.


I think the easiest/least costly way to try a Chatsford is to get a mug
basket - relatively inexpensive at $5.60 (Upton) and it can be used with
various ware. My first infusion basket was Republic of Teas and it was a
mistake because it's too small, doesn't have a rim ledge to prevent it from
sinking into all but the short standard cup, doesn't have a tab for easy
removal so must be fished out with a spoon or something, and has major seams
to which leaf particles cling tenaciously. IMaggravatedO, it was a total
waste at >$4.50.

> > Do small leaf particles drift through?


Thanks, I'll have to think about it more, but this is looking more like what
I need than the others I've seen.

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"Mike Petro" > wrote in message
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> I have been using one to take puer to work for the last 3 months.


Where did you buy yours?

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Is the leaf still attached to the stem? I've got plenty of whole leaf
tea such as souchong which will bloat up like the Incredible Hulk but I
like the bushy look with the stem. Also so I can get a feel for the
oxidation level do the leaves infuse lite or dark green?

Jim

Melinda wrote:
....Google never forgets...
> And on the "bush in my pot" front...yeah, my TGY looked like that in

my tea
> glass yesterday...lol, I was out and about and I could imagine what

it must
> look like to people who weren't sure what it was. It looked like some

sort
> of large kelp....very bushy. (That's the TGY I mentioned a long time

ago,
> Butterfly brand in a brownish tin at the Aisian markets, kinda pricy

and
> gets very bitter quickly when I use too much in my Yixing...but seems

OK at
> a lighter amount in my glass.)
>
> Melinda


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I got mine from a friend in China, it cost me about $5. It is my
understanding that this is a common everyday "travel" cup in China. I
am told that it is the cup of choice for Taxi Drivers etc. They are
made by dozens of companies and are of various qualties.

I sure have been happy with mine. There was a small learning curve but
I have used it 5 days a week ever since I got it. If it ever breaks I
will buy 2 or 3 more of them.

Mike


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> "Mike Petro" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have been using one to take puer to work for the last 3 months.

>
> Where did you buy yours?
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"Mike Petro" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I got mine from a friend in China, it cost me about $5. It is my
> understanding that this is a common everyday "travel" cup in China. I
> am told that it is the cup of choice for Taxi Drivers etc. They are
> made by dozens of companies and are of various qualties.
>
> I sure have been happy with mine. There was a small learning curve but
> I have used it 5 days a week ever since I got it. If it ever breaks I
> will buy 2 or 3 more of them.
>
> Mike
>
>
> Bluesea wrote:
> > "Mike Petro" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I have been using one to take puer to work for the last 3 months.

> >
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Yeah the leaf is still attached to the stem on some pieces. And it seems
like it's pretty heavily oxidised, the liquor is sort of an olive green. But
dark olive.

Melinda

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"Space Cowboy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Is the leaf still attached to the stem? I've got plenty of whole leaf
> tea such as souchong which will bloat up like the Incredible Hulk but I
> like the bushy look with the stem. Also so I can get a feel for the
> oxidation level do the leaves infuse lite or dark green?
>
> Jim
>
> Melinda wrote:
> ...Google never forgets...
>> And on the "bush in my pot" front...yeah, my TGY looked like that in

> my tea
>> glass yesterday...lol, I was out and about and I could imagine what

> it must
>> look like to people who weren't sure what it was. It looked like some

> sort
>> of large kelp....very bushy. (That's the TGY I mentioned a long time

> ago,
>> Butterfly brand in a brownish tin at the Aisian markets, kinda pricy

> and
>> gets very bitter quickly when I use too much in my Yixing...but seems

> OK at
>> a lighter amount in my glass.)
>>
>> Melinda

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If you're like me you might buy a tea and wait several months to try
it. I just got around to trying Imperial Gold Oolong from my local tea
shoppe. As it turns out it is a lightly oxidized TGY withs lots of
serated veiny leaf on stem. It holds up well to multiple infusions
while watching the second season of Grasshopper on DVD.

Jim

Melinda wrote:
> Yeah the leaf is still attached to the stem on some pieces. And it

seems
> like it's pretty heavily oxidised, the liquor is sort of an olive

green. But
> dark olive.
>
> Melinda
> "Space Cowboy" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Is the leaf still attached to the stem? I've got plenty of whole

leaf
> > tea such as souchong which will bloat up like the Incredible Hulk

but I
> > like the bushy look with the stem. Also so I can get a feel for

the
> > oxidation level do the leaves infuse lite or dark green?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Melinda wrote:
> > ...Google never forgets...
> >> And on the "bush in my pot" front...yeah, my TGY looked like that

in
> > my tea
> >> glass yesterday...lol, I was out and about and I could imagine

what
> > it must
> >> look like to people who weren't sure what it was. It looked like

some
> > sort
> >> of large kelp....very bushy. (That's the TGY I mentioned a long

time
> > ago,
> >> Butterfly brand in a brownish tin at the Aisian markets, kinda

pricy
> > and
> >> gets very bitter quickly when I use too much in my Yixing...but

seems
> > OK at
> >> a lighter amount in my glass.)
> >>
> >> Melinda


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