Hello,

I'm a little bit confused selecting a brown betty teapot. First off, I can't
figure out which one is the "authentic" one as various retailers have
various prices. Also the size is what I don't get. I figure 2 cups would be
enough for me, thinking that would be 16oz., I see 2 cup Brown Bettys are
12oz. So I guess I'll go to the 4 cup Brown Betty which say 24 oz.. But then
I see another store selling "2-3 cups" with or without a claimed 18oz. So
which one is correct? And is the 4 cup brown betty the standard size to go
by? Thanks!

HK

Oh and I forgot to ask if anyone knew where I could find these in Canada via
mail order or online. Or if bought locally, a brick and mortar store in
Montreal. Thanks!

HK

In article >,
"Henry" > wrote:

> Oh and I forgot to ask if anyone knew where I could find these in Canada via
> mail order or online. Or if bought locally, a brick and mortar store in
> Montreal. Thanks!
>
> HK
>
>

Canadian Tire?

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As a follow up, I couldn't find the Brown Betty anywhere in Canada except
for www.theteahaus.com . Some supposetly "high end" tea stores here didn't
even know what a brown betty was....anyway...FYI

"Henry" > wrote in message . ..
> As a follow up, I couldn't find the Brown Betty anywhere in Canada except
> for www.theteahaus.com . Some supposetly "high end" tea stores here didn't
> even know what a brown betty was....anyway...FYI

I will be going to a normal English market tomorrow & I will make a note of the teapots on sale.
These days all us English tea addicts do tend to use teabags or leaves in a Mug rather than the
traditional teapot with cups & saucers.
I am afraid that we only tend to revert to tradition at funerals & weddings.
Dave Croft

/4/04


> As a follow up, I couldn't find the Brown Betty anywhere in Canada except
> for www.theteahaus.com . Some supposetly "high end" tea stores here didn't
> even know what a brown betty was....anyway...FYI

Perhaps a reflection on the "'high end' tea stores," perhaps on the...you
know.

Michael

Been looking for a nice BB for years. Found a couple exactly matching my
wants in the UK, but they weren't for sale. Been using one formerly owned by
a late uncle, must be nearly a century old, chipped and well-mired with
tannins. That was fine for me, but I needed a bigger one for parties.

Just ordered an Arthur Wood via the web (from Blue Moon). The pot came
quickly, and is well-formed with the proper glaze. But the base clay is not
red stoneware - it seems to be porcelain. Hardly the authentic item, thinks
I - anyone know more about this?

Thanks-

DM

Is Arthur Wood impressed on the bottom? Porcelain 'chips' or 'flakes'
and clay 'fractures' or 'radiates' horizontally. You'll have to
damage it to be sure. My AW is completely sealed with glaze so it
could be stainless steel for all I know.

Jim

"Dog Ma 1" (reply w/o spam)> wrote in message >...
> Just ordered an Arthur Wood via the web (from Blue Moon). The pot came
> quickly, and is well-formed with the proper glaze. But the base clay is not
> red stoneware - it seems to be porcelain. Hardly the authentic item, thinks
> I - anyone know more about this?
>
> Thanks-
>
> DM

"Space Cowboy" > wrote in message
m...
> Is Arthur Wood impressed on the bottom? Porcelain 'chips' or 'flakes'
> and clay 'fractures' or 'radiates' horizontally. You'll have to
> damage it to be sure. My AW is completely sealed with glaze so it
> could be stainless steel for all I know.

Interestingly, there's no AW marking. The Blue Moon web site says that
they're porcelain, and the cardboard box has AW promo writing on it. But now
I'm wondering...

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:24:10 -0500, "Henry"
> tripped the light fantastic, then
quipped:

>Hello,
>
>I'm a little bit confused selecting a brown betty teapot. First off, I can't
>figure out which one is the "authentic" one as various retailers have
>various prices. Also the size is what I don't get. I figure 2 cups would be
>enough for me, thinking that would be 16oz., I see 2 cup Brown Bettys are
>12oz. So I guess I'll go to the 4 cup Brown Betty which say 24 oz.. But then
>I see another store selling "2-3 cups" with or without a claimed 18oz. So
>which one is correct? And is the 4 cup brown betty the standard size to go
>by? Thanks!
>
>HK

A "cup" of tea is usually 6 ounces, not 8 ounces. "Standard" is a
subjective term, really...how many people will you be serving tea? A
standard pot for home use by one person will, most likely, be
different than the standard pot used in a tea room. As for being
authentic, a "Brown Betty" is more of a generic name for the
particular shaped earthenware teapot made of reddish clay. As long as
you keep those things in mind, you shouldn't have any trouble picking
out a nice teapot. Welcome to the wonderful world of proper tea.

Tee
http://www.geocities.com/tee_king
Remove -no-spam- to email me.

There are plenty of Brown Betty knockoffs. I'm in a store the other
day and see a tea cozy wrapped around what I presumed was a Brown
Betty. Curious I had the clerk take off the cozy and on the bottom
was a Made in Japan sticker. An authentic Brown Betty comes from
Stoke-on-Trent and is made from the distinctive red terra cotta clay
with the Rockingham glaze. If you can get one stamped by Arthur Woods
because the 250 year old business closed it doors a couple of months
ago. You'll find websites if you plug in the keywords I just
mentioned. Another trademark is Pristine which you can find in
CostPlus stores in the US.

Jim


Tee King > wrote in message >. ..
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:24:10 -0500, "Henry"
> > tripped the light fantastic, then
> quipped:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I'm a little bit confused selecting a brown betty teapot. First off, I can't
> >figure out which one is the "authentic" one as various retailers have
> >various prices. Also the size is what I don't get. I figure 2 cups would be
> >enough for me, thinking that would be 16oz., I see 2 cup Brown Bettys are
> >12oz. So I guess I'll go to the 4 cup Brown Betty which say 24 oz.. But then
> >I see another store selling "2-3 cups" with or without a claimed 18oz. So
> >which one is correct? And is the 4 cup brown betty the standard size to go
> >by? Thanks!
> >
> >HK
>
> A "cup" of tea is usually 6 ounces, not 8 ounces. "Standard" is a
> subjective term, really...how many people will you be serving tea? A
> standard pot for home use by one person will, most likely, be
> different than the standard pot used in a tea room. As for being
> authentic, a "Brown Betty" is more of a generic name for the
> particular shaped earthenware teapot made of reddish clay. As long as
> you keep those things in mind, you shouldn't have any trouble picking
> out a nice teapot. Welcome to the wonderful world of proper tea.
>
> Tee
> http://www.geocities.com/tee_king
> Remove -no-spam- to email me.

In article >,
(Space Cowboy) wrote:

> There are plenty of Brown Betty knockoffs. I'm in a store the other
> day and see a tea cozy wrapped around what I presumed was a Brown
> Betty. Curious I had the clerk take off the cozy and on the bottom
> was a Made in Japan sticker. An authentic Brown Betty comes from
> Stoke-on-Trent and is made from the distinctive red terra cotta clay
> with the Rockingham glaze. If you can get one stamped by Arthur Woods
> because the 250 year old business closed it doors a couple of months
> ago. You'll find websites if you plug in the keywords I just
> mentioned. Another trademark is Pristine which you can find in
> CostPlus stores in the US.


Arthur Woods is gone?! Thats a pity. I have a very pretty white tea
pot with blackberry decorations & gold trim from them that I bought in
Bermuda a bazillion years ago. Its my 'we have company' tea pot which
seldom sees use because we seldom have tea drinking company. Maybe it
will be worth something someday!

Brown Betty is a classic style as much as anything else, so outside of some
seriously pedantic, likely highly debatable historical points, any of
quality manufacture is as authentic as any other. The size
thing....somewhere along the line a decision was made that a "cup" of hot
beverage, be it tea or coffee was six ounces which likely as not had to do
with the size of cups in fancy china services, since the coffee cups I'm
used to in the US and recall from living in the UK were generally 8-10
ounces for the regular size and what is the limit for the "large" mugs. The
24 ounce was the most common I recall seeing in shops in England if that's
important to you. What I would do is consider how you will be using it. If
you never expect to serve company and will only be taking a couple cups
before it has a chance to go cold even with a tea-cosey, a 2-3 cupper will
likely be sufficient. If a guest/companion/whatever is in the mix then
adapt accordingly and if it's a bit large for everyday needs and only one
pot is in your budget at the moment, then there's nothing that says you have
to make a whole pot every time you use it.

Tea-pots are marvelous little things. They only require care when you use
them and they can be a joy to look at even when you don't. One of them is
likely sufficient, but another one can be a welcome addition....and maybe
just one more.... and even though I really don't need any more, there was
this one I happened to see at Whole Foods today.....

-Doc

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"...it's only the giving that makes you... what you are.."


"Henry" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
>
> I'm a little bit confused selecting a brown betty teapot. First off, I
can't
> figure out which one is the "authentic" one as various retailers have
> various prices. Also the size is what I don't get. I figure 2 cups would
be
> enough for me, thinking that would be 16oz., I see 2 cup Brown Bettys are
> 12oz. So I guess I'll go to the 4 cup Brown Betty which say 24 oz.. But
then
> I see another store selling "2-3 cups" with or without a claimed 18oz. So
> which one is correct? And is the 4 cup brown betty the standard size to go
> by? Thanks!
>
> HK
>
>

"Henry" > wrote in
:

> Hello,
>
> I'm a little bit confused selecting a brown betty teapot. First off, I
> can't figure out which one is the "authentic" one as various retailers
> have various prices. Also the size is what I don't get. I figure 2
> cups would be enough for me, thinking that would be 16oz., I see 2 cup
> Brown Bettys are 12oz. So I guess I'll go to the 4 cup Brown Betty
> which say 24 oz.. But then I see another store selling "2-3 cups" with
> or without a claimed 18oz. So which one is correct? And is the 4 cup
> brown betty the standard size to go by? Thanks!

I've seen brown betty teapots at www.englishteastore.com. I've never
ordered a pot from them. I've placed several orders for tea and such.
Usually they're pretty good, though if they're out of stock on something
you might have to wait for a while. One more place to shop, anyway.

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