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Its blurry. You get the picture ;-). Its handwritten from one of my
sheng boxes.

http://i39.tinypic.com/10ojqzr.jpg

TIA,
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It almost looks like the character for "sheng", only upside down. I am
no native Chinese speaker, and no calligrapher, but this looks like a
four stroke character, and the last stroke seems kinda odd if this is
indeed right side up.
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tried to draw it as in your picture using http://www.nciku.com/
but it didnt come up with any character that looks similar
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I think your suggesting a tablet application for characters drawn by
cursor or some type of build a character. Ill check it out.

Jim

Jan 25, 10:19 pm, SN > wrote:
> tried to draw it as in your picture usinghttp://www.nciku.com/
> but it didnt come up with any character that looks similar.

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Ox. On Firefox Linux the pencil icon opens up outside the tablet,
Firefox isnt supplying the right coordinates. Guess Ill have to fire
up Vista where unfortunately everything seems to work. My throat is
still horse from pronouncing pu 'er'. Everybody was saying 'arh' but
is suppose to be the almost impossible 'ahr' for us Westerners. If I
get that sound down Ill go to Bejing and pretend Im a native.

Jim

On Jan 26, 7:00 am, wrote:
> I think your suggesting a tablet application for characters drawn by
> cursor or some type of build a character. Ill check it out.
>
> Jim
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> Jan 25, 10:19 pm, SN > wrote:
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> > tried to draw it as in your picture usinghttp://www.nciku.com/
> > but it didnt come up with any character that looks similar.




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On Jan 27, 10:57*am, wrote:
> Ox. *On Firefox Linux the pencil icon opens up outside the tablet,
> Firefox isnt supplying the right coordinates. *Guess Ill have to fire
> up Vista where unfortunately everything seems to work. *My throat is
> still horse from pronouncing pu 'er'. *Everybody was saying 'arh' but
> is suppose to be the almost impossible 'ahr' for us Westerners. *If I
> get that sound down Ill go to Bejing and pretend Im a native.
>
> Jim


The frustrating thing is when native speakers act like because you are
slightly mangling the word they have no idea what you are saying. If
I'm in a tea shop or actively discussing tea and my pronunciation
isn't 100% I think it is safe to say they could easily figure it out.
When a non-native English speaker is mangling words left and right I
can still manage just fine. That's one of my pet peeves about talking
tea in person.

I had a lady repeat the word "Tuo" about a million times correcting me
(even though we were saying it the same) rather than just accept my
(apparently slightly off) pronunciation and move on. I never find it
necessary to correct the "L" and "R" thing (let alone repeatedly) when
they talk to me in English, I manage just fine.

- Dominic

PS I'm waiting to see what the character turns out to be, it's like a
bad soap opera
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On Jan 26, 8:18*am, cha bing > wrote:
> It almost looks like the character for "sheng", only upside down. I am
> no native Chinese speaker, and no calligrapher, but this looks like a
> four stroke character, and the last stroke seems kinda odd if this is
> indeed right side up.


If it isn't SHENG (life / raw, etc) upside down, also my guess, I
suppose it could be a highly grandiloquent WANG (king / top, etc) ...
but I'd go with the Sheng!

Mr Im Teas
In Yunnan with no money and no visa, and 196km away from my stash of
bing.
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I should have said feel free to rotate the image 180'. I showed that
orientation because of the Traditional Radical zhi4. That could be
sheng upside down but the '6' doesnt look right for the top part of
the character. I used the Wubi wildcard input method to look at all
characters with the top part of the zhi4 character. I didnt see any
possible matches. There was a native Chinese speaker at the puer
tasting. I forgot to ask. If I could just figure what strokes the 9
or 6 represent.

Jim

On Jan 25, 5:18 pm, cha bing > wrote:
> It almost looks like the character for "sheng", only upside down. I am
> no native Chinese speaker, and no calligrapher, but this looks like a
> four stroke character, and the last stroke seems kinda odd if this is
> indeed right side up.

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On Jan 26, 9:46*pm, wrote:
> I should have said feel free to rotate the image 180'. *I showed that
> orientation because of the Traditional Radical zhi4. *That could be
> sheng upside down but the '6' doesnt look right for the top part of
> the character. *I used the Wubi wildcard input method to look at all
> characters with the top part of the zhi4 character. *I didnt see any
> possible matches. *There was a native Chinese speaker at the puer
> tasting. *I forgot to ask. *If I could just figure what strokes the 9
> or 6 represent.
>
> Jim
>
> On Jan 25, 5:18 pm, cha bing > wrote:
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> > It almost looks like the character for "sheng", only upside down. I am
> > no native Chinese speaker, and no calligrapher, but this looks like a
> > four stroke character, and the last stroke seems kinda odd if this is
> > indeed right side up.


The character is indeed 'sheng', written in Xing-shu:
http://hzart.5d6d.com/thread-34-1-1.html
5th row from the right, 7th character from the bottom. Extend the
left hook and round the corner, join up the right, and extend the
base.
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I want to make sure.

Is this the sheng character from your first table.
http://i43.tinypic.com/vxn4b9.jpg

xiexie,
Jim

On Jan 27, 8:49 pm, Kevo > wrote:
> The character is indeed 'sheng', written in Xing-shu:http://hzart.5d6d.com/thread-34-1-1.html
> 5th row from the right, 7th character from the bottom. Extend the
> left hook and round the corner, join up the right, and extend the
> base.



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On Jan 29, 3:50*am, wrote:
> I want to make sure.
>
> Is this the sheng character from your first table.http://i43.tinypic.com/vxn4b9.jpg
>
> xiexie,
> Jim
>
> On Jan 27, 8:49 pm, Kevo > wrote:
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> > The character is indeed 'sheng', written in Xing-shu:http://hzart.5d6d.com/thread-34-1-1.html
> > 5th row from the right, 7th character from the bottom. *Extend the
> > left hook and round the corner, join up the right, and extend the
> > base.


Yes, curve the left arm, join the right corners, extend the base, and
turn the character 180...
bu ke qi...


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On Jan 24, 1:24*am, wrote:
> Its blurry. *You get the picture ;-). *Its handwritten from one of my
> sheng boxes.
>
> http://i39.tinypic.com/10ojqzr.jpg
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> TIA,
> Jim


The character is written in a sort of Chinese calligraphy so it makes
it harder to read. It's "shou" which means long life.
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On Jan 28, 8:16*pm, Mydnight > wrote:
> On Jan 24, 1:24*am, wrote:
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> > Its blurry. *You get the picture ;-). *Its handwritten from one of my
> > sheng boxes.

>
> >http://i39.tinypic.com/10ojqzr.jpg

>
> > TIA,
> > Jim

>
> The character is written in a sort of Chinese calligraphy so it makes
> it harder to read. *It's "shou" which means long life.


If it is the 'shou' character then the writer was not aware of the
strokes. Be it Cao-shu or Xing-shu, the middle stroke has to push
through the top bar and the character is missing a dot on the right of
the swiping curve.


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On Jan 28, 9:56*pm, Kevo > wrote:
> On Jan 28, 8:16*pm, Mydnight > wrote:
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> > On Jan 24, 1:24*am, wrote:

>
> > > Its blurry. *You get the picture ;-). *Its handwritten from one of my
> > > sheng boxes.

>
> > >http://i39.tinypic.com/10ojqzr.jpg

>
> > > TIA,
> > > Jim

>
> > The character is written in a sort of Chinese calligraphy so it makes
> > it harder to read. *It's "shou" which means long life.

>
> If it is the 'shou' character then the writer was not aware of the
> strokes. Be it Cao-shu or Xing-shu, the middle stroke has to push
> through the top bar and the character is missing a dot on the right of
> the swiping curve.


As in the 1st character from the left:

http://pm.cangdian.com/Data/2005/PMH...1662-0392.html


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> As in the 1st character from the left:
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> http://pm.cangdian.com/Data/2005/PMH...01662-0392...- Hide quoted text -


When it comes to calligraphy, they don't really concentrate on the
exact strokes. It is more or less the shape of the character. To be
frank, it wasn't me that called what character it is, it was a Chinese
teacher that happened to be standing behind me that majored in Chinese
history that told me what character it was. Believe him, who had
studied Chinese History and Literature for 20 years, or not.



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On Jan 28, 11:40*pm, Mydnight > wrote:
> > As in the 1st character from the left:

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> >http://pm.cangdian.com/Data/2005/PMH...62-0392...Hide quoted text -

>
> When it comes to calligraphy, they don't really concentrate on the
> exact strokes. *It is more or less the shape of the character. *To be
> frank, it wasn't me that called what character it is, it was a Chinese
> teacher that happened to be standing behind me that majored in Chinese
> history that told me what character it was. *Believe him, who had
> studied Chinese History and Literature for 20 years, or not.


This has nothing to do with 20 years of study or steeping in Chinese
History and Literature...it is about perception: tilt the picture 180
and ask him again...
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