(Scott Dorsey) writes:

> corax > wrote:
> >
> >question: is this type of cao shu at all likely to be the next step in
> >'simplified' characters in the chinese-speaking world? or do you think
> >the 'next step' is more likely to be a massive move, on the mainland
> >at least, toward using pinyin or some other phonetic-representation
> >system, replacing hanzi altogether?
>
> T MOR R LESS LIK CABLESE. PBLY USEFL NLY LMTED APPLC. TNX.

STOP!

/Lew
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Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

> Please read what Lew wrote.
> My first example is not in fan ti script. Please look at the
> characters. If 蛋 is a fan ti for 旦, you need a new teacher. 炒 is the
> same fan or jian ti, é¥* is written in jian ti, not fan ti. So which is
> in fan ti?
> 'no matter in what restaurant' - unless you have been to all the
> Chinese eateries in the world, you can only say 'in the restaurants
> I've been to', which is not exhaustive. I just ate last week at Xiao
> Nan Tian in Hongkong and watched the waiter wrote Nian Gao 年糕 as 年高。
> The second example is the same, 分 written for 粉
> Most times it is not that the waiters are uneducated. They substitute
> one character for the other with the similar writing or sound in order
> to expediate things: they write it fast and pass it on to the kitchen.
> They do this for efficiency.
> What is more horrifying is when the literate do it in their published
> works, and one I can name on the fly is Teaparker. In several books by
> him the pages are peppered by characters which share the same sound,
> or similar strokes, but mean differently. Waiters do it to make their
> job quicker, but a writer?

Actually, you are right about the characters. That night I just took
a glance at what was written and we had gotten the sauce more than the
local tea so I apologize. But again, you only demonstrated how they
abbreviate some characters to save time.

> Everyone agrees my character is upside down :-). This is how I
> satisfied myself it is. Three characters meaning Big Leaf Tea were
> written on the flat side of the rectangular sheng box. I imagine the
> box was flipped on one edge for the rightside up 'sheng' character on
> the other edge which I mistakenly showed upsidedown. I dont know I
> think the sheng itself got more expensive or taste better because of
> this discussion. I learned some stuff about Chinese handwriting. I
> want to thank everyone for their efforts. This is the best group
> about tea on the net.

Looking at the character again with another friend that does
calligraphy for a living, he said it looks like "xiang" or $B9a(B which
means fragrant. He didn't rule out "shou" but he's definitely sure it
isn't anything upside down.

On Feb 3, 8:15 am, Mydnight > wrote:
> > Everyone agrees my character is upside down :-).
....not any more...

I guess the question would be does the 'squiggly' represent the
Traditional radical component Yue1 or Ri4.

Jim

> Looking at the character again with another friend that does
> calligraphy for a living, he said it looks like "xiang" or $B9a(B which
> means fragrant. He didn't rule out "shou" but he's definitely sure it
> isn't anything upside down.

On Feb 3, 11:15 pm, Mydnight > wrote:
> > Everyone agrees my character is upside down :-). This is how I
> > satisfied myself it is. Three characters meaning Big Leaf Tea were
> > written on the flat side of the rectangular sheng box. I imagine the
> > box was flipped on one edge for the rightside up 'sheng' character on
> > the other edge which I mistakenly showed upsidedown. I dont know I
> > think the sheng itself got more expensive or taste better because of
> > this discussion. I learned some stuff about Chinese handwriting. I
> > want to thank everyone for their efforts. This is the best group
> > about tea on the net.
>
> Looking at the character again with another friend that does
> calligraphy for a living, he said it looks like "xiang" or $B9a(B which
> means fragrant. He didn't rule out "shou" but he's definitely sure it
> isn't anything upside down.

http://blog.eorchid.cn/15172_6150.html
First character on the left is cao shu for xiang.
You have gone from missing one dot to missing two dots.