James Silverton wrote:

> wrote on 26 Feb 2006 15:20:39 -0800:
>
> w> I'd never go to an a-y-c-e sushi joint that cut corners by
> w> padding the fish with a lot of rice and demanding that you
> w> consume it all. Are the places mentioned above like that?
>
> To whom are you replying? I mentioned two in my area that did
> not boost the rice proportion. Mostly however, IMO,
> all-you-can-eat "sushi" buffets economize on the quality of the
> fish even if the stuff looks quite good.



Sure. Anybody who thinks they can get a $60 sushi dinner at a $20 AYCE place
is kidding himself.

Still, some of them can be at least acceptable. There are times when I'd
like to save a few dollars, but feel like having sushi. I'd like to be able
to have the best food available every night (whether sushi or any other
kind), but I can't afford it

It's usually easy to find the best of something, whether it's a restaurant
or anything else. What's a lot harder is finding the best value.

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Ken wrote on Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:46:33 -0700:

??>> wrote on 26 Feb 2006 15:20:39 -0800:
??>>
w>>> I'd never go to an a-y-c-e sushi joint that cut corners by
w>>> padding the fish with a lot of rice and demanding that you
w>>> consume it all. Are the places mentioned above like that?
??>>
??>> To whom are you replying? I mentioned two in my area that
??>> did not boost the rice proportion. Mostly however,
??>> IMO, all-you-can-eat "sushi" buffets economize on the
??>> quality of the fish even if the stuff looks quite good.

KB> Sure. Anybody who thinks they can get a $60 sushi dinner at
KB> a $20 AYCE place is kidding himself.

KB> Still, some of them can be at least acceptable. There are
KB> times when I'd like to save a few dollars, but feel like
KB> having sushi. I'd like to be able to have the best food
KB> available every night (whether sushi or any other kind),
KB> but I can't afford it

KB> It's usually easy to find the best of something, whether
KB> it's a restaurant or anything else. What's a lot harder is
KB> finding the best value.

Yes, your mentioning a price makes me wonder what are usual
prices since the best place I know, Hinode in Rockville, charges
$10 for their week day lunch time buffet. It is deservedly
popular and has good things, IMHO, like surf clams available. I
would be hard put to get much more than two 2-piece items for
the price at my usual sushi bar even if they would be larger.
There is also quite a lot of rather interesting vegetable Nigiri
on the counter. Incidentally, is Nigiri the right word for
non-fish items?

James Silverton
Potomac Maryland.

James Silverton wrote:
> Incidentally, is Nigiri the right word for non-fish items?

Nigiri is the word for a rice ball with a sushi neta on top.
For the most part its a fish item, but I'm sure you could strap
a veggie on with a strip of nori.

--
Dan

Dan wrote on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:25:19 -0500:

DL> James Silverton wrote:
??>> Incidentally, is Nigiri the right word for non-fish items?

DL> Nigiri is the word for a rice ball with a sushi neta on
DL> top. For the most part its a fish item, but I'm sure you
DL> could strap a veggie on with a strip of nori.

Yes, that is exactly what I was talking about. The items I most
like are strapped onto the rice with nori and are cooked thin
asparagus spears and strips of some yellow pickle. They make a
refreshing contrast to the fish items. As I was writing this, I
thought to find my favorite sushi book, "Sushi" by Ryuichi
Yoshii and see what was there. He refers to them just as
"vegetable sushi" and has recipes for tofu, asparagus, snow
peas, avocado, shiitake and eggplant. He invariably calls for a
small garnish like miso or mayonnaise to be placed on top.
Sorry, I should have looked it up before I asked the question.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

James Silverton wrote:

> Dan wrote on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:25:19 -0500:
>
> DL> James Silverton wrote:
> ??>> Incidentally, is Nigiri the right word for non-fish items?
>
> DL> Nigiri is the word for a rice ball with a sushi neta on
> DL> top. For the most part its a fish item, but I'm sure you
> DL> could strap a veggie on with a strip of nori.
>
> Yes, that is exactly what I was talking about. The items I most like are
> strapped onto the rice with nori and are cooked thin asparagus spears
> and strips of some yellow pickle. They make a refreshing contrast to the
> fish items. As I was writing this, I thought to find my favorite sushi
> book, "Sushi" by Ryuichi Yoshii and see what was there. He refers to
> them just as "vegetable sushi" and has recipes for tofu, asparagus, snow
> peas, avocado, shiitake and eggplant. He invariably calls for a small
> garnish like miso or mayonnaise to be placed on top. Sorry, I should
> have looked it up before I asked the question.

No problem asking.. I've mostly seen veggie sushi in maki form, like oshinko
maki and asparagus and stuff maki. Occasionally my sushi chef puts baby
sprouts on top of saba nigiri.

--
Dan

In article >,
says...
> Nigiri is the word for a rice ball with a sushi neta on top.
> For the most part its a fish item, but I'm sure you could strap
> a veggie on with a strip of nori.
>
In the UK, I've seen red pepper (capsicum type, not chili) or Omelette
Nigiri.
--
Carl Robson
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"NeedforSwede2" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >,
> says...
> > Nigiri is the word for a rice ball with a sushi neta on top.
> > For the most part its a fish item, but I'm sure you could strap
> > a veggie on with a strip of nori.
> >
> In the UK, I've seen red pepper (capsicum type, not chili) or Omelette
> Nigiri.
> --
> Carl Robson

There is a boom in unusual fusion-type sushi. I got back from Japan last
week where I saw small
square hors d'ouvre type sushi using all sorts of unusual vegetable things
and smoked salmon.
I know there are slme book out that specializes in these kinds of
non-traditional sushi.
My guess is that it is reverse importation of items created outside of
Japan.
The first time I saw a red pepper nigiri was when Morimoto Masaharu made it
on Ryouri no Tetsujin-
aka Iron Chef (the original Japanese version) years go.
In terms of traditional sushi using vegetables, in terms of nigiri I can
think of none.For hosomaki there is
of course Kappa (cucumber) and Kanpyou. And Futomaki as well as Chirashi and
other forms of sushi
use various vegetables.

M

"Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
...
> James Silverton wrote:
> > Incidentally, is Nigiri the right word for non-fish items?
>
> Nigiri is the word for a rice ball with a sushi neta on top.
> For the most part its a fish item, but I'm sure you could strap
> a veggie on with a strip of nori.
>
> --
> Dan
>

Essentially yes.
Technically, "Nigiri" short for Nigirizushi, comes from the verb "Nigiru"
meaning to grip, as in a fist.
Obviously refering to the manner in which the shari (rice) is made into
something of a ball.
M

Ken Blake wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>
>
wrote on 26 Feb 2006 15:20:39 -0800:
>>
>>w> I'd never go to an a-y-c-e sushi joint that cut corners by
>>w> padding the fish with a lot of rice and demanding that you
>>w> consume it all. Are the places mentioned above like that?
>>
>>To whom are you replying? I mentioned two in my area that did
>>not boost the rice proportion. Mostly however, IMO,
>>all-you-can-eat "sushi" buffets economize on the quality of the
>>fish even if the stuff looks quite good.
>
>
>
>
> Sure. Anybody who thinks they can get a $60 sushi dinner at a $20 AYCE place
> is kidding himself.

I don't know.. I did an AYCE once and was able to scarf down 33 pieces.
At an average of $4 per pair, that's $64. They served uni, which brought
up the average. Most AYCE places around here are about $25/person. I can
certainly eat $25 worth of sushi, as long as the rice isn't loaded up.

--
Dan

Dan Logcher wrote:

>> Sure. Anybody who thinks they can get a $60 sushi dinner at a $20
>> AYCE place is kidding himself.
>
> I don't know.. I did an AYCE once and was able to scarf down 33
> pieces. At an average of $4 per pair, that's $64. They served uni,
> which brought up the average. Most AYCE places around here are about
> $25/person. I can certainly eat $25 worth of sushi, as long as the
> rice isn't loaded up.




Sorry, I confused you. I wasn't referring to how much you got, but to the
quality. I meant that, given an equal amount of sushi you eat, you can't
expect to get the same quality for $20 as for $60.


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Ken Blake wrote:

> Dan Logcher wrote:
>
>
>>>Sure. Anybody who thinks they can get a $60 sushi dinner at a $20
>>>AYCE place is kidding himself.
>>
>>I don't know.. I did an AYCE once and was able to scarf down 33
>>pieces. At an average of $4 per pair, that's $64. They served uni,
>>which brought up the average. Most AYCE places around here are about
>>$25/person. I can certainly eat $25 worth of sushi, as long as the
>>rice isn't loaded up.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sorry, I confused you. I wasn't referring to how much you got, but to the
> quality. I meant that, given an equal amount of sushi you eat, you can't
> expect to get the same quality for $20 as for $60.

Only once have I found equal quality. It was a sushi bar that offered AYCE
two night a week for $25/person. They made it fresh to order. We ate there
about three times, it was a little far away from us. It was excellent quality.
But unfortunately, their location was poor. Had they opened it now, that location
would have been prime, as Boston's South End is now Up and Coming.

--
Dan