http://omg.yahoo.com/news/jeremy-piv...scare/16718?nc

NEW YORK, New York -- Jeremy Piven is ending his run in Broadway's
"Speed-the-Plow," due to a condition caused by a high mercury count,
according to Variety...

> http://omg.yahoo.com/news/jeremy-piv...scare/16718?nc
>
> NEW YORK, New York -- Jeremy Piven is ending his run in Broadway's
> "Speed-the-Plow," due to a condition caused by a high mercury count,
> according to Variety...


You'll probably get sick if you eat anything twice a day for a long time.

But I'd say it was this.

"Colker also noted that Piven was taking Chinese herbs, which may have contained heavy metals."

In Chinese quackery endangered animals are used so they are not necessarly concernd about toxic content of their herbs either. The first enperor Qin Shihuangdi even took mercury as a drug to be immortal.

Jukka

Armadillo wrote:
>>http://omg.yahoo.com/news/jeremy-piv...scare/16718?nc
>>
>>NEW YORK, New York -- Jeremy Piven is ending his run in Broadway's
>>"Speed-the-Plow," due to a condition caused by a high mercury count,
>>according to Variety...
>
>
>
> You'll probably get sick if you eat anything twice a day for a long time.
>
> But I'd say it was this.
>
> "Colker also noted that Piven was taking Chinese herbs, which may have contained heavy metals."
>
> In Chinese quackery endangered animals are used so they are not necessarly concernd about toxic content of their herbs either. The first enperor Qin Shihuangdi even took mercury as a drug to be immortal.

Sounds like he was a huge tuna fan.. well, even I know not to overeat that.
I'm ok with tuna, but not one of my favorites.. my kids though. We try to
limit their intake.

--
Dan

Dan wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:43:20 -0500:

> Armadillo wrote:
>>> http://omg.yahoo.com/news/jeremy-piv...scare/16718?nc
>>>
>>> NEW YORK, New York -- Jeremy Piven is ending his run in
>>> Broadway's "Speed-the-Plow," due to a condition caused by a high
>>> mercury count, according to Variety...
>>
>> You'll probably get sick if you eat anything twice a day for a long
>> time. But I'd say it was this.
>>
>> "Colker also noted that Piven was taking Chinese herbs, which
>> may have contained heavy metals."
>>
>> In Chinese quackery endangered animals are used so they are
>> not necessarily concernd about toxic content of their herbs
>> either. The first enperor Qin Shihuangdi even took mercury as
>> a drug to be immortal.

> Sounds like he was a huge tuna fan.. well, even I know not to overeat
> that. I'm ok with tuna, but not one of my favorites.. my kids though.
> We try to limit their intake.

Sounds like the emperor found out that folk medicine had its usual
effectiveness unless he was trying to cure his venereal disease. But
syphilis had not reached China in his time, had it?

I eat sushi once or twice a week and, for nigiri and also sashimi, my
favorites are tuna, surf clam, octopus and shrimp; the last two cooked.
So I guess my mercury intake is not too excessive.

I also quite like pickled daikon and asparagus, nigiri style. Can you
call vegetarian stuff nigiri? I defer to language experts on this.
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:16:55 -0500, "James Silverton"
> wrote:


> I also quite like pickled daikon and asparagus, nigiri style. Can you
> call vegetarian stuff nigiri? I defer to language experts on this.


I'm not a language expert, and certainly not a Japanese language
expert, but as I understand it, sure you can. The word "nigiri" refers
to the style of the sushi, consisting of the egg-shaped ball of rice
with "stuff" on top of it (as opposed, for example, to sushi rolls).
The stuff is often fish, but doesn't have to be.

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Ken Blake
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> I'm not a language expert, and certainly not a Japanese language
> expert, but as I understand it, sure you can. The word "nigiri" refers
> to the style of the sushi, consisting of the egg-shaped ball of rice
> with "stuff" on top of it (as opposed, for example, to sushi rolls).
> The stuff is often fish, but doesn't have to be.

Exactly. Literary nigiru �る means 'to grasp, to press' so nigiri sushi is a piece of rice with topping pressed on it. And I mean press. I've seen sushi bars where rice is made with moulds and fish just placed on top. It is not nigiri sushi because it falls apart if you don't hold it like sandwitch.

By the way the ball of rice is not usually egg shaped. It can be but there is variety of shapes depending on region, itamae, topping...

Jukka

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:32:54 +0200, Armadillo >
wrote:

>
> > I'm not a language expert, and certainly not a Japanese language
> > expert, but as I understand it, sure you can. The word "nigiri" refers
> > to the style of the sushi, consisting of the egg-shaped ball of rice
> > with "stuff" on top of it (as opposed, for example, to sushi rolls).
> > The stuff is often fish, but doesn't have to be.
>
> Exactly. Literary nigiru ?? means 'to grasp, to press' so nigiri sushi
> is a piece of rice with topping pressed on it. And I mean press. I've
> seen sushi bars where rice is made with moulds and fish just placed on
> top. It is not nigiri sushi because it falls apart if you don't hold
> it like sandwitch.


Thanks for the confirmation, and thanks for pointing out the verb that
"nigiri" comes from. I didn't know that before.


> By the way the ball of rice is not usually egg shaped. It can be but
> there is variety of shapes depending on region, itamae, topping...


Yes, I know there's a variety and I also know that my term
"egg-shaped" is not terribly accurate. I used it only because I didn't
think it was necessary to go into all the details, and because it
reasonably accurately fits the experience of most people here in this
newsgroup.

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"Armadillo" > wrote in message
news
>
>> I'm not a language expert, and certainly not a Japanese language
>> expert, but as I understand it, sure you can. The word "nigiri" refers
>> to the style of the sushi, consisting of the egg-shaped ball of rice
>> with "stuff" on top of it (as opposed, for example, to sushi rolls).
>> The stuff is often fish, but doesn't have to be.
>
> Exactly. Literary nigiru ?? means 'to grasp, to press' so nigiri sushi is
> a piece of rice with topping pressed on it. And I mean press. I've seen
> sushi bars where rice is made with moulds and fish just placed on top. It
> is not nigiri sushi because it falls apart if you don't hold it like
> sandwitch.
>
> By the way the ball of rice is not usually egg shaped. It can be but there
> is variety of shapes depending on region, itamae, topping...
>
> Jukka
>

Actually????(NIGIRU)?means to grasp with the hand, while ??(OSU)?means to
press/push.
The distinction is important when discussing sushi because there is ????
(NIGIRIZUSHI-grasped sushi)
as well as ?????(OSHIZUSHI-pressed sushi) which are two different forms of
sushi.

True, the Shari or rice is not exactly "egg" shaped although at first glance
that's not a bad description.
It's actually closer to a four-sided rectangular shape, and when done
properly by a real Itamae,
the outside is compressed harder than the center. To "grasp" rice in this
manner so that it holds it's
shape when serving yet falls apart easily in the mouth is usually the sign
of many years of experience.

Musashi

> Actually????(NIGIRU)?means to grasp with the hand, while ??(OSU)?means to
> press/push.
> The distinction is important when discussing sushi because there is ????
> (NIGIRIZUSHI-grasped sushi)
> as well as ?????(OSHIZUSHI-pressed sushi) which are two different forms of
> sushi.

True, I tried to cut corners and emphasize the fact that making nigiri sushi require some 'force'

And it requires skill. I've made sushi occasionally for about 25 years now and can make half-decent home sushi now but it is nowhere near what a mediocre itamae can do half-drunk.

Jukka

On Dec 19, 12:47*am, Armadillo > wrote:
> >http://omg.yahoo.com/news/jeremy-piv...lay-after-heal...
>
> > NEW YORK, New York -- Jeremy Piven is ending his run in Broadway's
> > "Speed-the-Plow," due to a condition caused by a high mercury count,
> > according to Variety...
>
> You'll probably get sick if you eat anything twice a day for a long time.
>



I would think! It's hard to believe that he would really do that. If
it's true, he must have lived on nothing but sushi!