Too old a dog for new tricks, I am still doin' it like I always did:
http://mysite.verizon.net/DickyA/Bread_01-01-2009.jpg

See also:
http://mysite.verizon.net/DickyA/breadJan2008.jpg
Last year. This year the oven was slightly (~25°F.) hotter.

There are no fancy tricks, like oven steaming. The recipe
is on one page:
http://home.att.net/~Carlsfriends/di...ctions_Rev.doc
(Well, very cramped, I'll admit.)

There is one dirty secret: bromate. (Notwithstanding, I have
attained advanced old age.)

Sometimes I make cylindrical rye bricks in my crock pot
as described he
http://www.prettycolors.com/bread%5F...kel/index.html
Recently I can do it legitimately with all or mostly rye since I
found a source of rye chops, in spite that rye berries do not seem
to come east so far as New England.

IKEA sells a mix for dense sourdough rye bread. To me, it seems
the way to go for rye bread.
http://www.ikeafans.com/forums/cooki...rketplace.html

Still here in 2009,
--
Dicky

P.S. Here is a good rule for facing the imminent futu
Stay away from fancy!
For instance, you do not need 4WD to pick up 5 lbs of flour
at the mall.

"Dick Adams" > wrote in message
...
For instance, you do not need 4WD to pick up 5 lbs of flour
at the mall.
__________________________________________________ ______

Evidently, you have not experienced a Canadian winter{:-)
Glad you're still around!
Happy New Year!
Graham

Dick Adams wrote:

> Recently I can do it legitimately with all or mostly rye since I
> found a source of rye chops, in spite that rye berries do not seem
> to come east so far as New England.

I know this might be a painful place to go... but Whole Foods (not all
of them) sells rye berries. Of course, you have to wash the car and
wax your wife's eyebrows, etc. before going, and it helps to wear
fashionably shabby athletic or yoga attire of a European nature...

They are reasonably tolerant of old people.

The rye sells for $1.39/lb. (up recently from $.89) in the bulk
aisle.

Will

"Will" > wrote in message ...

> ... Whole Foods (not all of them) sells rye berries. Of course, you
> have to wash the car and wax your wife's eyebrows, etc. before going, ....
> They are reasonably tolerant of old people ...

Back in the days when I used to bathe regularly, I would go in there
sometimes -- it was called Bread and Circus then.

> The rye sells for $1.39/lb. (up recently from $.89) in the bulk
> aisle.

Whole Foods gets no encouragement from me, on general principal.
Even 89 cents/LB is a ripoff. I'd like to buy grain in 50 or 50 LB
sacks, at least 25 LB.

I know stuff costs more than I expect -- my last 50 LB sack of flour
cost $20.85, ~ 42 cents/LB. But cripes! -- $1.39/LB for glutenless
grain, not even processed to flour???

Don't get me started on Whole Foods.

--
Dicky

Dick Adams wrote:

> Don't get me started on Whole Foods.

Well Dicky... some folks simply have to pay more. It tastes better
that way. And besides... where else can you shop that has really
valuable magazines like "Yoga Mother"?

Dick Adams wrote:

> P.S. Here is a good rule for facing the imminent futu
> Stay away from fancy!
> For instance, you do not need 4WD to pick up 5 lbs of flour
> at the mall.

There may be less of that happening:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/17/news...ion=2008121710
or
http://tinyurl.com/6rvgkr

B/
or

Dick Adams wrote:

<snap>
> --
> Dicky
>
> P.S. Here is a good rule for facing the imminent futu
> Stay away from fancy!
> For instance, you do not need 4WD to pick up 5 lbs of flour
> at the mall.

Happy New Year Dicky, May you have a good year, keep posting I enjoy(:-)

Joe Umstead

"Joe Umstead" > wrote in message ...

> Happy New Year Dicky, May you have a good year, keep posting I enjoy(:-)

Same to you, Joe, and many more. I do try to not let things get too deadly
serious around here, expecially when it comes to religious issues, like authentic
rye bread.

--
Dicky

> Sometimes I make cylindrical rye bricks in my crock pot
> as described hehttp://www.prettycolors.com/bread%5F...kel/index.html
> Recently I can do it legitimately with all or mostly rye since I
> found a source of rye chops, in spite that rye berries do not seem
> to come east so far as New England.
>
> IKEA sells a mix for dense sourdough rye bread. *To me, it seems
> the way to go for rye bread.http://www.ikeafans.com/forums/cooki...read-mix-marke...

Luckily I live in Saskatchewan so availability of raw grain isn't
really an issue, other than the middlemen...I just bought 9 pounds of
hard red spring wheat today. It's worth less than a dollar to someone
who farms it, but it was 11 bucks at the store. At least it wasn't as
bad as that clown who wanted 2 bucks a pound for bulk chickpeas from
his farm...