the punch down (or lack thereof)
 

Greetings,

After quite a bit of reading around, I have yet to find a full
explanation of why so many sourdough recipes do not call for degassing
the initial bulk fermented dough and allowing a second rise, before
dividing and shaping (as is typical for direct, commercially yeasted
methods)?

I am not sure if this is because the longer typical rise time for
sourdough already allows for both the development of flavor and gluten
(that a second, shorter rise, helps to do in direct, commercially
yeasted dough), or whether there is some other explanation.

Possible disadvantages to a second-rise before dividing and shaping?

Thanks for the help...

the punch down (or lack thereof)
 

"matt s" > wrote in message=20
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> After quite a bit of reading around, I have yet to find a full
> explanation of why so many sourdough recipes do not call for degassing
> the initial bulk fermented dough and allowing a second rise, before
> dividing and shaping (as is typical for direct, commercially yeasted
> methods)?

There was some discussion of this in the thread: Rising??

For instance, see my post:



which may still be on your server.

Otherwise, you can do the trick <news:> --> =
<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D>

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DickA

the punch down (or lack thereof)
 

Gas=holes, big holes.

Holes are good. Ergo degassing bad.

"matt s" > wrote in message
om...
> Greetings,
>
> After quite a bit of reading around, I have yet to find a full
> explanation of why so many sourdough recipes do not call for degassing
> the initial bulk fermented dough and allowing a second rise, before
> dividing and shaping (as is typical for direct, commercially yeasted
> methods)?
>
> I am not sure if this is because the longer typical rise time for
> sourdough already allows for both the development of flavor and gluten
> (that a second, shorter rise, helps to do in direct, commercially
> yeasted dough), or whether there is some other explanation.
>
> Possible disadvantages to a second-rise before dividing and shaping?
>
> Thanks for the help...