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Ray Haddad wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:10:03 -0400, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
> and "Bob (this one)" > instead replied:
>
>
>>Ray Haddad wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:17:31 -0400, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>and "Bob (this one)" > instead replied:
>>>
>>>
>>>><LOL>
>>>
>>>Only you could laugh at helping victims, sleazy boy.

>>
>>This may be the shabbiest one from you yet. You know perfectly well that
>>I'm laughing at you and your trivial antics.

>
> When you become a big man like me,


*IF* I become remotely like you, I'll jump off a bridge. For the sake of
the rest of humanity.

> you'll understand, Boob
> Pastupido. You're an absolute mockery of a human being pretending to
> care for one group of people


Sure. <LOL> I posted a way for others to help, but I'm only pretending.
Does this pass for logic on your planet?

BTW, I still note nothing from you to help Katrina victims. Still.
Again. Nothing. I guess you can't even bring yourself to pretend you
care. More Ray logic. It's easy and fun and truth not necessary.

> while stepping all over a helpless
> female who had the misfortune of not liking the French fry recipe
> you posted.


Ray, start here. I never posted a recipe about this. It had nothing to
do with a recipe. If you're going to try to slam me with some past
event, at least get *near* the facts. And why didn't you do your white
knight and rush in to defend the poor dear when it was happening? Didn't
think to offer help then either? Didn't think of it at all? Knew you'd
get blown away, as usual? Were perfectly willing to let others take care
of it? Like with Katrina-victim help? Silent on aiding others; loud in
assaulting others.

It's really funny how this seems to be the only thing you can pull up to
try to assail me with. You mock yourself when you get the basic facts so
wrong and yet go on and on with them.

Silly, silly, Ray. Foaming at the mouth, urgently flaming but with a
tiny little fire...

Pastorio
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:36:08 -0400, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and "Bob (this one)" > instead replied:

>Ray Haddad wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:10:03 -0400, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>> and "Bob (this one)" > instead replied:
>>
>>>Ray Haddad wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:17:31 -0400, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>>and "Bob (this one)" > instead replied:
>>>>
>>>>><LOL>
>>>>
>>>>Only you could laugh at helping victims, sleazy boy.
>>>
>>>This may be the shabbiest one from you yet. You know perfectly well that
>>>I'm laughing at you and your trivial antics.

>>
>> When you become a big man like me,

>
>*IF* I become remotely like you, I'll jump off a bridge. For the sake of
>the rest of humanity.


You'd be able to look at someone besides yourself in the mirror if
you ever became more like me, Boob.

>> you'll understand, Boob
>> Pastupido. You're an absolute mockery of a human being pretending to
>> care for one group of people

>
>Sure. <LOL> I posted a way for others to help, but I'm only pretending.
>Does this pass for logic on your planet?


It's not the message, Pastupido. It's the messenger I take exception
to. Haven't you figured that out yet? You're just as sleazy as they
come, Boob. You harp on me about deleting the message and plea.
Well, I delete it because I find nothing wrong with it. I do find it
disgusting that you can muster up pity and generosity for people you
have never had an exchange with but a woman you abused on USENET
doesn't even register on your pity meter. You're a sleazy man, Boob.

>BTW, I still note nothing from you to help Katrina victims. Still.
>Again. Nothing. I guess you can't even bring yourself to pretend you
>care. More Ray logic. It's easy and fun and truth not necessary.


Then you haven't been reading my posts. Not that I expect you to but
since you mentioned it here as you did, you clearly missed it.

>> while stepping all over a helpless
>> female who had the misfortune of not liking the French fry recipe
>> you posted.

>
>Ray, start here. I never posted a recipe about this. It had nothing to
>do with a recipe.


I'm using hyperbole, Boob. I'm trying to infuriate you. It's
working. You can't help but try to explain your pitiful actions. I
read the thread that was cited. I don't frequent the food group or
the cardiac groups so I had to rely on a second hand copy. Guess
what? It looked exactly like the intimidation tactics you use on MW.
You're a sleazy character, Boob.

>If you're going to try to slam me with some past
>event, at least get *near* the facts. And why didn't you do your white
>knight and rush in to defend the poor dear when it was happening?


Then you admit she needed it. That's a good first step, Boob. Work
up to an apology and then one for Geno while you're at it.

>Didn't
>think to offer help then either? Didn't think of it at all? Knew you'd
>get blown away, as usual? Were perfectly willing to let others take care
>of it? Like with Katrina-victim help? Silent on aiding others; loud in
>assaulting others.


Aw, Boob. You got me. I only donated cash this time around but next
disaster I'll do my blood donor thing again.

>It's really funny how this seems to be the only thing you can pull up to
>try to assail me with. You mock yourself when you get the basic facts so
>wrong and yet go on and on with them.


I mock myself? Good grief, Boob. Do you realize how last ditch that
is? You are the model of desperation. Do you want all this to stop?
Then all you have to do is ask.

Do I need to repeat that for you? All you have to do is ask me to
stop and I will.

>Silly, silly, Ray. Foaming at the mouth, urgently flaming but with a
>tiny little fire...


Odd you should regard it that way since you cannot seem to help
responding to me with more excuses for treating others like dirt
because they don't leap onto the "I love Pastupido" bandwagon. All
anyone has to do is fawn over your every word when it comes to
nutrition no matter how asinine your latest pet theory happens to
be. You are so needy, Boob. So desperately needy.
--
Ray
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Ray Haddad wrote:
>
> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:36:08 -0400, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
> and "Bob (this one)" > instead replied:
>
> >Ray Haddad wrote:
> >> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:10:03 -0400, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
> >> and "Bob (this one)" > instead replied:
> >>
> >>>Ray Haddad wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:17:31 -0400, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
> >>>>and "Bob (this one)" > instead replied:
> >>>>
> >>>>><LOL>
> >>>>
> >>>>Only you could laugh at helping victims, sleazy boy.
> >>>
> >>>This may be the shabbiest one from you yet. You know perfectly well that
> >>>I'm laughing at you and your trivial antics.
> >>
> >> When you become a big man like me,

> >
> >*IF* I become remotely like you, I'll jump off a bridge. For the sake of
> >the rest of humanity.

>
> You'd be able to look at someone besides yourself in the mirror if
> you ever became more like me, Boob.
>
> >> you'll understand, Boob
> >> Pastupido. You're an absolute mockery of a human being pretending to
> >> care for one group of people

> >
> >Sure. <LOL> I posted a way for others to help, but I'm only pretending.
> >Does this pass for logic on your planet?

>
> It's not the message, Pastupido. It's the messenger I take exception
> to. Haven't you figured that out yet? You're just as sleazy as they
> come, Boob. You harp on me about deleting the message and plea.
> Well, I delete it because I find nothing wrong with it. I do find it
> disgusting that you can muster up pity and generosity for people you
> have never had an exchange with but a woman you abused on USENET
> doesn't even register on your pity meter. You're a sleazy man, Boob.
>
> >BTW, I still note nothing from you to help Katrina victims. Still.
> >Again. Nothing. I guess you can't even bring yourself to pretend you
> >care. More Ray logic. It's easy and fun and truth not necessary.

>
> Then you haven't been reading my posts. Not that I expect you to but
> since you mentioned it here as you did, you clearly missed it.
>
> >> while stepping all over a helpless
> >> female who had the misfortune of not liking the French fry recipe
> >> you posted.

> >
> >Ray, start here. I never posted a recipe about this. It had nothing to
> >do with a recipe.

>
> I'm using hyperbole, Boob. I'm trying to infuriate you. It's
> working. You can't help but try to explain your pitiful actions. I
> read the thread that was cited. I don't frequent the food group or
> the cardiac groups so I had to rely on a second hand copy. Guess
> what? It looked exactly like the intimidation tactics you use on MW.
> You're a sleazy character, Boob.
>
> >If you're going to try to slam me with some past
> >event, at least get *near* the facts. And why didn't you do your white
> >knight and rush in to defend the poor dear when it was happening?

>
> Then you admit she needed it. That's a good first step, Boob. Work
> up to an apology and then one for Geno while you're at it.
>
> >Didn't
> >think to offer help then either? Didn't think of it at all? Knew you'd
> >get blown away, as usual? Were perfectly willing to let others take care
> >of it? Like with Katrina-victim help? Silent on aiding others; loud in
> >assaulting others.

>
> Aw, Boob. You got me. I only donated cash this time around but next
> disaster I'll do my blood donor thing again.
>
> >It's really funny how this seems to be the only thing you can pull up to
> >try to assail me with. You mock yourself when you get the basic facts so
> >wrong and yet go on and on with them.

>
> I mock myself? Good grief, Boob. Do you realize how last ditch that
> is? You are the model of desperation. Do you want all this to stop?
> Then all you have to do is ask.
>
> Do I need to repeat that for you? All you have to do is ask me to
> stop and I will.
>
> >Silly, silly, Ray. Foaming at the mouth, urgently flaming but with a
> >tiny little fire...

>
> Odd you should regard it that way since you cannot seem to help
> responding to me with more excuses for treating others like dirt
> because they don't leap onto the "I love Pastupido" bandwagon. All
> anyone has to do is fawn over your every word when it comes to
> nutrition no matter how asinine your latest pet theory happens to
> be. You are so needy, Boob. So desperately needy.
> --
> Ray



"Penalties are prepared for mockers, and beatings for the backs of
fools." -- King Solomon

It is clear that Bob Pastorio is now reaping these penalties and
beatings.

Nonetheless, he remains in my prayers to God, in Lord Jesus' most
precious and holy name.

May the Lord continue to touch Bob's life in ways that draw him closer
to the inevitable conclusion that He is "the way, the truth, and the
life."

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Ray Haddad wrote:
>
>>"Bob (this one)" >wrote:
>>
>>>Ray Haddad wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Bob (this one)" >" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Ray Haddad wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>><LOL>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Only you could laugh at helping victims, sleazy boy.
>>>>>
>>>>>This may be the shabbiest one from you yet. You know perfectly well that
>>>>>I'm laughing at you and your trivial antics.
>>>>
>>>>When you become a big man like me,
>>>
>>>*IF* I become remotely like you, I'll jump off a bridge. For the sake of
>>>the rest of humanity.

>>
>>You'd be able to look at someone besides yourself in the mirror if
>>you ever became more like me, Boob.
>>
>>>>you'll understand, Boob
>>>>Pastupido. You're an absolute mockery of a human being pretending to
>>>>care for one group of people
>>>
>>>Sure. <LOL> I posted a way for others to help, but I'm only pretending.
>>>Does this pass for logic on your planet?

>>
>>It's not the message, Pastupido. It's the messenger I take exception
>>to. Haven't you figured that out yet?


<LOL> Could you, even in your most fevered imaginings, think that
there's even a scintilla of subtlety to anything you post?

There's nothing to "figure out" when you write, Ray. The whole trifling
message is right there at the surface, graspable with a swiping glance,
dismissable with not more thought than swatting any other insect.

>>You're just as sleazy as they
>>come, Boob. You harp on me about deleting the message and plea.
>>Well, I delete it because I find nothing wrong with it.


You delete it because you find nothing wrong with it. The bizarre
self-excusing illogicality of this is stunning.

You deleted it repeatedly so you could take this same misinformed shot,
also repeatedly.

You deleted a plea for help from hundreds of thousands of victims on the
greatest natural or man-made disaster in American history because you
find nothing wrong with it.

>>I do find it
>>disgusting that you can muster up pity and generosity for people you
>>have never had an exchange with but a woman you abused on USENET
>>doesn't even register on your pity meter. You're a sleazy man, Boob.


Ray, you don't even know what the subject of my "abuse" is even though
it's been explained to you. You're merely picking up Gekko's complaint
without knowing what it refers to. As demonstrated below.

>>>BTW, I still note nothing from you to help Katrina victims. Still.
>>>Again. Nothing. I guess you can't even bring yourself to pretend you
>>>care. More Ray logic. It's easy and fun and truth not necessary.

>>
>>Then you haven't been reading my posts. Not that I expect you to but
>>since you mentioned it here as you did, you clearly missed it.


You deleted a plea for help from hundreds of thousands of victims on the
greatest natural or man-made disaster in American history because you
find nothing wrong with it.

>>>>while stepping all over a helpless
>>>>female who had the misfortune of not liking the French fry recipe
>>>>you posted.
>>>
>>>Ray, start here. I never posted a recipe about this. It had nothing to
>>>do with a recipe.

>>
>>I'm using hyperbole, Boob. I'm trying to infuriate you. It's
>>working. You can't help but try to explain your pitiful actions. I
>>read the thread that was cited.


Ray, you didn't read the thread that was cited or you wouldn't have
posted this. You lie.

*YOU ARE LYING.*

>>I don't frequent the food group or
>>the cardiac groups so I had to rely on a second hand copy. Guess
>>what? It looked exactly like the intimidation tactics you use on MW.
>>You're a sleazy character, Boob.


See, Ray, here's where you demonstrate that you're a liar. The encounter
in question *happened in misc.writing*, not any food or cardiology
groups. Misc.writing where you regularly post your inanities and lies.
Like this one. You don't have any idea what Gekko means and you're too
stupid and frothing at the mouth to bother to check the facts.

And...
You deleted a plea for help from hundreds of thousands of victims on the
greatest natural or man-made disaster in American history because you
find nothing wrong with it.

>>>If you're going to try to slam me with some past
>>>event, at least get *near* the facts. And why didn't you do your white
>>>knight and rush in to defend the poor dear when it was happening?

>>
>>Then you admit she needed it. That's a good first step, Boob. Work
>>up to an apology and then one for Geno while you're at it.


<LOL> Nice try, spin-boy. I admit you're trying to resurrect a non-event
for the sheer sake of insult. But you don;'t even know what the
reference is to. <LOL> Geno deserves all the contempt he gets. As do
you. And you certainly get your share of it. From huge numbers of target
shooters.

>>>Didn't
>>>think to offer help then either? Didn't think of it at all? Knew you'd
>>>get blown away, as usual? Were perfectly willing to let others take care
>>>of it? Like with Katrina-victim help? Silent on aiding others; loud in
>>>assaulting others.

>>
>>Aw, Boob. You got me. I only donated cash this time around but next
>>disaster I'll do my blood donor thing again.


Good. And remember, there's no need for blood except when there's a
disaster you decide is worth your precious blood. No other time, as
you've said.

And...
You deleted a plea for help from hundreds of thousands of victims on the
greatest natural or man-made disaster in American history because you
find nothing wrong with it.

>>>It's really funny how this seems to be the only thing you can pull up to
>>>try to assail me with. You mock yourself when you get the basic facts so
>>>wrong and yet go on and on with them.

>>
>>I mock myself? Good grief, Boob. Do you realize how last ditch that
>>is? You are the model of desperation. Do you want all this to stop?
>>Then all you have to do is ask.


Why would I want your continuing embarrassment to stop? You've shown
that you're so desperate to try to wreak insult that it doesn't even
matter what to you whether what you say is true, accurate, or not. You
just picked up Gekko's complaint and have tried to run with it. Except
you have no idea what it actually was. You show yourself to be the fraud
I've led you to show. You have no idea what the supposed abuse is.

*YOU ARE LYING*

Next time you try to pin this abuse business on me, do at least try to
understand what the original poster meant. It's very funny watching you
try to spin it when you don't even know what it was.

Hilarious. Self-mocking.

>>Do I need to repeat that for you? All you have to do is ask me to
>>stop and I will.
>>
>>>Silly, silly, Ray. Foaming at the mouth, urgently flaming but with a
>>>tiny little fire...

>>
>>Odd you should regard it that way since you cannot seem to help
>>responding to me with more excuses for treating others like dirt
>>because they don't leap onto the "I love Pastupido" bandwagon.


<LOL> Ray, I once asked if you could be more stupid. Thank you for
answering. Good job of "show, don't tell."

Only you could see excuses in anything I've written. Of course I treat
you like dirt, but it's from that old-fashioned value. You earn it.

>>All
>>anyone has to do is fawn over your every word when it comes to
>>nutrition no matter how asinine your latest pet theory happens to
>>be.


<LOL> And on it goes. Make it up when there's nothing to actually say.
The single event you're trying to capitalize on had nothing to do with
recipes. Nothing to do with nutrition. And the fact that Google could
straighten it out and the fact that you've been told by others that
you've wrong makes no difference to you. It's "Impeccable Ray" doing the
same old, same old. If you get caught lying and distorting and spinning
and fabricating, just write more and more. Faster and faster, more and
more spurious. Caught lying? Then haddad it by lying more.

>>You are so needy, Boob. So desperately needy.


Oh, look. A professional diagnosis from a guy who makes a living finding
coins in the ears of 10-year-olds.

And...
You deleted a plea for help from hundreds of thousands of victims on the
greatest natural or man-made disaster in American history because you
find nothing wrong with it.

> "Penalties are prepared for mockers, and beatings for the backs of
> fools." -- King Solomon
>
> It is clear that Bob Pastorio is now reaping these penalties and
> beatings.


And here's the fraud, quack, charlatan, wacko fundamentalist,
hyperreligious, fired-for-cause bird of a feather for Ray. What a
perfect pair. Neither one concerned for truth. Neither one concerned for
anything but their own shabby egos. Neither one with any hint of
rationality left.

Sad shadows of normal people.

So, Ray. How much money did you send? How generous are you? And you say
you deleted my plea for help for Katrina victims because you saw nothing
wrong with it? Really? There was nothing wrong with it, so you deleted
it each time I posted it? And you say you know right from wrong? And
that's right for you to do? Nothing wrong with it?

Morally bankrupt, you and Chung. Your parched souls, dry as any desert
would kill a cactus. Both of you only want your songs sung. No thoughts
for others, no generosity. No charity. Drier than the dust of ancient
corpses.

Pastorio
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:24:56 -0400, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and "Bob (this one)" > instead replied:

>Good. And remember, there's no need for blood except when there's a
>disaster you decide is worth your precious blood. No other time, as
>you've said.


I donate regularly, Bob. I have for the past 35 years now. I do an
extra unit by signing a waiver whenever an emergent need is evident.
Once, during a major eruption in Mexico City, I actually donated two
units in one day. I did get part of one back after the plasma was
extracted. Now THAT was a weird process.

>And...
>You deleted a plea for help from hundreds of thousands of victims on the
>greatest natural or man-made disaster in American history because you
>find nothing wrong with it.


It wasn't your writing, Bob. It was someone else's. Why would I
shred it like I did yours? This is all about you, Bob, not Mr Royer,
his message or his cause.

Say, here's an idea for you! Start a recipe contest with a $5.00
PayPal entry fee. Offer a prize of $100.00 to the winner and donate
the extra to the American Red Cross. That would actually be
something YOU could do personally. I might even enter.
--
Ray


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>>Ray Haddad wrote:

>>You harp on me about deleting the message and plea.
>>Well, I delete it because I find nothing wrong with it.


You delete it because you find nothing wrong with it. The bizarre
self-excusing illogicality of this is stunning.

You deleted a plea for help from hundreds of thousands - millions - of
victims on the greatest natural or man-made disaster in American history
because you find nothing wrong with it.

Your corruption is beyond merely egotistical, it's up at mentally ill.

Pastorio
------------------------
Here's another small way some people in food processing can help. There
are millions of people in need. Anything can be useful. A note from a
person on a mailing list I subscribe to:

I was approached by a chef that I know yesterday with what I consider a
good idea of how we can help the displaced residents with future food
needs. He suggested that we dry as much fresh produce as we can so that
it can be easily bagged and sent to those in need. Here in Northern
California we still have lots of production – from tomatoes, corn and
peppers to apples and Asian pears that can all be dried and sent. He
suggested that we set up a grass roots effort locally to get it going. I
agree that it can be effective and it will keep a lot of our local food
supply from becoming compost. Ask the farmers you know to donate their
excess and in exchange donate your time and dehydrators or ovens for
this cause (if you want to go beyond giving money and helping in other
ways).

Jill Nussinow, MS, RD
The Vegetarian Connection - Edible Vegetable Experiences
The Veggie Queen TM
www.theveggiequeen.com
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:31:28 -0400, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and "Bob (this one)" > instead replied:

>You delete it because you find nothing wrong with it. The bizarre
>self-excusing illogicality of this is stunning.
>
>You deleted a plea for help from hundreds of thousands - millions - of
>victims on the greatest natural or man-made disaster in American history
>because you find nothing wrong with it.


I deleted it from MY reply, not your original post, Bob. Your
original post is still quite there. You seem to be barking at the
moon over that aspect.
--
Ray
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