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I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has always
been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong sauce.
What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,
without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this, and
hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.

I've also been thinking about trying mutton. I quick Google does not show
any mutton vendors; I'm wondering if there's a reliable place that sells it
mail order.

Thanks.


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> I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has
> always been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very
> strong sauce. What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to
> being cooked rare, without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any
> comments about this, and hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes,
> would be appreciated.


I have had roast goat, many years ago. Not rare, though - however, it was
not a young goat. None of us were gourmets, either! I was about 18, and a
group of us from uni were spending a few days on a property owned by one of
the guy's parents. The boys butchered a goat and we roasted a leg of it for
dinner. I remember enjoying it, and thinking it was like more strongly
flavoured lamb - probably much like mutton. I seem to recall we started the
meal with vichyssois, served cold.

I probably would do a long slow roast, though, rather than doing it rare.


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"Nobody" > wrote:

> I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has always
> been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong sauce.
> What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,
> without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this, and
> hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.


Like mild venison IMHO.
Depends on how old the animal was, and what it was fed.

I raised some many years ago and fed them sweet feed. They were similar
in flavor to beef, but generally leaner.

Yes, goat is good rare.

>
> I've also been thinking about trying mutton. I quick Google does not show
> any mutton vendors; I'm wondering if there's a reliable place that sells it
> mail order.
>
> Thanks.


Mutton is very, very fatty.
It takes specific cooking techniques to make it edible, but that's a
personal opinion.

I prefer lamb.


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"Nobody" > wrote:

> I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has always
> been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong sauce.
> What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,
> without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this, and
> hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.


If you take a young (a few months old) nanny and roast it (spit or oven)
to medium (not rare!) with garlic slivers inserted in the meat, coated
with olive oil and sprinkled with rosemary leaves and salt and pepper to
taste it is delicious. To me it tastes like a cross between lamb and
veal (sort of).

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That's my favorite way of roasting leg of lamb (except for the "medium"
part), so this is encouraging. I think I may stop my bleating, and order
some goat.

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> In article >,
> "Nobody" > wrote:
>
>> I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has
>> always
>> been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong
>> sauce.
>> What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked
>> rare,
>> without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this,
>> and
>> hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.

>
> If you take a young (a few months old) nanny and roast it (spit or oven)
> to medium (not rare!) with garlic slivers inserted in the meat, coated
> with olive oil and sprinkled with rosemary leaves and salt and pepper to
> taste it is delicious. To me it tastes like a cross between lamb and
> veal (sort of).
>
> D.M.





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Nobody wrote...
> I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has always
> been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong sauce.
> What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,
> without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this, and
> hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.
>
> I've also been thinking about trying mutton. I quick Google does not show
> any mutton vendors; I'm wondering if there's a reliable place that sells it
> mail order.


I ate cabrito (young goat) a few times and thought it was kinda gross. Since
lamb (young sheep) is delicious and mutton often described as gross, I can
only imagine that adult goat is even grosser than cabrito. And I tried the
cabrito when I lived on the border, even the ubiquitous Mexican carnicerías
didn't carry it as a regular item. I still would like to try mutton, but
that is also nearly impossible to find. I'm assuming the reason nobody
carries it is because nobody likes it.
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In article >, Buddah Stalin > wrote:
>Nobody wrote...
>> I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has always
>> been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong sauce.
>> What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,
>> without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this, and
>> hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.
>>
>> I've also been thinking about trying mutton. I quick Google does not show
>> any mutton vendors; I'm wondering if there's a reliable place that sells it
>> mail order.

>
>I ate cabrito (young goat) a few times and thought it was kinda gross. Since
>lamb (young sheep) is delicious and mutton often described as gross, I can
>only imagine that adult goat is even grosser than cabrito. And I tried the
>cabrito when I lived on the border, even the ubiquitous Mexican carnicerías
>didn't carry it as a regular item. I still would like to try mutton, but
>that is also nearly impossible to find. I'm assuming the reason nobody
>carries it is because nobody likes it.


Goat meat is probably the most widely consumed meat of all. The poor
bloody goat doesn't seem to have been granted "religious exemption"
anywhere in the world. :-)

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Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
butcher you can find.

Blergh.

t

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> Nobody wrote...
>> I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has
>> always been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very
>> strong sauce. What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to
>> being cooked rare, without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any
>> comments about this, and hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes,
>> would be appreciated.
>>
>> I've also been thinking about trying mutton. I quick Google does not show
>> any mutton vendors; I'm wondering if there's a reliable place that sells
>> it mail order.

>
> I ate cabrito (young goat) a few times and thought it was kinda gross.
> Since
> lamb (young sheep) is delicious and mutton often described as gross, I can
> only imagine that adult goat is even grosser than cabrito. And I tried
> the
> cabrito when I lived on the border, even the ubiquitous Mexican
> carnicerías
> didn't carry it as a regular item. I still would like to try mutton, but
> that is also nearly impossible to find. I'm assuming the reason nobody
> carries it is because nobody likes it.

==============

It has been many years since I last had goat - but I liked it. Ours was
grilled on a spit IIRC. Yummy!

I've never (knowingly) had mutton but have had (supposedly) lamb and love
it! In fact, I'm hoping to do a leg of lamb with lots of garlic and
rosemary around Easter. Mmmmm.
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On 14 Mar 2006 04:36:57 -0800, "Drongo" >
wrote:

>Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
>it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
>butcher you can find.
>
>Blergh.
>
>t
>

Mutton is stronger tasting and tougher, but it has its place. Some
people prefer mutton because of the taste and are willing to put up
with its slight toughness.

As for goat, donkeys years ago (wrong analogy for goat) I tasted
roasted kid. It wasn't even a kid. It was an unborn baby of a goat
that was slaughtered. It was incredibly tender.

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Kathy in NZ wrote:
> On 14 Mar 2006 04:36:57 -0800, "Drongo" >
> wrote:
>
> >Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
> >it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
> >butcher you can find.
> >
> >Blergh.
> >
> >t
> >

> Mutton is stronger tasting and tougher, but it has its place.
> Some people prefer mutton because of the taste and are willing to put up
> with its slight toughness.


Never had mutton, but I definitely prefer the taste of beef to that of
veal.
>
> As for goat, donkeys years ago (wrong analogy for goat) I tasted
> roasted kid. It wasn't even a kid. It was an unborn baby of a goat
> that was slaughtered. It was incredibly tender.


You can't know how cool it is that you seemingly happily ate a fetus.
It makes me wonder if anyone does that with calves. Like I just wrote,
I prefer the taste of beef over veal, but I could see unborn calf being
a thing, especially in Japan.
>
> Kathy in NZ


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Food Snob wrote:
> Kathy in NZ wrote:
>> On 14 Mar 2006 04:36:57 -0800, "Drongo" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
>>> it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
>>> butcher you can find.
>>>

>> Mutton is stronger tasting and tougher, but it has its place.
>> Some people prefer mutton because of the taste and are willing to put up
>> with its slight toughness.


Mutton should never be tough by the time it gets to the table. Long slow
cooking is the answer. There is no better stewing meat.

> Never had mutton, but I definitely prefer the taste of beef to that of
> veal.


Try to find some Bryan. Like I said, cook it long and slow. It's hard to
find over here (haven't cooked it in years) but apparently it's having a
bit of a revival.

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On 17 Mar 2006 21:39:49 -0800, "Food Snob" > wrote:

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>Kathy in NZ wrote:
>> On 14 Mar 2006 04:36:57 -0800, "Drongo" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
>> >it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
>> >butcher you can find.
>> >
>> >Blergh.
>> >
>> >t
>> >

>> Mutton is stronger tasting and tougher, but it has its place.
>> Some people prefer mutton because of the taste and are willing to put up
>> with its slight toughness.

>
>Never had mutton, but I definitely prefer the taste of beef to that of
>veal.


Ever eaten a doner kebab? You've had mutton.

>>
>> As for goat, donkeys years ago (wrong analogy for goat) I tasted
>> roasted kid. It wasn't even a kid. It was an unborn baby of a goat
>> that was slaughtered. It was incredibly tender.

>
>You can't know how cool it is that you seemingly happily ate a fetus.
>It makes me wonder if anyone does that with calves. Like I just wrote,
>I prefer the taste of beef over veal, but I could see unborn calf being
>a thing, especially in Japan.


I used to hang around and share a flat with with a Sri Lankan (sorry,
dude - Tamil) guy. Once, he started shelling a boiled egg and found an
almost complete chicken fetus inside. Without even pausing to think,
he pulled it out of the shell and bit it in half, giving me a 'whatya
looking at me like that for?' look, then suggesting that I eat the
other half as it was 'just meat' at the end of the day...

I really regret losing contact with him - he was a really cool guy, a
shit-hot drummer and a fantastic cook.

On a related note, my nan found an almost complete chicken fetus in an
egg she'd cooked the other week - though this one was apparently
rotten through and made the kitchen smell like death for a couple of
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:06:34 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew @ Rockface"
> wrote:

>Food Snob wrote:
>> Kathy in NZ wrote:
>>> On 14 Mar 2006 04:36:57 -0800, "Drongo" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
>>>> it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
>>>> butcher you can find.
>>>>
>>> Mutton is stronger tasting and tougher, but it has its place.
>>> Some people prefer mutton because of the taste and are willing to put up
>>> with its slight toughness.

>
>Mutton should never be tough by the time it gets to the table. Long slow
>cooking is the answer. There is no better stewing meat.
>
>> Never had mutton, but I definitely prefer the taste of beef to that of
>> veal.

>
>Try to find some Bryan. Like I said, cook it long and slow. It's hard to
>find over here (haven't cooked it in years) but apparently it's having a
>bit of a revival.


I seem to remember my nan making the odd mutton stew when I was
little. I can't really remember what it tasted like now...
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NeedforSwede2 wrote:
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> says...
>> Understood. Never seen goat or mutton advertised as goat down here, but
>> then we don't have a large West Indian population. I think there's
>> someone from Devon living somewhere in Cornwall but that's about as
>> ethnic as it gets
>>

> Used to live in Luton which had a big West indian community (annual
> Carnival), big Irish community (massive Pat's day celebrations, now a 7
> day festival), and Asian community of all faiths and nationalities, so
> all their weddings, festivals, and religious events. All which meant
> good eating if you have an open mind.
>
> Now I live in Warrington and it has taken 5 years to find a decent Asian
> grocer to get things like catering size packs of spices and fresh chilis
> and huge bunches of Corriander and Parsely.
> bought a packet spice mix for Sheek Kebabs, and a packet mix Almond
> Rasmali while I was in there this weekend.
>
> Until now, If I wanted anything Indian/Chinese/ethnic/West Indian it
> meant heading into manchester or Liverpool and only as much as I could
> carry the train because city parking was either silly priced or non-
> existant.
> As they have a Halal butcher onsite, I reckon I might get goat from them
> pretty easy.



I used
http://www.thai4uk.com/ recently and they were excellent. They
can even send fresh veg by post. No halal down here (I think they have
one in Plymouth). Used to have a Chinese emporium but that shit down
around 20 years ago and again the nearest is Plymouth. On the other hand
we do have lots of fish

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> > On 14 Mar 2006 04:36:57 -0800, "Drongo" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
> > >it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
> > >butcher you can find.
> > >


You don't see any mutton for sale here in Canada but there's lots of
lamb. The cheaper cuts seem to have pretty big bones. Weird eh?

Cam

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Cam wrote:
>>> On 14 Mar 2006 04:36:57 -0800, "Drongo" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
>>>> it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
>>>> butcher you can find.
>>>>

>
> You don't see any mutton for sale here in Canada but there's lots of
> lamb. The cheaper cuts seem to have pretty big bones. Weird eh?


Moose! Moose! Moose!

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Andrew @ Rockface wrote:
> Cam wrote:
> >>> On 14 Mar 2006 04:36:57 -0800, "Drongo" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
> >>>> it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
> >>>> butcher you can find.
> >>>>

> >
> > You don't see any mutton for sale here in Canada but there's lots of
> > lamb. The cheaper cuts seem to have pretty big bones. Weird eh?

>
> Moose! Moose! Moose!
>


My father-out-law lives in the North and occasionally gets some moose
meat from friends. They call it bush-beef but it's better than beef,
lots better.

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On 21 Mar 2006 06:30:41 -0800, "Cam" > wrote:

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>> > On 14 Mar 2006 04:36:57 -0800, "Drongo" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
>> > >it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
>> > >butcher you can find.
>> > >

>
>You don't see any mutton for sale here in Canada but there's lots of
>lamb. The cheaper cuts seem to have pretty big bones. Weird eh?
>


You can get mutton in Toronto at some Halal butcher shops and Arabic
grocery stores.


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Cam wrote:
> Andrew @ Rockface wrote:
>> Cam wrote:
>>>>> On 14 Mar 2006 04:36:57 -0800, "Drongo" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
>>>>>> it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
>>>>>> butcher you can find.
>>>>>>
>>> You don't see any mutton for sale here in Canada but there's lots of
>>> lamb. The cheaper cuts seem to have pretty big bones. Weird eh?


I was going to mention the "eh?" at the end of your post but though that
may be overdoing the Canadian stereotyping

>> Moose! Moose! Moose!

>
> My father-out-law lives in the North and occasionally gets some moose
> meat from friends. They call it bush-beef but it's better than beef,
> lots better.


Not had moose but have been out moose (well, elk actually) spotting in
Norway. Never saw one but did find loads of poo.

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