I got word back from the state in one day! about that 200 Proof I
thought I purchased a long time ago. Apparently I was right. They did
sell it at one time so my memory is okay, thanks guys for the doubts
but now you need a special permit and a reason to purchase it.

essence of the email I received, minus phone numbers and what not:

Sorry to say but this product is no longer available to the public.
The only way this is obtainable is if your are a hospital,Dr.'s
office, etc...
And they must apply for a permit to purchase it.
Special Services Department

In article . com>,
" > wrote:

> I got word back from the state in one day! about that 200 Proof I
> thought I purchased a long time ago. Apparently I was right. They did
> sell it at one time so my memory is okay, thanks guys for the doubts
> but now you need a special permit and a reason to purchase it.
>
> essence of the email I received, minus phone numbers and what not:
>
> Sorry to say but this product is no longer available to the public.
> The only way this is obtainable is if your are a hospital,Dr.'s
> office, etc...
> And they must apply for a permit to purchase it.
> Special Services Department
>

Facinating...

One of the 100% alcohols we have at work is Anhydrous Methanol.

Not exactly drinkable. <G> We use it for fixing slides.

There IS reagent alcohol that is 100%, but it's 90% Ethanol, 5%
Isopropanol and 5% Methanol.

Not exactly drinkable......
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article . com>,
> " > wrote:
>
>> I got word back from the state in one day! about that 200 Proof I
>> thought I purchased a long time ago. Apparently I was right. They did
>> sell it at one time so my memory is okay, thanks guys for the doubts
>> but now you need a special permit and a reason to purchase it.
>>
>> essence of the email I received, minus phone numbers and what not:
>>
>> Sorry to say but this product is no longer available to the public.
>> The only way this is obtainable is if your are a hospital,Dr.'s
>> office, etc...
>> And they must apply for a permit to purchase it.
>> Special Services Department
>>
>
> Facinating...
>
> One of the 100% alcohols we have at work is Anhydrous Methanol.
>
> Not exactly drinkable. <G> We use it for fixing slides.
>
> There IS reagent alcohol that is 100%, but it's 90% Ethanol, 5%
> Isopropanol and 5% Methanol.
>
> Not exactly drinkable......

I can't imagine why anyone would want or need to drink 200 proof alcohol
anyway.

Jill

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article . com>,
> > " > wrote:
> >
> >> I got word back from the state in one day! about that 200 Proof I
> >> thought I purchased a long time ago. Apparently I was right. They did
> >> sell it at one time so my memory is okay, thanks guys for the doubts
> >> but now you need a special permit and a reason to purchase it.
> >>
> >> essence of the email I received, minus phone numbers and what not:
> >>
> >> Sorry to say but this product is no longer available to the public.
> >> The only way this is obtainable is if your are a hospital,Dr.'s
> >> office, etc...
> >> And they must apply for a permit to purchase it.
> >> Special Services Department
> >>
> >
> > Facinating...
> >
> > One of the 100% alcohols we have at work is Anhydrous Methanol.
> >
> > Not exactly drinkable. <G> We use it for fixing slides.
> >
> > There IS reagent alcohol that is 100%, but it's 90% Ethanol, 5%
> > Isopropanol and 5% Methanol.
> >
> > Not exactly drinkable......
>
> I can't imagine why anyone would want or need to drink 200 proof alcohol
> anyway.
>
> Jill
>
>

Indeed. ;-)

The 190 proof is more than strong enough for spiking!

Back when I was in College, the Fencing club parties would use Everclear
190 for "Trashcan punch".

4 liters Ginger Ale
2 quarts Rainbow Sherbet
1 liter Everclear 190

Could not even taste the alcohol...
You'd be on your A** before you knew it if you were not careful!

The Fencers were a wild bunch. <lol> I tool 2 semesters of foil, then
spent the other two years fighting Saber. It was more realistic so FAR
more fun. :-D

I did not like Epee. The blade was too stiff and it hurt WAY too much if
you got a sadistic opponent. Saber was bad enough with the stripe shaped
bruises I got on my arms (and sometimes across the back!) after a
tournament.

Damn it hurt to get popped across the back! Never lunge if your
opponents blade is up. They can pop you across the top of the mask and
the blade acts like a whip if your parry is not quick enough!
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message news:Omelet->
The 190 proof is more than strong enough for spiking!
>
> Back when I was in College, the Fencing club parties would use Everclear
> 190 for "Trashcan punch".
>
> 4 liters Ginger Ale
> 2 quarts Rainbow Sherbet
> 1 liter Everclear 190
>
> Could not even taste the alcohol...
> You'd be on your A** before you knew it if you were not careful!

Was on the receiving end of one of those deadly punches when in university.
Two glasses in my 85 lb/4'10" body left me sick for 2 days. What a time for
my parents to make a surprise visit!!

Gabby

In article >,
"Gabby" > wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message news:Omelet->
> The 190 proof is more than strong enough for spiking!
> >
> > Back when I was in College, the Fencing club parties would use Everclear
> > 190 for "Trashcan punch".
> >
> > 4 liters Ginger Ale
> > 2 quarts Rainbow Sherbet
> > 1 liter Everclear 190
> >
> > Could not even taste the alcohol...
> > You'd be on your A** before you knew it if you were not careful!
>
> Was on the receiving end of one of those deadly punches when in university.
> Two glasses in my 85 lb/4'10" body left me sick for 2 days. What a time for
> my parents to make a surprise visit!!
>
> Gabby
>
>

Actually, it was 4 x 2 liter bottles, so 8 liters. My bad...

Not that that makes much difference. ;-)

At least WE got warned!
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

jmcquown wrote:
> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article . com>,
> > " > wrote:
> >
> >> I got word back from the state in one day! about that 200 Proof I
> >> thought I purchased a long time ago. Apparently I was right. They did
> >> sell it at one time so my memory is okay, thanks guys for the doubts
> >> but now you need a special permit and a reason to purchase it.
> >>
> >> essence of the email I received, minus phone numbers and what not:
> >>
> >> Sorry to say but this product is no longer available to the public.
> >> The only way this is obtainable is if your are a hospital,Dr.'s
> >> office, etc...
> >> And they must apply for a permit to purchase it.
> >> Special Services Department
> >>
> >
> > Facinating...
> >
> > One of the 100% alcohols we have at work is Anhydrous Methanol.
> >
> > Not exactly drinkable. <G> We use it for fixing slides.
> >
> > There IS reagent alcohol that is 100%, but it's 90% Ethanol, 5%
> > Isopropanol and 5% Methanol.
> >
> > Not exactly drinkable......
>
> I can't imagine why anyone would want or need to drink 200 proof alcohol
> anyway.
>
> Jill

Try, you can imagine.

The 200 proof was cut down for parties. In pints, it's quite compact
and takes up half the space of the usual alcohol bottles since it's
literally twice as potent.

Since this was a surgical research unit, there apparently were many
uses for it since I found 200 proof bottles in abundance, along with
190 proof 55 gallon drums. My area of research did not involve using
the alcohol so I do not know why the other researchers needed it but
many were doing the transplantation research that led later to the
common kidney, liver, and heart transplants of today, I would not be
surprised if there was a genuine need for it, aside from parties at the
research unit.

Having a really big whiskey distiller nearby and not many regulations
as today, this was all quite a simple affair in ordering and delivery.

jmcquown wrote:
> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
>>In article . com>,
>> " > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I got word back from the state in one day! about that 200 Proof I
>>>thought I purchased a long time ago. Apparently I was right. They did
>>>sell it at one time so my memory is okay, thanks guys for the doubts
>>> but now you need a special permit and a reason to purchase it.
>>>
>>>essence of the email I received, minus phone numbers and what not:
>>>
>>>Sorry to say but this product is no longer available to the public.
>>>The only way this is obtainable is if your are a hospital,Dr.'s
>>>office, etc...
>>>And they must apply for a permit to purchase it.
>>>Special Services Department
>>>
>>
>>Facinating...
>>
>>One of the 100% alcohols we have at work is Anhydrous Methanol.
>>
>>Not exactly drinkable. <G> We use it for fixing slides.
>>
>>There IS reagent alcohol that is 100%, but it's 90% Ethanol, 5%
>>Isopropanol and 5% Methanol.
>>
>>Not exactly drinkable......
>
>
> I can't imagine why anyone would want or need to drink 200 proof alcohol
> anyway.
>
> Jill
>
>
When we lived in Saudi Arabia a lot of folks had stills with 5 or 6 foot
reflux columns and in two or three runs they would make 200 proof, aka
100% alcohol. Cut four times with distilled water a gallon of the stuff
wold be 4 gallons of drinking whiskey. The pure quill stuff had no
esters in it so generally no headaches. Take an unfinished oak axe
handle, chip it up and turn it to charcoal in the oven, put some in each
bottle and it turned the amber of sipping whiskey. Any outfit with that
many chemical and petroleum engineers is going to turn out some good stuff.

Funny part is that the Saudi merchants sold lots of flavorings that
folks used to add to their alky to make liquers. Some fine beer and wine
makers lived there in the international community where we were too. Of
course if you were caught you lost your job, sometimes your freedom for
a while, and were deported pretty quick. Still, quite an accomplishment
and a lot of work just for a drink.

George

George Shirley wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>
>>> In article . com>,
>>> " > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I got word back from the state in one day! about that 200 Proof I
>>>> thought I purchased a long time ago. Apparently I was right. They did
>>>> sell it at one time so my memory is okay, thanks guys for the doubts
>>>> but now you need a special permit and a reason to purchase it.
>>>>
>>>> essence of the email I received, minus phone numbers and what not:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to say but this product is no longer available to the public.
>>>> The only way this is obtainable is if your are a hospital,Dr.'s
>>>> office, etc...
>>>> And they must apply for a permit to purchase it.
>>>> Special Services Department
>>>>
>>>
>>> Facinating...
>>>
>>> One of the 100% alcohols we have at work is Anhydrous Methanol.
>>>
>>> Not exactly drinkable. <G> We use it for fixing slides.
>>>
>>> There IS reagent alcohol that is 100%, but it's 90% Ethanol, 5%
>>> Isopropanol and 5% Methanol.
>>>
>>> Not exactly drinkable......
>>
>>
>>
>> I can't imagine why anyone would want or need to drink 200 proof alcohol
>> anyway.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
> When we lived in Saudi Arabia a lot of folks had stills with 5 or 6 foot
> reflux columns and in two or three runs they would make 200 proof, aka
> 100% alcohol. Cut four times with distilled water a gallon of the stuff
> wold be 4 gallons of drinking whiskey. The pure quill stuff had no
> esters in it so generally no headaches. Take an unfinished oak axe
> handle, chip it up and turn it to charcoal in the oven, put some in each
> bottle and it turned the amber of sipping whiskey. Any outfit with that
> many chemical and petroleum engineers is going to turn out some good stuff.
>
> Funny part is that the Saudi merchants sold lots of flavorings that
> folks used to add to their alky to make liquers. Some fine beer and wine
> makers lived there in the international community where we were too. Of
> course if you were caught you lost your job, sometimes your freedom for
> a while, and were deported pretty quick. Still, quite an accomplishment
> and a lot of work just for a drink.
>
> George
>


They thought they were making 200 proof, but really it was just below
192 proof. (if they were chemical engineers, they knew it wasn't really
200 proof because 192 is a limit, but 200 sounds a lot better than 190.)

But 190-ish is certainly close enough for govt work. :-)

The best moonshiners throw away the first runs (too much methanol) and
the last runs (too much higher alcohols.) It sounds like your guys took
the middles and then distilled them again.

Bob


Bob

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:22:20 -0600, George Shirley
> wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>
>>>In article . com>,
>>> " > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> Jill
>>
>>

At one time I had a copy of a booklet called "The Blue Flame" which
was an instruction manual for making alcohol. It was written by
Aramco employees in Saudi Arabia. Might still have it. BTW Everclear
is still sold in Penna last I knew.
Allan
>When we lived in Saudi Arabia a lot of folks had stills with 5 or 6 foot
>reflux columns and in two or three runs they would make 200 proof, aka
>100% alcohol. Cut four times with distilled water a gallon of the stuff
>wold be 4 gallons of drinking whiskey. The pure quill stuff had no
>esters in it so generally no headaches. Take an unfinished oak axe
>handle, chip it up and turn it to charcoal in the oven, put some in each
>bottle and it turned the amber of sipping whiskey. Any outfit with that
>many chemical and petroleum engineers is going to turn out some good stuff.
>
>Funny part is that the Saudi merchants sold lots of flavorings that
>folks used to add to their alky to make liquers. Some fine beer and wine
>makers lived there in the international community where we were too. Of
>course if you were caught you lost your job, sometimes your freedom for
>a while, and were deported pretty quick. Still, quite an accomplishment
>and a lot of work just for a drink.
>
>George

Allan Matthews wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:22:20 -0600, George Shirley
> > wrote:
>
>
>>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article . com>,
" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Jill
>>>
>>>
>
>
> At one time I had a copy of a booklet called "The Blue Flame" which
> was an instruction manual for making alcohol. It was written by
> Aramco employees in Saudi Arabia. Might still have it. BTW Everclear
> is still sold in Penna last I knew.
> Allan

I still have one myself Allan. They were issued to American, Canadian,
and European employees of Aramco before it became Saudi Aramco. full
instructions on building stills and the warehouse part numbers of all
the stuff needed to build one. Everclear is still sold in Louisiana and
Texas to my knowledge.

George

wrote:

> I got word back from the state in one day! about that 200 Proof I
> thought I purchased a long time ago. Apparently I was right. They did
> sell it at one time so my memory is okay, thanks guys for the doubts
> but now you need a special permit and a reason to purchase it.
>
> essence of the email I received, minus phone numbers and what not:
>
> Sorry to say but this product is no longer available to the public.
> The only way this is obtainable is if your are a hospital,Dr.'s
> office, etc...
> And they must apply for a permit to purchase it.
> Special Services Department
>

In Nevada you can get "Ever Clear" which is i think something like 199
proof, iirc 200 proof would be a solid at room temp.
---
JL

Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
> In Nevada you can get "Ever Clear" which is i think something
> like 199 proof, iirc 200 proof would be a solid at room temp.

YDNRC.

Mark Thorson wrote:
> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> >
> > In Nevada you can get "Ever Clear" which is i think something
> > like 199 proof, iirc 200 proof would be a solid at room temp.
>
> YDNRC.

Okay, I chuckled although I don't know what the acronym means.

You Do Not Remember Correctly ?

I doubt 200 proof become solid unless you're near the north pole,
assuming it's still cold there

I suspect that Nevada does not get that chilly although I was stranded
outside Winnemucca in winter, thumbing for a ride out of town, out of
the state, out of the west.

wrote:

>
> Mark Thorson wrote:
> > Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> > >
> > > In Nevada you can get "Ever Clear" which is i think something
> > > like 199 proof, iirc 200 proof would be a solid at room temp.
> >
> > YDNRC.
>
> Okay, I chuckled although I don't know what the acronym means.
>
> You Do Not Remember Correctly ?
>
> I doubt 200 proof become solid unless you're near the north pole,
> assuming it's still cold there

I wouldn't worry about that, ethanol has a freezing point of -114.1C or
-173.38F.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

In article >,
"Default User" > wrote:

> wrote:
>
> >
> > Mark Thorson wrote:
> > > Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In Nevada you can get "Ever Clear" which is i think something
> > > > like 199 proof, iirc 200 proof would be a solid at room temp.
> > >
> > > YDNRC.
> >
> > Okay, I chuckled although I don't know what the acronym means.
> >
> > You Do Not Remember Correctly ?
> >
> > I doubt 200 proof become solid unless you're near the north pole,
> > assuming it's still cold there
>
> I wouldn't worry about that, ethanol has a freezing point of -114.1C or
> -173.38F.
>
>
>
> Brian

That's why Vodka is best if kept in the freezer, along with frozen shot
glasses. ;-)
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

wrote:
> I got word back from the state in one day! about that 200 Proof I
> thought I purchased a long time ago. Apparently I was right. They did
> sell it at one time so my memory is okay, thanks guys for the doubts
> but now you need a special permit and a reason to purchase it.
>
> essence of the email I received, minus phone numbers and what not:
>
> Sorry to say but this product is no longer available to the public.
> The only way this is obtainable is if your are a hospital,Dr.'s
> office, etc...
> And they must apply for a permit to purchase it.
> Special Services Department

Purifying ethanol to purity is a silly waste of resources if you're
going to drink it. The process is laborious and expensive. The
difference between 190 and 200 is not meaningful for consumption, but
getting out that last 5% of water is not easy. Water and ethanol like
each other, a lot.

Drinking concentrations of ethanol higher than you can achieve with
fermentation (and that includes fortified wines like port) is icky.
Training your body to accept such w/o retching is training it to accept
poison. I'll stick with 4-10% beers, or wines that are natural (though
I'm not really big on wine anyway).

The reason they restrict the pure shit is probably because they figure
you're using it for something related to illegal drugs or something.

--Bryan