I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
just baby green beans or a different species?

nb

notbob wrote:
> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
> just baby green beans or a different species?
>
They are a variety of green bean, not just babies. Thinner, meaty,
very flavorful, need only the briefest cooking. Interestingly, there
is at least one variety that has all the other characteristics of
haricots verts except they are yellow. I'm going to try to grow some
this summer, as well as the green ones. And some of our favorite
Kentucky Wonders. -aem

"aem" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> notbob wrote:
>> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
>> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
>> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
>> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
>> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
>> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
>> just baby green beans or a different species?
>>
> They are a variety of green bean, not just babies. Thinner, meaty,
> very flavorful, need only the briefest cooking. Interestingly, there
> is at least one variety that has all the other characteristics of
> haricots verts except they are yellow. I'm going to try to grow some
> this summer, as well as the green ones. And some of our favorite
> Kentucky Wonders. -aem
>

Do you know of some sources for the green "haricots verts"? I wonder if
you're referring to the category known as French Filet beans.

Doug Kanter wrote:
>
> Do you know of some sources for the green "haricots verts"? I wonder if
> you're referring to the category known as French Filet beans.

I think there are various names, including French Filet. Those I've
grown are from Renee's Garden seed company, available at nurseries and
by mail/online. The first two on the left of this page are of the
haricots verts type.

https://www.reneesgarden.com/seeds/s.../vegB.htm#bean

Another seed company site shows a Filet Bush variety.

http://www.kitchengardenseeds.com/cg...ct&_category=3

#1280 Vernandon Filet Bush Beans: 50-60 days
Filet beans are a gourmet gardener's dream come true and Vernandon is
an authentic haricot vert, coming to us from a private breeder in
France.

This one is also called Filet:

#1260 Émérite Filet Pole Beans: 50-60 days
Now, pole bean enthusiasts can have their filets and eat them too!
Émérite is a true filet bean from France, generously borne in
cascading clusters on graceful vines growing to 8'. Pole beans
out-produce bush beans due to their protracted harvest and, in this
case, what a harvest! Émérite sets heavy yields of uniformly slim,
1/4" filet beans. Special breeding work to slow seed production
within the bean allows harvest at any stage from teeny baby filets to
mature filet beans at 7" long. The vines are beautiful - delicate
rose-pink blossoms contrast with the large, soft green, deeply-veined
leaves.

Beans have been an easy and reliable crop for us in years past. And
they freeze very well when the harvest outruns you. Parboil for 30
seconds, drain, dry, spread on a pan in the freezer, then bag when
frozen. -aem

"aem" > wrote in message
ups.com...
Doug Kanter wrote:
>
> Do you know of some sources for the green "haricots verts"? I wonder if
> you're referring to the category known as French Filet beans.

I think there are various names, including French Filet. Those I've
grown are from Renee's Garden seed company, available at nurseries and
by mail/online. The first two on the left of this page are of the
haricots verts type.

https://www.reneesgarden.com/seeds/s.../vegB.htm#bean

Another seed company site shows a Filet Bush variety.

http://www.kitchengardenseeds.com/cg...ct&_category=3

#1280 Vernandon Filet Bush Beans: 50-60 days
Filet beans are a gourmet gardener's dream come true and Vernandon is
an authentic haricot vert, coming to us from a private breeder in
France.

This one is also called Filet:

#1260 Émérite Filet Pole Beans: 50-60 days
Now, pole bean enthusiasts can have their filets and eat them too!
Émérite is a true filet bean from France, generously borne in
cascading clusters on graceful vines growing to 8'. Pole beans
out-produce bush beans due to their protracted harvest and, in this
case, what a harvest! Émérite sets heavy yields of uniformly slim,
1/4" filet beans. Special breeding work to slow seed production
within the bean allows harvest at any stage from teeny baby filets to
mature filet beans at 7" long. The vines are beautiful - delicate
rose-pink blossoms contrast with the large, soft green, deeply-veined
leaves.

Beans have been an easy and reliable crop for us in years past. And
they freeze very well when the harvest outruns you. Parboil for 30
seconds, drain, dry, spread on a pan in the freezer, then bag when
frozen. -aem

=======================

In case you have a crop failure for some reason, be sure to grow some of the
more common hybrids, like the Kentucky Wonder you mentioned. Harvested when
very young, they're every bit as good as the French hybrids.

aem wrote:

> notbob wrote:
>
>>I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
>>and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
>>sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
>>high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
>>I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
>>They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
>>just baby green beans or a different species?
>>
>
> They are a variety of green bean, not just babies. Thinner, meaty,
> very flavorful, need only the briefest cooking. Interestingly, there
> is at least one variety that has all the other characteristics of
> haricots verts except they are yellow. I'm going to try to grow some
> this summer, as well as the green ones. And some of our favorite
> Kentucky Wonders. -aem
>

Kentucky Wonders are amazing! They will grow here into late October.
They are a nice canning and pickling bean as well as freezing and fresh
eating. They really are great performers.

notbob wrote:

> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
> just baby green beans or a different species?
>
> nb

Likely a different variety. Haricot verts = green beans. We grow a lot
of them. Some varieties are better for preserving and others a re
better for eating right now. A prudent gardener grows both or learns to
pick the preserving beans earlier.

notbob wrote:

> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
> just baby green beans or a different species?

haricots ..... beans
vert....... green

haricot verts ...... green beans

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote:
>
>> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
>> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
>> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
>> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
>> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
>> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
>> just baby green beans or a different species?
>
> haricots ..... beans
> vert....... green
>
> haricot verts ...... green beans
>

Very helpful. Really.
He didn't ask what haricot verts translates to.
If you don't know the answer, maybe it's best to find out from someone who
does?

Nexis wrote:

> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > notbob wrote:
> >
> >> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
> >> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
> >> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
> >> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
> >> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
> >> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
> >> just baby green beans or a different species?
> >
> > haricots ..... beans
> > vert....... green
> >
> > haricot verts ...... green beans
> >
>
> Very helpful. Really.
> He didn't ask what haricot verts translates to.
> If you don't know the answer, maybe it's best to find out from someone who
> does?

I thought it was helpful. Haricots verts is French for green beans. They may
be a different species of the more popularly commercial varieties of beans
here, but they are still green beans.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Nexis wrote:
>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > notbob wrote:
>> >
>> >> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
>> >> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
>> >> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
>> >> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous.
>> >> Now,
>> >> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
>> >> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
>> >> just baby green beans or a different species?
>> >
>> > haricots ..... beans
>> > vert....... green
>> >
>> > haricot verts ...... green beans
>> >
>>
>> Very helpful. Really.
>> He didn't ask what haricot verts translates to.
>> If you don't know the answer, maybe it's best to find out from someone
>> who
>> does?
>
> I thought it was helpful. Haricots verts is French for green beans. They
> may
> be a different species of the more popularly commercial varieties of beans
> here, but they are still green beans.

What's with you tonight?

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:

> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Nexis wrote:
> >
> >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > notbob wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
> >> >> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
> >> >> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
> >> >> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous.
> >> >> Now,
> >> >> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
> >> >> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
> >> >> just baby green beans or a different species?
> >> >
> >> > haricots ..... beans
> >> > vert....... green
> >> >
> >> > haricot verts ...... green beans
> >> >
> >>
> >> Very helpful. Really.
> >> He didn't ask what haricot verts translates to.
> >> If you don't know the answer, maybe it's best to find out from someone
> >> who
> >> does?
> >
> > I thought it was helpful. Haricots verts is French for green beans. They
> > may
> > be a different species of the more popularly commercial varieties of beans
> > here, but they are still green beans.
>
> What's with you tonight?
>

I am beginning to wonder. The OP was asking about haricots verts. It translates
directly from French as green beans, which is what they are. I had haricots
verts in France, and they were green beans, just like the green beans we have at
home. I don't know why Nexis took offence.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...

>>> > haricots ..... beans
>>> > vert....... green
>>> >
>>> > haricot verts ...... green beans
>>> >
>>>
>>> Very helpful. Really.
>>> He didn't ask what haricot verts translates to.
>>> If you don't know the answer, maybe it's best to find out from someone
>>> who
>>> does?
>>
>> I thought it was helpful. Haricots verts is French for green beans. They
>> may
>> be a different species of the more popularly commercial varieties of
>> beans
>> here, but they are still green beans.
>
> What's with you tonight?
>
> nancy
>

He's right. They're just green beans. Restaurants and seed catalogs may
adorn them with cutsie names, but: Kingdom, phylum, class, order, family,
genus, species, variety. That last word is the key: Variety. The "French"
ones are nothing but a different variety of green bean ( Phaseolus Lunatus),
just like Blue Lake 274, Blue Lake 47, Burpee Stringless, Contender,
Kentucky 125, Burpee Tenderpod, Greencrop, Kentucky King, Greencrop,
Heaveyweight II, and a few hundred others.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Nexis wrote:
>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > notbob wrote:
>> >
>> >> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
>> >> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
>> >> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
>> >> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous.
>> >> Now,
>> >> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
>> >> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
>> >> just baby green beans or a different species?
>> >
>> > haricots ..... beans
>> > vert....... green
>> >
>> > haricot verts ...... green beans
>> >
>>
>> Very helpful. Really.
>> He didn't ask what haricot verts translates to.
>> If you don't know the answer, maybe it's best to find out from someone
>> who
>> does?
>
> I thought it was helpful. Haricots verts is French for green beans. They
> may
> be a different species of the more popularly commercial varieties of beans
> here, but they are still green beans.
>

Once again, he didn't ask if they were green beans. He KNOWS they are green
beans. He asked if they are a different variety (to which the answer is YES)
or just baby green beans.
I'm sorry if I came off snippy, I'm very stressed lately for reasons that
have nothing to do with this. It was just the umpteenth answer that didn't
answer anything and I lost it

kimberly

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:16:54 -0600, notbob > wrote:

>I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
>and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
>sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
>high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
>I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
>They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
>just baby green beans or a different species?

Believe it or not, Safeway (No. Cal.) carries C&W brand "Tiny Green
Beans" also labeled "Haricots Verts - Imported from Frace".

They're not bad at all.

Not cheap but not out of the ballpark at, if memory serves, $3/12 oz.,
sometimes on sale for $2 - 2.50. Watch out for the occasional stems
that don't get filtered out.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:43:23 -0800, J. Eric Durbin
> wrote:

>Beans" also labeled "Haricots Verts - Imported from Frace".

"France" of course. Or was that "Thrace"?

On 2006-01-25, J Eric Durbin > wrote:

> Believe it or not, Safeway (No. Cal.) carries C&W brand "Tiny Green
> Beans" also labeled "Haricots Verts - Imported from Frace".

Yes, I found these in a NorCal Safeway in the produce dept. They were
very fresh and $4 for about 10-12ozs.

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2006-01-25, J Eric Durbin > wrote:
>
> > Believe it or not, Safeway (No. Cal.) carries C&W brand "Tiny Green
> > Beans" also labeled "Haricots Verts - Imported from Frace".
>
> Yes, I found these in a NorCal Safeway in the produce dept. They were
> very fresh and $4 for about 10-12ozs.

Trader Joe's also sells frozen haricots verts. I find them a little
_too_ skinny and stick-like, and actually like the C&W product a little
better, sacrilegious though that may be.... -aem

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
> just baby green beans or a different species?
>
> nb

They're not just babies, they are an actual variety of green bean, sometimes
called French Filet beans. They're more tender, so they only need the
briefest cooking time, and more flavorful than their larger sized cousins.
Don't fall for the "French style" green beans which are just regular ol'
green beans sliced vertically to look thinner. The real ones are much
better. They're a snap bean, with no string to speak of, so they're easy to
prepare.
My favorite way to prepare them is to sauté with a drizzle of blood orange
avocado oil, minced shallots, and a half of a blood orange squeezed over
just prior to serving. Finish with a sprinkle of Maldon sea salt, and you'll
be in heaven.

kimberly

notbob wrote:
> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous.
> Now, I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like
> these. They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So,
> are these just baby green beans or a different species?
>
> nb

I had an interesting discussion with my father about hericot verts. He
insisted they were not *green beans*. Uh, then what are they? He replied,
"I don't know but they aren't green beans." I finally figured out he was
trying to convince me he'd found a fancy "new" vegetable and was a little
appalled when I said he'd bought just another variety of green beans. I'll
bet he paid more for the guy in the produce department to spell the sign for
'hericot verts' correctly, too. I should tell him to buy some broccoflower!
LOL

Jill

notbob wrote:
> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous.
> Now, I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like
> these. They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So,
> are these just baby green beans or a different species?
>
> nb

To answer your original post, haricot verts are simply very thin snap beans,
not a different variety. No idea why they cost more than regular snap beans
when you get less bang for your buck.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> To answer your original post, haricot verts are simply very thin snap beans,
> not a different variety. No idea why they cost more than regular snap beans
> when you get less bang for your buck.

They are picked young. That means more selective harvesting and a lower yield.

In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> I recall reading someone reminiscing their near monastic life in Paris
> and how they always looked forward to a simple meal of haricot verts
> sauted in butter. So, the other day when I ran across some in our
> high-end supermarket, I bought them and gave it a try. Fabulous. Now,
> I know h/v are just green beans, but I've never seen any like these.
> They were only 4-5" long and about a 1/4" in diameter. So, are these
> just baby green beans or a different species?
>
> nb

I believe they are -- or can be -- a different varietal.
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> I believe they are -- or can be -- a different varietal.
> --
Yes, as already established early in this thread before the boys
started joking about translations. It would probably be more accurate
to call them French filet beans, but haricots verts is well established
in common usage. Jill might be right about what actually gets
marketed some places but not about the C&W nor the Trader Joe's frozen
product. Having grown several varieties I can tell you that a young,
small, "regular" bean like Kentucky Wonder or Blue Lake cannot possibly
pass itself off as a French filet or haricot vert. The basic shape is
noticeably thinner, even when they're seven inches long. -aem

In article . com>,
"aem" > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >
> > I believe they are -- or can be -- a different varietal.
> > --
> Yes, as already established early in this thread before the boys
> started joking about translations.

Whoops. I don't read everything before i make my own posts.
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