OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> In article >,
> "Default User" > wrote:
>
> > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >
> > > am I going to have to create to filter out those a-holes that are
> > > crossposting that drivel???
> >
> >
> > You're better off with a newsreader than can filter crossposts. That
> > way you usually don't have to killfile individuals, just the cross
> > groups.
> >
> >
> >
> > Brian
>
> At the moment, I'm killfiling by key words. :-)
>
> That's actually VERY effective.
>
> "kill if subject contains the word XXXXX"

It works pretty well, especially in weeding out political messages.

> It does not killfile authors unless I tell it to.
> I set up a keyword filter for "from" if the from (author) contains
> the word "Chung". Since he always posts with his name even tho' he
> changes ID's frequently, I should never see a post from him again
> using that as the filter criteria.

In XanaNews, the killfile is distinct from the filter list, although
you can (and I have) set up author filters as well for people who
frequently morph their address.

> I think that if I manipulate some of the filters just right, I might
> be able to filter out all posts that are crossposted to a specific
> group.
>
> Where the hell are these coming from, and how can I tell?
> I guess I could pull up the headers to find that information?
> I normally do not make those visible.

That's the way. The header should give you the entire newsgroup list.

> The thing is, I'm leery of filtering out crossposts as there is a
> small group of lists I belong to where crossposting is appropriate in
> the RELATED groups, and I don't want to lose those posts. Some are
> posted by some close 'net buddies...

The key is to look for groups you doubt will ever have any interesting
thread crossed to. You can usually tell.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

In article >,
"Default User" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > "Default User" > wrote:
> >
> > > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > >
> > > > am I going to have to create to filter out those a-holes that are
> > > > crossposting that drivel???
> > >
> > >
> > > You're better off with a newsreader than can filter crossposts. That
> > > way you usually don't have to killfile individuals, just the cross
> > > groups.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian
> >
> > At the moment, I'm killfiling by key words. :-)
> >
> > That's actually VERY effective.
> >
> > "kill if subject contains the word XXXXX"
>
> It works pretty well, especially in weeding out political messages.
>
> > It does not killfile authors unless I tell it to.
> > I set up a keyword filter for "from" if the from (author) contains
> > the word "Chung". Since he always posts with his name even tho' he
> > changes ID's frequently, I should never see a post from him again
> > using that as the filter criteria.
>
> In XanaNews, the killfile is distinct from the filter list, although
> you can (and I have) set up author filters as well for people who
> frequently morph their address.

I think I just said that. <giggles>

>
> > I think that if I manipulate some of the filters just right, I might
> > be able to filter out all posts that are crossposted to a specific
> > group.
> >
> > Where the hell are these coming from, and how can I tell?
> > I guess I could pull up the headers to find that information?
> > I normally do not make those visible.
>
> That's the way. The header should give you the entire newsgroup list.

I'll have a look then next time one shows up.
For now, most of this run of internet diarrhea has dried up.

>
> > The thing is, I'm leery of filtering out crossposts as there is a
> > small group of lists I belong to where crossposting is appropriate in
> > the RELATED groups, and I don't want to lose those posts. Some are
> > posted by some close 'net buddies...
>
> The key is to look for groups you doubt will ever have any interesting
> thread crossed to. You can usually tell.
>
>
>
> Brian

Thanks!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> In article >,
> "Default User" > wrote:

> > In XanaNews, the killfile is distinct from the filter list, although
> > you can (and I have) set up author filters as well for people who
> > frequently morph their address.
>
> I think I just said that. <giggles>

I didn't get the impression that yours had a separate killfile. For
instance, Thunderbird does not. To killfile someone with that reader
you add a filter with their email address. They simplify it with the
"create filter from message" pulldown.

XanaNews can do it either way. There's a one-click "bozo bin" button or
you can make a filter for the Sender field. Ones in the bozo bin don't
show up on the filter list, although can view the entire bozo bin file
separately.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

In article >,
"Default User" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > "Default User" > wrote:
>
> > > In XanaNews, the killfile is distinct from the filter list, although
> > > you can (and I have) set up author filters as well for people who
> > > frequently morph their address.
> >
> > I think I just said that. <giggles>
>
> I didn't get the impression that yours had a separate killfile. For
> instance, Thunderbird does not. To killfile someone with that reader
> you add a filter with their email address. They simplify it with the
> "create filter from message" pulldown.

Yes.
Create filter for:

Etc.

But it's all in the same filter pages.
I just have different options to use in 3 different settings.

>
> XanaNews can do it either way. There's a one-click "bozo bin" button or
> you can make a filter for the Sender field. Ones in the bozo bin don't
> show up on the filter list, although can view the entire bozo bin file
> separately.

I have one "show filters" that shows all settings for the given group.
Includes the one clicks as well as the more complex filter settings.

>
>
>
> Brian
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> In article >,
> "Default User" > wrote:

> > I didn't get the impression that yours had a separate killfile. For
> > instance, Thunderbird does not. To killfile someone with that reader
> > you add a filter with their email address. They simplify it with the
> > "create filter from message" pulldown.
>
> Yes.
> Create filter for:
>
> Etc.
>
> But it's all in the same filter pages.
> I just have different options to use in 3 different settings.


That's what I figured. As I said, with XanaNews the "bozo bin" and the
filter list are separate. The actual killfile is pretty simple, it's a
one-click deal that kills any messages from a particular email.
Effective most of the time, but not with those that morph their
addresses.

There is also the filter list, with options to filter by Subject, From,
Body, Date, Lines, Header, Crossposts, with options for Matches,
Doesn't Match, etc. That's for when you need more power.

I like the option to filter by the actual crossposted newsgroup name
rather than just number of crossposted groups. Most of the Chung groups
I don't care about.


Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

In article >,
"Default User" > wrote:

> I like the option to filter by the actual crossposted newsgroup name
> rather than just number of crossposted groups. Most of the Chung groups
> I don't care about.
>
>
> Brian

Now THAT I would love to do!
It would be handy for several groups!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> In article >,
> "Default User" > wrote:
>
> > I like the option to filter by the actual crossposted newsgroup name
> > rather than just number of crossposted groups. Most of the Chung
> > groups I don't care about.

> Now THAT I would love to do!
> It would be handy for several groups!


I'd recommed you try XanaNews, but it looks like you're working from
Mac OS, and it doesn't have a port there.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)