Most of the posters on this group probably know by now that Steve Kramer is
a spammer, always on the lookout to promote himself and his business. And
you probably know that being a conceited little man with an *enormous* ego,
he also loves to blow his own trumpet!

Anyway, here he is in action:

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http://www.digicamsoft.com/9A1FC1731...0A6594E11.html


>
> How many people make a living in this NG from photography? What do you
> specialise in?

Travel, nature, and travel related advertising photography (hotel and
resort brochures) for national and international magazines and
calendars.
http://www.photoenvisions.com/
I also write a monthly magazine column about photography,
http://www.gmorning.info/photo_vision.htm
and run classes to teach our tourists how to use the other three buttons
on their cameras with ond-day photo classes and photo safaris.
http://www.photoenvisions.com/Advert.htm
Of course this last part will only work well for you if you live in a
tourist rich location. Fortunately, northern Thailand is a
photographer's paradise, and I live at the last stop of the rail line
running north. Beyond this there be dragons!

Steve Kramer
"PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography
Chiang Mai, Thailand
http://www.photoenvisions.com

--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing
with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

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**I just loved that little ditty, tagged onto the end of his sales pitch:

"Fortunately, northern Thailand is a photographer's paradise, and I live at
the last stop of the rail line running north. Beyond this there be dragons!"

Beyond this there be dragons????? ROFL!!!!!! Cheesy or what??? Almost beats
his "I know where the elephants lay down..." and "Through the forests, I
wander..." skits!

And a follow up from the same group:

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Bill Hilton wrote:
>
> >Peter writes ...
> >
> >How many people make a living in this NG from photography?
>
> Not many, I'd wager.
>
> >I just wonder if it would be viable to just specialise in nature
> >or the like to make a living without living on tin food.
>
> "John Shaw's Business of Nature Photography" is a good book that will
> give you a feel for the 'business' side of it. Most of the really
> prosperous nature photographers I know personally are making much of
> their money either from guiding tours and teaching classes or
> workshops, or writing/selling books or occasionally from stock sales.
> A handful make most of their money from selling prints, typically if
> they own one or more galleries. One guy told me he made less than 5%
> of his income from selling images to magazines, for example, but finds
> that leading photo tours to places he would visit on his own anyway is
> wildly profitable.

I'll second that. Even selling a dozen photos (to mags and businesses)
per month on average, and having at least one magazine cover per month,
my money is still coming from teaching and photo safaris.

Steve Kramer
"PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography
Chiang Mai, Thailand
http://www.photoenvisions.com
--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing
with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

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**"...my money is still coming from teaching and photo safaris." Actually
Steve's money comes from his wife Nobuko, who supports both of them. Truth
is, if it wasn't for Nobuko and her pension and rental income from the
apartment that she owns in Osaka, Steve would really be in shit creek! Right
Steve? :-)



--
"In this most recent case, Taken Gthe**** also thinks that nothing is going
to happen. It probably wont for at least a year, till all the loopholes are
filled, then he goes inside too." - Steve 'Kombat' Kramer, Jun 8 2004.