sf replied to Andy:

>> As for the looters, imho, they should simply have their wrists broken on
>> sight as punishment to fit the crime!
>>
>> No mercy,
>>
>> Andy
>
> Maybe there are looters who are out to make a profit, but I think most
> of them are just trying to survive.


Earlier today, I received this on an e-mail list:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
My SO's bro just got orders and will be deployed to NO tonight.
What is significant and not neccessarily reported in the news is that,
essentially he is leading his unit there to shoot to kill. Most national
guards are trained to do crowd control, or rescue; but his is specifially
running the tactical unit (Bortac). He said he would prefer to arm
his units with rifles (shots than will scatter a wide area) than machine
guns right now...but we will see what he would sign out from the arsenal
for his men...they are gonan stay for a month as told.

Apparently the gangs had taken over Metrodome, and started moving across
town to the nice rich area in NO. Let just say that most of the really
rich people in the south live in that area, and there are a lot of
Picassos being left behind....I do not think that this is just about
shooting someone who try to steal a TV from Walmart.

Tonight we were making satellite maps for her bro while he was back with
his unit preparing to board the cargo plane. My SO went to school in NO
and gave her bro all the tips he needed...(which gangs, which building in
which district to hide, which projects, which buildings has hidden medical
equipment..etc.)

This is going to be very messy before it will be OK again. NO will never
be the same. The Jesuit owned lands will probably be OK and restored, as
will the French Quarter, but the rest would probably be left to rot...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bob

On 2005-09-02, Bob > wrote:

> Earlier today, I received this on an e-mail list:

.....which means it's more than likely a lotta bull.

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2005-09-02, Bob > wrote:
>
>
>>Earlier today, I received this on an e-mail list:
>
>
> ....which means it's more than likely a lotta bull.
>
> nb

Because you are there and know first hand?

Roberta (in VA)

On 2005-09-02, Roberta > wrote:

> Because you are there and know first hand?

Oh, you get reliable factual information from email lists? How nice
for you. Put your money in any Nigerian banks lately?

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
| On 2005-09-02, Bob > wrote:
|
| > Earlier today, I received this on an e-mail list:
|
| ....which means it's more than likely a lotta bull.
|
Dunno about all that Bob wrote, but it was reported on CNN this am that the
National Guard had orders to shoot to kill.

Debbie

Debbie wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> | On 2005-09-02, Bob > wrote:
> |
> | > Earlier today, I received this on an e-mail list:
> |
> | ....which means it's more than likely a lotta bull.
> |
> Dunno about all that Bob wrote, but it was reported on CNN this am that the
> National Guard had orders to shoot to kill.
>
> Debbie

Unless they are trained snipers, they can't help but shoot as best they
can - the best shot in the world, in a tense situation, cannot just
wound on purpose - any real officer will tell you that.

I heard this morning on CNN that yes, some Guard just arriving in N.O.,
had just come back from Iraq, and would not hesitate to shoot first and
ask later.

N.

Nancy1 wrote:
> Debbie wrote:
> > "notbob" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > | On 2005-09-02, Bob > wrote:
> > |
> > | > Earlier today, I received this on an e-mail list:
> > |
> > | ....which means it's more than likely a lotta bull.
> > |
> > Dunno about all that Bob wrote, but it was reported on CNN this am that the
> > National Guard had orders to shoot to kill.
> >
> > Debbie
>
> Unless they are trained snipers, they can't help but shoot as best they
> can - the best shot in the world, in a tense situation, cannot just
> wound on purpose - any real officer will tell you that.

Ain't you ever heard of the Lone Ranger... and even a dumb dago knows
to shoot kneecaps.

Sheldon

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> sf replied to Andy:
>
>>> As for the looters, imho, they should simply have their wrists broken
>>> on
>>> sight as punishment to fit the crime!
>>>
>>> No mercy,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Maybe there are looters who are out to make a profit, but I think most
>> of them are just trying to survive.
>
>
> Earlier today, I received this on an e-mail list:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> My SO's bro just got orders and will be deployed to NO tonight.
> What is significant and not neccessarily reported in the news is that,
> essentially he is leading his unit there to shoot to kill.

Is this really true? Who told you that?
Dee Dee

Dee asked:

>> My SO's bro just got orders and will be deployed to NO tonight.
>> What is significant and not neccessarily reported in the news is that,
>> essentially he is leading his unit there to shoot to kill.
>
> Is this really true? Who told you that?

The originator of that post was a guy named Vincent Ho, who lives in the San
Franciso area. If you want to ask him directly, his e-mail address is hbv
(at) tsoft.com. I see no reason to doubt it; Vincent's always been a rather
no-nonsense kind of guy.

Moreover, the National Guard (and most other military organizations) are
*trained* to shoot at the center of body mass. They don't spend the
extensive amount of time training in marksmanship that others (e.g.,
Marines) do, so they're not the sharpshooters that you might think. They
don't really have the ability to shoot to wound or disable.

Bob

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> sf replied to Andy:
>
>>> As for the looters, imho, they should simply have their wrists broken
>>> on
>>> sight as punishment to fit the crime!
>>>
>>> No mercy,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Maybe there are looters who are out to make a profit, but I think most
>> of them are just trying to survive.
>
>
> Earlier today, I received this on an e-mail list:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> My SO's bro just got orders and will be deployed to NO tonight.
> What is significant and not neccessarily reported in the news is that,
> essentially he is leading his unit there to shoot to kill. Most national
> guards are trained to do crowd control, or rescue; but his is specifially
> running the tactical unit (Bortac). He said he would prefer to arm
> his units with rifles (shots than will scatter a wide area) than machine
> guns right now...but we will see what he would sign out from the arsenal
> for his men...they are gonan stay for a month as told.
>
> Apparently the gangs had taken over Metrodome, and started moving across
> town to the nice rich area in NO. Let just say that most of the really
> rich people in the south live in that area, and there are a lot of
> Picassos being left behind....I do not think that this is just about
> shooting someone who try to steal a TV from Walmart.
>
> Tonight we were making satellite maps for her bro while he was back with
> his unit preparing to board the cargo plane. My SO went to school in NO
> and gave her bro all the tips he needed...(which gangs, which building in
> which district to hide, which projects, which buildings has hidden medical
> equipment..etc.)
>
> This is going to be very messy before it will be OK again. NO will never
> be the same. The Jesuit owned lands will probably be OK and restored, as
> will the French Quarter, but the rest would probably be left to rot...
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Bob
Oh, sorry, I thought it was a personal email.
Rumors in email. Hard to pin down, heh?
Dee Dee

Dee wrote:

> Oh, sorry, I thought it was a personal email.
> Rumors in email. Hard to pin down, heh?

Well, this one ought to be EASY to pin down. There is only one degree of
separation: I've already posted the e-mail address of the originator, and he
says that he was in direct contact with the guy who's deploying.

Bob