My son tells me he can't locate it in the Minneapolis area. Any ideas?
Thanks.

>snowfeet1 writes:
>
>My son tells me he can't locate it in the Minneapolis area. Any ideas?

Why would he want to?
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"PENMART01" wrote in message
...

> >snowfeet1 writes:
> >
> >My son tells me he can't locate it in the Minneapolis area. Any ideas?
>
> Why would he want to?

Because better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy.

-Mike

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:35:39 -0500, "Mike Pearce"
> wrote:

>"PENMART01" wrote in message
...
>
>> >snowfeet1 writes:
>> >
>> >My son tells me he can't locate it in the Minneapolis area. Any
ideas?
>>
>> Why would he want to?
>
>Because better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy.
>
>-Mike
>

I disagree. Ever try 100% Kona? We grow it but it is worth trying if
you think C.F.O.N. is where it's at.

If you want creamy, chocolaty, highly aromatic and just plain yummy
coffee, try 100% Kona.No pesticides. All natural. A customer said it
was "like dessert for breakfast" <g>.

aloha,
Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

"smithfarms pure kona" wrote in message
...
> "Mike Pearce" wrote:
>
> >
> >Because better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy.
> >
> >
>
> I disagree. Ever try 100% Kona? We grow it but it is worth trying if
> you think C.F.O.N. is where it's at.
>
> If you want creamy, chocolaty, highly aromatic and just plain yummy
> coffee, try 100% Kona.No pesticides. All natural. A customer said it
> was "like dessert for breakfast" <g>.


This is not a matter of agree or disagree. It's simply a fact. Clearly, you
know absolutely nothing about coffee.

http://www.chockfullonuts.com/A1954.asp

Mike Pearce wrote:
> "smithfarms pure kona" wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"Mike Pearce" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Because better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I disagree. Ever try 100% Kona? We grow it but it is worth trying if
>>you think C.F.O.N. is where it's at.
>>
>>If you want creamy, chocolaty, highly aromatic and just plain yummy
>>coffee, try 100% Kona.No pesticides. All natural. A customer said it
>>was "like dessert for breakfast" <g>.
>
>
>
> This is not a matter of agree or disagree. It's simply a fact. Clearly, you
> know absolutely nothing about coffee.
>
> http://www.chockfullonuts.com/A1954.asp
>
>
>


Actually, Thunder et al, probably have forgotten more about coffee than
you will ever know. ;-)

An advertising jingle is a long way from truth, especially this one.


jim

>"Mike Pearce"
>
>>"smithfreaks pure kona" wrote:
>> "Mike Pearce" wrote:
>> >
>> >Because better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy.
>>
>> I disagree. Ever try 100% Kona? We grow it
>
>This is not a matter of agree or disagree. It's simply a fact. Clearly, you
>know absolutely nothing about coffee.
>
>http://www.chockfullonuts.com/A1954.asp

The OPPORTUNISTIC SPAMMER obviuously knows nothing[period]

Most of the world's population knows that jingle... as do ALL of the world's
coffee drinkers... same way they'd know who's Juan Valdez, whose burro's IQ is
far higher than Smiths.


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````````````

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 12:36:33 -0500, "Mike Pearce"
> wrote:

>"smithfarms pure kona" wrote in message
.. .
>> "Mike Pearce" wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Because better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I disagree. Ever try 100% Kona? We grow it but it is worth trying
if
>> you think C.F.O.N. is where it's at.
>>
>> If you want creamy, chocolaty, highly aromatic and just plain yummy
>> coffee, try 100% Kona.No pesticides. All natural. A customer said
it
>> was "like dessert for breakfast" <g>.
>
>
>This is not a matter of agree or disagree. It's simply a fact.
Clearly, you
>know absolutely nothing about coffee.
>
>http://www.chockfullonuts.com/A1954.asp
>
>

You are right, I did not know the jingle. Thanks.

OTOH I have always wondered why it was called CFO Nuts. There are no
Nuts in coffee. Beans would be a better word. But poetic license
goes far

Thanks enseandaJim, too.

aloha,
Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

Mike Pearce wrote:

> "smithfarms pure kona" wrote in message
> ...
> > "Mike Pearce" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Because better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I disagree. Ever try 100% Kona? We grow it but it is worth trying if
> > you think C.F.O.N. is where it's at.
> >
> > If you want creamy, chocolaty, highly aromatic and just plain yummy
> > coffee, try 100% Kona.No pesticides. All natural. A customer said it
> > was "like dessert for breakfast" <g>.
>
>
> This is not a matter of agree or disagree. It's simply a fact. Clearly,
you
> know absolutely nothing about coffee.
>
> http://www.chockfullonuts.com/A1954.asp


Chock Full 'o Nuts is okay for what it is - canned mass market coffee.
Unlike the Folgers, etc. swill it is at least drinkable...but it's no match
for a good coffee e.g. Smith Farms or what I can get at my locally - owned
and operated coffee provender on the corner (Coffee & Tea Exchange in
Chicago...) or Peet's or whatever....

--
Best
Greg

PENMART01 wrote:
>>"Mike Pearce"
>>
>>
>>>"smithfreaks pure kona" wrote:
>>>"Mike Pearce" wrote:
>>>
>>>>Because better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy.
>>>
>>>I disagree. Ever try 100% Kona? We grow it
>>
>>This is not a matter of agree or disagree. It's simply a fact. Clearly, you
>>know absolutely nothing about coffee.
>>
>>http://www.chockfullonuts.com/A1954.asp
>
>
> The OPPORTUNISTIC SPAMMER obviuously knows nothing[period]
>
> Most of the world's population knows that jingle... as do ALL of the world's
> coffee drinkers... same way they'd know who's Juan Valdez, whose burro's IQ is
> far higher than Smiths.
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````

Pensizeddick penmart01 wrote absolutely nothing of merit. Predictable.

Not everyone knows that jingle from 1954 or thereabouts. Far too many
people on the net were not even alive when man took his first steps on
the moon, let alone something from from previous decade(s).

Cea, Thunder and crowd are well-respected members of alt.coffee. Their
contributions to discussions about coffee are welcomed and appreciated.



jim

Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
>My son tells me he can't locate it in the Minneapolis area.
>Any ideas?

Yes. Get down on your knees and thank God.

"JimLane" assayed:
>
> Not everyone knows that jingle from 1954 or thereabouts. Far too many
> people on the net were not even alive when man took his first steps on
> the moon, let alone something from from previous decade(s).

I beg to differ. I recall hearing the CFON jingle on TV in the 80s, after
Man had learned to fly into space and return in the same craft. That would
place many affected Netizens in their 20's, eh?

<and now I'm off to the Do You Remember thread>

In rec.food.cooking, Snowfeet1 > wrote:
> My son tells me he can't locate it in the Minneapolis area. Any ideas?

Buy good coffee instead?

--
....I'm an air-conditioned gypsy...

- The Who

In article >, JimLane > wrote:

> Actually, Thunder et al, probably have forgotten more about coffee than
> you will ever know. ;-)
>
> An advertising jingle is a long way from truth, especially this one.

But the poster was quoting, and gave a reference to the quote.
He _didn't_ claim it was true. However, we forgive you since you
displayed the Grand Hailing Signal of Extreme Pedanticism in
your message.

As for coffee in Minneapolis, I've seen CFON someplace or other
in the last few years, but I recommend a trip to Dunn Brothers.
It doesn't have the mystical cachet, but it is roughly a hundred
times better, in my opinion. The Fridley store has the best beans,
though most any one (except the airport) will have something a
lot better than Charbucks. Again, in my opinion. (The airport is
the only location that doesn't roast. Apparently the Metropolitan
Airports Commission is concerned that with hundreds of thousands
of gallons of jet fuel being pushed around by hundreds of big
blowtorches, the addition of a coffee roaster will create a
big ol' safety hazard.)

Mike Beede

In article >, smithfarms pure kona > wrote:

> OTOH I have always wondered why it was called CFO Nuts. There are no
> Nuts in coffee. Beans would be a better word. But poetic license
> goes far

I did find a reference to a CFON restaurant in New York, but nothing
about how long it's been there. Of course, that would only push the
mystery back to "why did they name the restaurant that." The Sara
Lee site talks about the jingle (which apparently everyone older than
me is quite familiar with ... ahem), but apparently assumes the name
is unremarkable.

Mike Beede

P.S., I was suprised to find a _Cook's Illustrated_ article where CFON french
roast beats Charbucks. But not *really* suprised....
<http://www.cooksillustrated.com/article.asp?did=5378&bdc=64536>

"Mike Beede" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, smithfarms pure
kona > wrote:
>
> > OTOH I have always wondered why it was called CFO Nuts. There are no
> > Nuts in coffee. Beans would be a better word. But poetic license
> > goes far
>
> I did find a reference to a CFON restaurant in New York, but nothing
> about how long it's been there. Of course, that would only push the
> mystery back to "why did they name the restaurant that." The Sara
> Lee site talks about the jingle (which apparently everyone older than
> me is quite familiar with ... ahem), but apparently assumes the name
> is unremarkable.
>

The shop was originally a nut shop in NY city. In the depression, as nuts
became a luxury that fewer people could afford, they switched to being
mainly a coffee shop.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"Mike Pearce" > wrote in message
news:fzHvc.3235$CW.1780@lakeread05...
> "PENMART01" wrote in message
> ...
>
> > >snowfeet1 writes:
> > >
> > >My son tells me he can't locate it in the Minneapolis area. Any ideas?
> >
> > Why would he want to?
>
> Because better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy.

I got a tin of that when I was in Vermont. Gutless weak stuff. I gave it to
my landlord and got some Lavazza. Medaglia D'Oro was acceptable (a bit limp
though).

ant

In article >,
Mike Beede > wrote:

> I did find a reference to a CFON restaurant in New York, but nothing
> about how long it's been there. Of course, that would only push the
> mystery back to "why did they name the restaurant that." The Sara
> Lee site talks about the jingle (which apparently everyone older than
> me is quite familiar with ... ahem), but apparently assumes the name
> is unremarkable.

According to Mark Pendergast's "Uncommon Grounds," it was named by
William Black, who in 1926 started out with a nut stand in a basement at
Broadway and Forty-third street in NYC, calling it Chock full o' Nuts.
Within six years, this became a chain of eighteen stores all over
Manhattan. He turned this chain into quick-order luncheonettes "offering
a nutted cheese sandwich on whole wheat raisin bread, along with coffee,
each for a nickel. Later he added soup and pie to the menu.
By the 1950s Black owned twenty-five restaurants in New York City. When
coffee prices went up and quality began to decline, Black, a stickler
for the freshest ingredients, was disturbed. At first, like other
restaurant owners, he held to a 5-cent cup of coffee by watering the
brews. He soon broke ranks, however, raising his price and announcing
that he refused to compromise on quality.
Then in October 1953 he astonished the coffee trade by coming out with
his own brand, Chock full o' Nuts.... Everyone thought it would flop,
particularly with such a stupid name. Maybe Chock full o' Beans-but
nuts?"

The text notes that the original jingle was sung by Black's second wife,
Jean Martin:
"Chock full o' Nuts is that heavenly coffee
Heavenly coffee, heavenly coffee
Chock full o' Nuts is that heavenly coffee-
Better coffee Rockefeller's money can't buy"

Nelson Rockefeller, who owned several Latin American coffee concerns,
didn't want his name to be used to promote the competition, so he sued.
Black changed the jingle to "Better coffee a millionaire's money can't
buy."

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>Mike Beede writes:
>
>Jimbo-Bob babbled:
>>
>> An advertising jingle is a long way from truth, especially this one.
>
>But the poster was quoting, and gave a reference to the quote.
>He _didn't_ claim it was true. However, we forgive you since you
>displayed the Grand Hailing Signal of Extreme Pedanticism in
>your message.

Simply put, Jimbo-Bob is a functionally illiterate *******... the six digited
freak is ignorant of all things like his 25¢ a pop donkey humping mammy! LOL

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .

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````````````

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 01:26:13 GMT, Scott >
wrote:

>In article >,
> Mike Beede > wrote:
>
>> I did find a reference to a CFON restaurant in New York, but
nothing
>> about how long it's been there. Of course, that would only push
the
>> mystery back to "why did they name the restaurant that." The Sara
>> Lee site talks about the jingle (which apparently everyone older
than
>> me is quite familiar with ... ahem), but apparently assumes the
name
>> is unremarkable.
>
>According to Mark Pendergast's "Uncommon Grounds," it was named by
>William Black, who in 1926 started out with a nut stand in a basement
at
>Broadway and Forty-third street in NYC, calling it Chock full o'
Nuts.
>Within six years, this became a chain of eighteen stores all over
>Manhattan. He turned this chain into quick-order luncheonettes
"offering
>a nutted cheese sandwich on whole wheat raisin bread, along with
coffee,
>each for a nickel. Later he added soup and pie to the menu.
>By the 1950s Black owned twenty-five restaurants in New York City.
When
>coffee prices went up and quality began to decline, Black, a stickler
>for the freshest ingredients, was disturbed. At first, like other
>restaurant owners, he held to a 5-cent cup of coffee by watering the
>brews. He soon broke ranks, however, raising his price and announcing
>that he refused to compromise on quality.
>Then in October 1953 he astonished the coffee trade by coming out
with
>his own brand, Chock full o' Nuts.... Everyone thought it would flop,
>particularly with such a stupid name. Maybe Chock full o' Beans-but
>nuts?"
>
>The text notes that the original jingle was sung by Black's second
wife,
>Jean Martin:
>"Chock full o' Nuts is that heavenly coffee
>Heavenly coffee, heavenly coffee
>Chock full o' Nuts is that heavenly coffee-
>Better coffee Rockefeller's money can't buy"
>
>Nelson Rockefeller, who owned several Latin American coffee concerns,
>didn't want his name to be used to promote the competition, so he
sued.
>Black changed the jingle to "Better coffee a millionaire's money
can't
>buy."

Fascinating, Scott, thank you. I have the "Uncommon Grounds" and
never thought of researching the CFON reasoning.

Mahalo to all,
Thunder



http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

In article >, smithfarms pure kona > wrote:

> Fascinating, Scott, thank you. I have the "Uncommon Grounds" and
> never thought of researching the CFON reasoning.

Ditto. I think I'll have to get that book.

Mike Beede

Mike Beede wrote:
> In article >, JimLane > wrote:
>
>
>>Actually, Thunder et al, probably have forgotten more about coffee than
>>you will ever know. ;-)
>>
>>An advertising jingle is a long way from truth, especially this one.
>
>
> But the poster was quoting, and gave a reference to the quote.
> He _didn't_ claim it was true. However, we forgive you since you
> displayed the Grand Hailing Signal of Extreme Pedanticism in
> your message.
>
> As for coffee in Minneapolis, I've seen CFON someplace or other
> in the last few years, but I recommend a trip to Dunn Brothers.
> It doesn't have the mystical cachet, but it is roughly a hundred
> times better, in my opinion. The Fridley store has the best beans,
> though most any one (except the airport) will have something a
> lot better than Charbucks. Again, in my opinion. (The airport is
> the only location that doesn't roast. Apparently the Metropolitan
> Airports Commission is concerned that with hundreds of thousands
> of gallons of jet fuel being pushed around by hundreds of big
> blowtorches, the addition of a coffee roaster will create a
> big ol' safety hazard.)
>
> Mike Beede

Thanks for putting words in my mouth, clown. Best try re-reading the
thread again, after taking reading and comprehension 101.

My position was Thunder did not know about the jingle despite the
reference given later by penmart. It was delivered first as a one liner
without, WITHOUT, attribution. And without that, it stood as the OP's
statement. Anyone, without knowledge of the jingle, should challenge the
ridiculous claim. As Thunder said, he didn't know about the jingle.

My reply to the rfc troll was in relation his slam of Thunder, who does
know more about coffee than that idiot does. Guaranteed.

BTW, as you seem interested in well roasted coffees, try roasting your
own and visit Thunder, me and dozens of others who do our own roasting.
Perhaps you have a thing or two to learn.


jim

PENMART01 wrote:

>>Mike Beede writes:
>>
>>Jimbo-Bob babbled:
>>
>>>An advertising jingle is a long way from truth, especially this one.
>>
>>But the poster was quoting, and gave a reference to the quote.
>>He _didn't_ claim it was true. However, we forgive you since you
>>displayed the Grand Hailing Signal of Extreme Pedanticism in
>>your message.
>
>
> Simply put, Jimbo-Bob is a functionally illiterate *******... the six digited
> freak is ignorant of all things like his 25¢ a pop donkey humping mammy! LOL
>
> Ahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````

Actually, both the idiot you are replying to and yourself are so far
offbase as to not even be in the ballpark. Go blow yourself. I've heard
you're double-jointed enough to do so. Or are you only into passing
brainfarts these days?


jim

"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:35:39 -0500, "Mike Pearce"
> > wrote:


> I disagree. Ever try 100% Kona? We grow it but it is worth trying if
> you think C.F.O.N. is where it's at.
>
> If you want creamy, chocolaty, highly aromatic and just plain yummy
> coffee, try 100% Kona.No pesticides. All natural. A customer said it
> was "like dessert for breakfast" <g>.

Oh I soooo agree. I've only had 100% Kona once when a friend from Hawaii
brought a couple of pounds of it back for us after a visit home. We've been
ruined of all other coffee since. Yum!

In article >, JimLane > wrote:

> Thanks for putting words in my mouth, clown. Best try re-reading the
> thread again, after taking reading and comprehension 101.

Sorry you weren't amused. I wasn't intending it as a slam--just
a joke. I refused to use smileys because I feel it insults the audience.
Consequently, I risk this kind of problem.

> BTW, as you seem interested in well roasted coffees, try roasting your
> own and visit Thunder, me and dozens of others who do our own roasting.
> Perhaps you have a thing or two to learn.

I've been roasting on and off for years. The first time, if I recall correctly, was
around 1984. Right now I'm off, because I can get pretty darned good beans
near my home.

Mike Beede

Snowfeet1 wrote:

> My son tells me he can't locate it in the Minneapolis area. Any ideas?
> Thanks.

If they have a Trader Joes, they may stock it. They do in Seattle.
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

Mike Beede wrote:

> In article >, smithfarms pure kona > wrote:
>
>
>>OTOH I have always wondered why it was called CFO Nuts. There are no
>>Nuts in coffee. Beans would be a better word. But poetic license
>>goes far
>
>
> I did find a reference to a CFON restaurant in New York, but nothing
> about how long it's been there. Of course, that would only push the
> mystery back to "why did they name the restaurant that." The Sara
> Lee site talks about the jingle (which apparently everyone older than
> me is quite familiar with ... ahem), but apparently assumes the name
> is unremarkable.
>
> Mike Beede
>
> P.S., I was suprised to find a _Cook's Illustrated_ article where CFON french
> roast beats Charbucks. But not *really* suprised....
> <http://www.cooksillustrated.com/article.asp?did=5378&bdc=64536>

As did Consumer Reports.

Restaurants first showed up in the 50's in Manhattan.
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

Mike Beede wrote:

> In article >, JimLane > wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks for putting words in my mouth, clown. Best try re-reading the
>>thread again, after taking reading and comprehension 101.
>
>
> Sorry you weren't amused. I wasn't intending it as a slam--just
> a joke. I refused to use smileys because I feel it insults the audience.
> Consequently, I risk this kind of problem.
>
>
>>BTW, as you seem interested in well roasted coffees, try roasting your
>>own and visit Thunder, me and dozens of others who do our own roasting.
>>Perhaps you have a thing or two to learn.
>
>
> I've been roasting on and off for years. The first time, if I recall correctly, was
> around 1984. Right now I'm off, because I can get pretty darned good beans
> near my home.
>
> Mike Beede


History it is.

Ye0, but roasting your own allows you to one-up your local wine snobs.


jim

alzelt wrote:
>

>> I did find a reference to a CFON restaurant in New York, but nothing
>> about how long it's been there. Of course, that would only push the
>> mystery back to "why did they name the restaurant that." The Sara
>> Lee site talks about the jingle (which apparently everyone older than
>> me is quite familiar with ... ahem), but apparently assumes the name
>> is unremarkable.
>>
>> Mike Beede

>
> Restaurants first showed up in the 50's in Manhattan.

There were CFON restaurants all over NYC when we came here in 1940 and
they had been there for a some time. Coffee was 5 cents a cup, as
were two doughnuts. I believe that the Nutted Cream Cheese
Sandwiches On Raisin Bread were ten cents. Tipping was not permitted
and if a waiter/waitress accepted a tip, he or she was immediately
dismissed.

My sister's first job was at a CFON in The Bronx. Each restaurant was
divided into horseshoe shaped serving stations and there was one wait
person responsible for each station.

My sister, who had never worked at any kind of job before, lasted one
day before she was fired, not because she accepted a tip, but because
she was so clumsy. (

Spoiled,spoiled,spoiled,any of you people ever taste the coffee(?)
out of a 'C' ration can????

"T" wrote ...
> Spoiled,spoiled,spoiled,any of you people ever taste the
coffee(?)
> out of a 'C' ration can????

Ah, yes. Another wonderful soy product.

Ah,a man who knows.Yes,love that Eight O' Clock coffee from freshly
ground beans.We buy 80% of our coffee in bean form and keep it in the
freezer,using just enough in our grinder for a pot full.The aroma of
coffee beans grinding is tantalizing.

In article
>,
alzelt > wrote:

> > My son tells me he can't locate it in the Minneapolis area. Any ideas?
> > Thanks.
>
> If they have a Trader Joes, they may stock it. They do in Seattle.

No Trader Joe's in the Twin Cities -- yet. Three Penzey's stores (go
figure!), but no TJ's ....

sd