On Sun 21 Aug 2005 10:28:58p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their
>> "gourmet cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more
>> backwards than I thought! :-)
>
> <shrug> If you've ever been here you'd know we're not NYC. Believe
> me when I say SF is just a small town.... and I don't remember EVER
> seeing this name on a cheese before. It's not in every "gourmet"
> cheese section of every (any) grocery store I've been in. We are not
> close to Europe and don't have many of the European items people in
> the East expect to see. We don't have ubiquitous French words/names
> on street signs either.
>
>
>

In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-) I can hardly
imagine Phoenix being more cosmopolitan than San Francisco. We're far more
likely to have Spanish names on *everything* here than anything else beyond
English. To be perfectly honest, If I moved to Rome I would *need* to
learn Italian, or French in Paris, or Greek in Greecem, etc. I find it
distressing that we are being "forced" into a bilingual culture here.

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On 22 Aug 2005 07:52:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-)

GAK, sorry. I keep placing you where Michael is and I put him
slightly North. LOL I need to get myself a map and put pins with
names on them in it. Nah, I'll let someone who is computer literate
do an online map where we can enter our names in the appropriate
location.

)

> I can hardly imagine Phoenix being more cosmopolitan than San Francisco.

I don't know how you rate on the Cosmopolitan scale, but you guys
eclipsed us on the population index years ago.

2000 - Phoenix is the sixth-largest city in the U.S., with a
population of 1,321,045.

The City and County of San Francisco (2004 estimated population
744,230) is the fourth-largest city in the state of California.... NOT
in the US.

Taking into consideration that a large part of your population is
transplanted retirees, you probably have more people in your area who
know about that cheese than we do here.

On Mon 22 Aug 2005 12:56:15a, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 22 Aug 2005 07:52:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-)
>
> GAK, sorry. I keep placing you where Michael is and I put him
> slightly North. LOL I need to get myself a map and put pins with
> names on them in it. Nah, I'll let someone who is computer literate
> do an online map where we can enter our names in the appropriate
> location.
>
>)

Michael lives in St. Louis, MO.

>> I can hardly imagine Phoenix being more cosmopolitan than San
>> Francisco.
>
> I don't know how you rate on the Cosmopolitan scale, but you guys
> eclipsed us on the population index years ago.
>
> 2000 - Phoenix is the sixth-largest city in the U.S., with a
> population of 1,321,045.

Greater Phoenix is projected to reach 3.4 million people sometime in 2005.

> The City and County of San Francisco (2004 estimated population
> 744,230) is the fourth-largest city in the state of California.... NOT
> in the US.
>
> Taking into consideration that a large part of your population is
> transplanted retirees, you probably have more people in your area who
> know about that cheese than we do here.

That's true. I'm always surprised that we don't have a wider range of
ethnic restaurants and food shops.

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____________________________________________

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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 00:56:15 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On 22 Aug 2005 07:52:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-)
>
>GAK, sorry. I keep placing you where Michael is and I put him
>slightly North. LOL I need to get myself a map and put pins with
>names on them in it. Nah, I'll let someone who is computer literate
>do an online map where we can enter our names in the appropriate
>location.

Google has this handy new feature, called a guest map. I just set one
up for RFC.

The URL is :

http://myguestmap.lorca.eti.br/guest...an02&locale=en

I found this from another food site. You can narrow it down so you
can even put your street there..it can pinpoint where you are exactly.

Spread the word...lets see how many RFC'ers can pinpoint where they
are!!!

I might start a new thread for this...

Christine

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:16:48 -0600, Christine Dabney wrote:

> Google has this handy new feature, called a guest map. I just set one
> up for RFC.
>
> The URL is :
>
> http://myguestmap.lorca.eti.br/guest...an02&locale=en
>
> I found this from another food site. You can narrow it down so you
> can even put your street there..it can pinpoint where you are exactly.
>
> Spread the word...lets see how many RFC'ers can pinpoint where they
> are!!!
>
> I might start a new thread for this...
>
Very COOL! How did you find out about it?

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:48:17 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:16:48 -0600, Christine Dabney wrote:
>
>> Google has this handy new feature, called a guest map. I just set one
>> up for RFC.
>>
>> The URL is :
>>
>> http://myguestmap.lorca.eti.br/guest...an02&locale=en
>>
>> I found this from another food site. You can narrow it down so you
>> can even put your street there..it can pinpoint where you are exactly.
>>
>> Spread the word...lets see how many RFC'ers can pinpoint where they
>> are!!!
>>
>> I might start a new thread for this...
>>
>Very COOL! How did you find out about it?

From a blogger on Mouthfuls.com.

We have a lot of folks added so far.

I just learned a new trick about it too. If you have a hard time
finding your place by the regular map, you can switch to the hybrid
one, or the satellite map, and find your exact spot.

Remember, you have to zoom into street level, BEFORE you put your
marker on it.

Christine

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 00:56:15 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On 22 Aug 2005 07:52:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-)
>
>GAK, sorry. I keep placing you where Michael is and I put him
>slightly North. LOL I need to get myself a map and put pins with
>names on them in it. Nah, I'll let someone who is computer literate
>do an online map where we can enter our names in the appropriate
>location.
>
>)
>
>> I can hardly imagine Phoenix being more cosmopolitan than San Francisco.
>
> I don't know how you rate on the Cosmopolitan scale, but you guys
>eclipsed us on the population index years ago.
>
>2000 - Phoenix is the sixth-largest city in the U.S., with a
>population of 1,321,045.

I *never* would have imagined that! What are 1-5? (NYC, Chicago, LA
.... ?)

>
>The City and County of San Francisco (2004 estimated population
>744,230) is the fourth-largest city in the state of California.... NOT
>in the US.

OK, LA is bigger. What are #s 2 & 3? Surely Sac doesn't have a
higher pop than SF!!!

>Taking into consideration that a large part of your population is
>transplanted retirees, you probably have more people in your area who
>know about that cheese than we do here.

Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
place....

TammyM, cheesy, very cheesy !!

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:46:26 GMT, TammyM wrote:

> Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
> place....

True, but if you lived in SF you'd know that when you live here -
bridge crossing isn't an everyday matter unless you do it for businees
or education purposes. Fortunately, one of my friends at work lives
in Berkeley so I can ask her to make a mercy run to the Cheese Board
for me if they carry it.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:18:24 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:46:26 GMT, TammyM wrote:
>
>> Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
>> place....
>
>True, but if you lived in SF you'd know that when you live here -
>bridge crossing isn't an everyday matter unless you do it for businees
>or education purposes. Fortunately, one of my friends at work lives
>in Berkeley so I can ask her to make a mercy run to the Cheese Board
>for me if they carry it.
>
>

I found it in Whole Foods here in Albuquerque. I am sure you can find
it there.

sf, on the map, you are out in the ocean. Zoom in....

christine

On Mon 22 Aug 2005 10:23:04p, Christine Dabney wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:18:24 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:46:26 GMT, TammyM wrote:
>>
>>> Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
>>> place....
>>
>>True, but if you lived in SF you'd know that when you live here -
>>bridge crossing isn't an everyday matter unless you do it for businees
>>or education purposes. Fortunately, one of my friends at work lives
>>in Berkeley so I can ask her to make a mercy run to the Cheese Board
>>for me if they carry it.
>>
>>
>
> I found it in Whole Foods here in Albuquerque. I am sure you can find
> it there.
>
> sf, on the map, you are out in the ocean. Zoom in....

Surfing?

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On 23 Aug 2005 07:30:53 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >
> > sf, on the map, you are out in the ocean. Zoom in....
>
> Surfing?

It's too COLD for that (unless you're a diehard surfer in a decent
wetsuit) and the undertow is a real killer. No joke.

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:46:26 GMT, TammyM wrote:
>
>
>> Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
>> place....
>
>
> True, but if you lived in SF you'd know that when you live here -
> bridge crossing isn't an everyday matter unless you do it for businees
> or education purposes. Fortunately, one of my friends at work lives
> in Berkeley so I can ask her to make a mercy run to the Cheese Board
> for me if they carry it.
>
>

There are some very useful cheese shops in SF.

One is on the foggier side - somewhere between 12th and 14th on Irving.
This is a small place, but they have a decent selection, including
Tilsit, and a variety of very buttery ones. Since they are small, the
selection may vary. Out of the 3 dozen or so types they have, perhaps
6-8 might vary over time. I think this place is very imaginatively named
"the cheese store" It is 2 blocks east on Irving from Andronico's.
They also stock Manouri, which reminds me of an Asian cheese I had
growing up.

There is another one around California and Fillmore. It had a much
bigger selection, and seems a bit more expensive. But I have never done
a type by type comparison. Some friends who work in some of the fine
dining establishments in the city directed me to this place.

There might also be a place on Castro St. Only heard of it from friends
who have now moved out of the area.


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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:49:58 -0700, gkm wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:46:26 GMT, TammyM wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
> >> place....
> >
> >
> > True, but if you lived in SF you'd know that when you live here -
> > bridge crossing isn't an everyday matter unless you do it for businees
> > or education purposes. Fortunately, one of my friends at work lives
> > in Berkeley so I can ask her to make a mercy run to the Cheese Board
> > for me if they carry it.
> >
> >
>
> There are some very useful cheese shops in SF.
>
> One is on the foggier side - somewhere between 12th and 14th on Irving.
> This is a small place, but they have a decent selection, including
> Tilsit, and a variety of very buttery ones. Since they are small, the
> selection may vary. Out of the 3 dozen or so types they have, perhaps
> 6-8 might vary over time. I think this place is very imaginatively named
> "the cheese store" It is 2 blocks east on Irving from Andronico's.
> They also stock Manouri, which reminds me of an Asian cheese I had
> growing up.
>
> There is another one around California and Fillmore. It had a much
> bigger selection, and seems a bit more expensive. But I have never done
> a type by type comparison. Some friends who work in some of the fine
> dining establishments in the city directed me to this place.
>
> There might also be a place on Castro St. Only heard of it from friends
> who have now moved out of the area.

There's a cheese shop (Creighton's) on twin peaks that's closer to me
- I should look there first. Also, there used to be a very well
regarded cheese shop at Divisidero and Oak. Do you know if it's still
there?