U-scan checkout
 

I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
"Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
was wasted on her.

djs0302 wrote:
> I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
> and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
> the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
> waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
> my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
> "Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
> was wasted on her.

Your comment was simply rudeness predicated on ignorance... her sarcasm
was wasted on you. The proper way to return change is to place it down
on the counter while counting, not to cram a fistful into someones
hand... same as bank tellers are instructed. You were supposed to
count out your change in front of her to verify it's correct and then
say thank you, sincerely, not snotty. That cashier was correct and
you, little snot-nosed dumb punk that you are were WRONG! The concept
is to invite people to count, not to invite bodily contact. I don't
want my change stuffed into my hand... it's a business transaction, not
a gift from grandma. It's more and more becoming a cashless society, I
notice more and more folks, especially young folks (under 40), haven't
a clue how to handle cash, in fact MOST can't count... I can't tell
yoose how many times some check out dude/dudette has handed me a
fistful of cash and then looked shocked as I began to count and would
suddenly blurt out with a nervous look on their pimply puss "Is that
okay?" Well, DUH!

Sheldon

"djs0302" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
> and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
> the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
> waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
> my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
> "Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
> was wasted on her.

I think that was rude. Just hand me my money, I don't have cooties. I
don't blame you for being annoyed, not only for the wait but the change
thing, too.

nancy

"djs0302" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
> and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
> the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
> waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
> my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
> "Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
> was wasted on her.
>

I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor though it
may be.
H

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:45:00 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

>
> "djs0302" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
> > and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
> > the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
> > waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
> > my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
> > "Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
> > was wasted on her.
>
> I think that was rude. Just hand me my money, I don't have cooties. I
> don't blame you for being annoyed, not only for the wait but the change
> thing, too.
>
Sometimes, culture has a lot to do with it. For some Asians, it's
rude to put money directly into your hands. They put it down on the
counter, you pick it up. Personally, I don't care how I get it as
long as I get the correct amount.

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:49 -0500, Hairy wrote:

> I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor though it
> may be.

It's a lot slower for the customer too.

On Mon 13 Jun 2005 08:47:31a, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:49 -0500, Hairy wrote:
>
>> I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor
>> though it may be.
>
> It's a lot slower for the customer too.
>

Not for me. I can scan more quickly than many of the register clerks and the
lines are invariably shorter. I was delighted to depersonalize yet another
bottleneck. Electronic banking of all sorts was the first breakthru for me.
Even the very first ATM machines back in the early 1970s were a godsend.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Mon 13 Jun 2005 08:47:31a, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:49 -0500, Hairy wrote:
>>>
>>>> I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor
>>>> though it may be.
>>>
>>> It's a lot slower for the customer too.
>>>
>>
>> Not for me. I can scan more quickly than many of the register
>> clerks and the lines are invariably shorter. I was delighted to
>> depersonalize yet another bottleneck. Electronic banking of all
>> sorts was the first breakthru for me. Even the very first ATM
>> machines back in the early 1970s were a godsend.
>>

I like them as well. I can package my groceries they way they should be.
No more bruised or squashed food. One day I returned almost $30 worth of
fruit, veggies, herbs, breads etc that this gal kept putting heavier items
on. If I hadn't already told her and stood there pulling stuff out and
rebagging I wouldn't have been as ticked. The stuff I brought back was
stuff that I didn't see while I was repacking. She set a can of tomato
juice on a bunch of grapes!

While checking out yesterday a young couple with a couple of young'uns chose
to use one of these. The dad apparently hadn't seen one before and was
rather excited. He provided my entertainment while I checked out my couple
of items. The wife got rather annoyed cause he was over anxious and tried
to scan something when she was.. had to wait for the gal to clear the
machine for them. Dad got the "lecture" from mom lol. While I was walking
away I overheard him say "Now I can? Is it my turn now?" lol

Debbie

"Hairy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "djs0302" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
>> and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
>> the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
>> waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
>> my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
>> "Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
>> was wasted on her.
>>
>
> I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor though it
> may be.
> H

Labor saving - Job Killing Plans

1. ATM Kills Tellers No discount to the user
2. U-Scan checkouts No discount to the user
3. Self service Gas Discount to the user
4. Salad Bar No discount to the user

What else?

Dimitri

I like them. I can better watch that the sale items are properly
discounted. The main anoyance is that some of them don't work well with
light items. If you scan something very light, and put it in the bag,
it doesn't register and it takes employee intervention to get things
working again. I have also noticed this seems to occur more and more
often as the machinery gets older. Also, there is no reason not to have
a comprehensive code chart for produce at the scanner. The tiny lists
they have are pathetic.

Dean G.

sf wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:45:00 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>
>>
>> "djs0302" > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>> >I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
>> > and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
>> > the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
>> > waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
>> > my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
>> > "Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
>> > was wasted on her.
>>
>> I think that was rude. Just hand me my money, I don't have cooties. I
>> don't blame you for being annoyed, not only for the wait but the change
>> thing, too.
>>
>
> Sometimes, culture has a lot to do with it. For some Asians, it's
> rude to put money directly into your hands. They put it down on the
> counter, you pick it up. Personally, I don't care how I get it as
> long as I get the correct amount.

That's one of the things I noticed in Italy. They never hand the change
to you; they have a little dish on the counter where they put it for you
to pick up.

--Charlene

--
Signs that you're a Reenactor: No one will attend a historical film
with you. -- http://www.gwerin.org.uk/silly/signs_that_you.htm


email perronnelle at earthlink . net

>
> Labor saving - Job Killing Plans
>
> 1. ATM Kills Tellers No discount to the user

Hell, they *ADDED* a service charge!

I won't assemble my own burgers, either.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> >
>> Labor saving - Job Killing Plans
>>
>> 1. ATM Kills Tellers No discount to the user
>
> Hell, they *ADDED* a service charge!
>
> I won't assemble my own burgers, either.
>
> nb

Interestingly when a person makes a deposit or a withdrawal at an ATM they are
doing the data-entry for the bank thereby eliminating the DP entry people
(jobs).


Dimitri

notbob wrote:
> >
> > Labor saving - Job Killing Plans
> >
> > 1. ATM Kills Tellers No discount to the user
>
> Hell, they *ADDED* a service charge!
>
> I won't assemble my own burgers, either.

Well, that's how Booger King started out, customers assembled their own
Big Woppers, and loved it... and BK quickly grew to epic proportions...
and then once they reached booger niverna they stopped the whole Have
It Your Way thingie (with fresh off the grill boogers), and jacked up
the price (and for old heat lamp boogers). So what it truly amounts to
is we know what yoose is, it's at what price. At the old low price you
darn well will play with your own meat in public... I know I would... I
still remember stacking up enough fresh salad fixings on my wopper to
qualify it as a very decent three person chefs salad.

"djs0302" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
> and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
> the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
> waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
> my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
> "Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
> was wasted on her.
>

Wow, what a horrid experience! How did you ever survive? I hope you got her
fired and then went home and had a stiff drink - lord knows you deserved it.


--
Peter Aitken

sf wrote:
>
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:49 -0500, Hairy wrote:
>
> > I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor though it
> > may be.
>
> It's a lot slower for the customer too.

Not for us. At many of the local supermarkets the clerk doesn't bag the
groceries until they've all been rung up. Add to that the chatting with
the previous customer or trying to chat with us instead of scanning the
next item or staring into space while we've been trying to give them
payment and it gets very slow indeed.

The self-scan checkouts at the markets we use most haven't resulted in
any jobs lost. There are never enough clerks at the tills anyway and
those queues are normally very long even in supposed offpeak times.

Arri London wrote:
>
> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:49 -0500, Hairy wrote:
> >
> > > I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor though it
> > > may be.
> >
> > It's a lot slower for the customer too.
>
> Not for us. At many of the local supermarkets the clerk doesn't bag the
> groceries until they've all been rung up. Add to that the chatting with
> the previous customer or trying to chat with us instead of scanning the
> next item or staring into space while we've been trying to give them
> payment and it gets very slow indeed.
>
> The self-scan checkouts at the markets we use most haven't resulted in
> any jobs lost. There are never enough clerks at the tills anyway and
> those queues are normally very long even in supposed offpeak times.

We have two supermarkets in our area. One bags as they are scanned.
There is a bag rack that the checker puts the product in as she takes it
off the scanner. The customer then puts the bags in their cart. If you
need a carry out, they'll call one for you, but most just carry their
own out. The other is a no frills, where you put a quarter to get a
cart, and have to buy bags, and bag things yourself. They sometimes
have boxes for you to use, but I buy things at the higher priced store
that match the no frills price, and things that no frills doesn't
carry. I then save the bags and use them for my purchases at no
frills. No frills have a significant price savings on most of my
needs. I spend an average of $100.00 Cdn per week for two of us. That
covers all groceries, toiletries, cleaning and paper products. They
also have a pharmacy that has a lower filling fee for prescriptions.
........Sharon

On 2005-06-13, Sheldon > wrote:

> still remember stacking up enough fresh salad fixings on my wopper to
> qualify it as a very decent three person chefs salad.

Yeah, back when a Whopper cost $.52 (Nashville, '69)!

Hey, for 52¢ I'll damn sure assemble (yes, big ol' tomato slices,
onion slices, crisp iceberg lettuce) my own burger. Unfortunately,
the trend in the late eighties was to charge *MORE* for the privilege
of providing the labor. Places like Squeezer's, Trio's, A&W, etc,
were charging $4-4.50 for an *alleged* DIY burger while you could get
an excellent finished burger handed to you for less at other
establishments. Fortunately, these more-work-for-you,
more-money-for-us, joints were short lived and died a quick and
merciless death.

nb

>
>djs0302 wrote:
>> I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
>> and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
>> the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
>> waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
>> my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
>> "Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
>> was wasted on her.
>

Tempest in a teapot !
<rj>

On 13 Jun 2005 18:08:06 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Not for me. I can scan more quickly than many of the register clerks and the
>lines are invariably shorter. I was delighted to depersonalize yet another
>bottleneck. Electronic banking of all sorts was the first breakthru for me.
>Even the very first ATM machines back in the early 1970s were a godsend.

Yahbut, it is very rare hereabouts to use a scanner that doesn't
misread something or other. Or maybe it's just the local Albertson's
scanners that are dyslexic. The last time I used one, I had scanned
all my items, then "the voice" said "remove the unscanned item from
the bagging area and scan." I *had* freakin' scanned it and could see
it on the screen, so I just held it in my hand while I finished the
transaction. Or God forbid you're buying a bottle of wine and the
scanner clerk isn't there!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>
> Not for me. I can scan more quickly than many of the register clerks and
> the
> lines are invariably shorter. I was delighted to depersonalize yet
> another
> bottleneck. Electronic banking of all sorts was the first breakthru for
> me.
> Even the very first ATM machines back in the early 1970s were a godsend.
>

I agree on the ATM, I'd be lost without them.

Tried the self check twice. Two different stores. More trouble that it was
worth when they didn't work properly so I'm never going back to them.
(unless they give me a 5% discount)

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2005-06-13, Sheldon > wrote:
>
>> still remember stacking up enough fresh salad fixings on my wopper to
>> qualify it as a very decent three person chefs salad.
>
> Yeah, back when a Whopper cost $.52 (Nashville, '69)!

<snip>

And what was Minimum wage in '69?

The minimum wage went to $1.00 an hour effective February 1967 for newly covered
nonfarm workers, $1.15 in February 1968, $1.30 in February 1969, $1.45 in
February 1970, and $1.60 in February 1971. Increases for newly subject farm
workers stopped at $1.30. The 1966 amendments extended the fulltime student
certification program to covered agricultural employers and to institutions of
higher learning.

So about 24 minuets labor for a hamburger-


Dimitri

Rick Rider wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:04:44 GMT, "Dimitri" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Hairy" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> "djs0302" > wrote in message
> >> ups.com...
> >>> I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
> >>> and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
> >>> the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
> >>> waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
> >>> my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
> >>> "Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
> >>> was wasted on her.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor though it
> >> may be.
> >> H
> >
> >Labor saving - Job Killing Plans
> >
> >1. ATM Kills Tellers No discount to the user
> >2. U-Scan checkouts No discount to the user
> >3. Self service Gas Discount to the user
> >4. Salad Bar No discount to the user
> >
> >What else?
> >
> >Dimitri
> >
> Dimitri, you hit my main objection on the head. If "I" do the work, "I" should get some
> sort of discount. After all, the store isn't paying me wages, isn't paying taxes on my
> wages, health insurance benefits, etc. I had an employee ask me to use the self check
> U-scan once. My reply, "What kind of discount do I get for working for the store?"
> "Er, none."
> "I'll wait then."
>
> Until I get a discount, I'm more than happy to interact with a real human being. I'll
> continue to try to make them smile, and I'll happily inform them as to how I like my bags
> packed. When I get offered a reasonable discount, say 10% off, I'll begin doing the work
> for the store. Until I get a discount, the only one it is helping is the store.

I purposely choose a check-out line having good ogling material... when
those machines are built with Double D cleavage I may indulge.

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:

>
> I purposely choose a check-out line having good ogling material... when
> those machines are built with Double D cleavage I may indulge.
>
> Sheldon

To coin a phrase:

*plonk*

Cathy

cathyxyz wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> >
> > I purposely choose a check-out line having good ogling material... when
> > those machines are built with Double D cleavage I may indulge.
> >
> > Sheldon
>
> To coin a phrase:
>
> *plonk*
>
> Cathy

I suppose we can safely assume you're flat as a board, and possess no
sense of humor whatsoever... ya know, tiny perkies are very
attractive... now if only you can get someone to extract that thorny
bramble cane from your butt.

Merriam Webster

inferiority complex

noun
Date: 1922
1 : an acute sense of personal inferiority often resulting either in
timidity, ie. Cathy Complex, or through overcompensation in exaggerated
aggressiveness, ie. Pastorio Syndrome.

Sheldon

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:49 -0500, Hairy wrote:
>
> > I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor though
> > it
> > may be.
>
> It's a lot slower for the customer too.

And I should get at least a 5% discount for doing someone else's job.

Regards,
Ranee

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Ranee Mueller wrote:
> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:49 -0500, Hairy wrote:
> >
> > > I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor though
> > > it
> > > may be.
> >
> > It's a lot slower for the customer too.
>
> And I should get at least a 5% discount for doing someone else's job.

But you don't mind paying the check-out clerk's salary and benefits...
you think that business cost is not included in the price of your
groceries. duh

Sheldon

"Ranee Mueller" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:49 -0500, Hairy wrote:
>>
>> > I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor
>> > though
>> > it
>> > may be.
>>
>> It's a lot slower for the customer too.
>
> And I should get at least a 5% discount for doing someone else's job.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee
>

You cannot possibly think that a cashier earns anything like 5% of the
groceries going thru, can you?


--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> On 13 Jun 2005 18:08:06 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Not for me. I can scan more quickly than many of the register clerks and the
>>lines are invariably shorter. I was delighted to depersonalize yet another
>>bottleneck. Electronic banking of all sorts was the first breakthru for me.
>>Even the very first ATM machines back in the early 1970s were a godsend.
>
>
> Yahbut, it is very rare hereabouts to use a scanner that doesn't
> misread something or other. Or maybe it's just the local Albertson's
> scanners that are dyslexic. The last time I used one, I had scanned
> all my items, then "the voice" said "remove the unscanned item from
> the bagging area and scan." I *had* freakin' scanned it and could see
> it on the screen, so I just held it in my hand while I finished the
> transaction. Or God forbid you're buying a bottle of wine and the
> scanner clerk isn't there!
>

You should see what happens if you try to buy a box of ammunition...

Best regards,
Bob

Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Ranee Mueller" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > sf > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:49 -0500, Hairy wrote:
> >>
> >> > I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor
> >> > though
> >> > it
> >> > may be.
> >>
> >> It's a lot slower for the customer too.
> >
> > And I should get at least a 5% discount for doing someone else's job.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ranee
> >
>
> You cannot possibly think that a cashier earns anything like 5% of the
> groceries going thru, can you?

Not 5% of gross sales but certainly more than 5% of net profits...
check-out clerks represent a pretty hefty portion of a stupidmarket's
operational expense... and that's why management is doing all it can to
amelierate that cost through automation... same reason banks went to
ATMs and on-line banking rather than employ more tellers. Anyone can
still go back to the old fashioned full service grocery, still plenty
around, but they'd not like the price they'd have to pay to get waited
on hand and foot. And stupidmarkets do pass savings down to their
customers. To point, I do my main grocery shopping monthly at the big
impersonal stupidmarkets 25 miles away, but all month I do my fill-in
shopping at the local market in town. There all locals get greeted by
name, merchandise is retrieved if so desired, they'll even send a clerk
with the elderly/handicapped to wheel their cart up and down every
aisle, they really treat customers well. But they also charge a bit
more, for some items a lot more, like fresh produce costs about 30%
more but is definitely far better quality than from the big stores. In
fact I buy all my fresh fruit at the higher prices because it's always
excellent quality... what's the point of buying a big bag of say citrus
for cheaper only to find after schlepping it home it is dry and
tasteless pulp. Last big sack of grapefruit from the big stupidmarket
was inedible so ended up in the trash, couldn't even put it in the
composter because the acid from citrus screws up the decomposition
process. So now I buy things like citrus and most produce in town and
it is always great quality so I don't care that it costs a bit more...
and I do appreciate the old fashioned personal attention, like I
receive from the store butcher when he directs my attention to the
lovely chuck roasts he just put out, and how we both enjoy chatting
about how to cook a roast, the weather, or whatever... could be five
minutes or a half hour, pure pleasure.

Sheldon

In article >,
"Peter Aitken" > wrote:

> You cannot possibly think that a cashier earns anything like 5% of the
> groceries going thru, can you?

No, but the cashier costs the company quite a bit, and if they get
rid of service, that also is something we pay for in the prices. Not to
mention that 5% of the price of the groceries is not even close to 5% of
their profit on them.

Regards,
Ranee

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"Ranee Mueller" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote:
>
>> You cannot possibly think that a cashier earns anything like 5% of the
>> groceries going thru, can you?
>
> No, but the cashier costs the company quite a bit, and if they get
> rid of service, that also is something we pay for in the prices. Not to
> mention that 5% of the price of the groceries is not even close to 5% of
> their profit on them.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee
>

In theory the lower costs realized by installing u-scans will be reflected
in overall lower prices. I do not consider using them a chore that I should
be reimbursed for but rather a convenience that saves me time and hassles. I
am not sure I understand your last sentence but if you are thinking that
groceries make 5% profit on gross sales you are way off base. It's much
lower than that.


--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

In article >,
"Peter Aitken" > wrote:

> In theory the lower costs realized by installing u-scans will be reflected
> in overall lower prices.

In theory. In practice the prices do not change one whit. They get
savings from not having to have as many people working, and they keep
the difference. Again, I will not use them, I've used one once, and
have the hassle, the messed up machines, and not receive a discount.

> I do not consider using them a chore that I should
> be reimbursed for but rather a convenience that saves me time and hassles. I
> am not sure I understand your last sentence but if you are thinking that
> groceries make 5% profit on gross sales you are way off base. It's much
> lower than that.

Then how do they make money? Are you telling me that if zucchini
costs $0.99 a pound here, it costs them $0.97 a pound? Or are you
saying that after they have paid their employees and their bills it's
closer to that? If it is the second, my point still stands. With fewer
employees, and specifically at a no employee point, I should get a
discount for doing their work. Just like places that don't have baggers
are usually less expensive than places that do.

Regards,
Ranee

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:51:53 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>You should see what happens if you try to buy a box of ammunition...
>
<snort!>

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Tue 14 Jun 2005 06:58:54p, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:51:53 -0500, zxcvbob >
> wrote:
>
>>You should see what happens if you try to buy a box of ammunition...
>>
> <snort!>

Here in AZ, southeast of Phoenix, it's legal and quite common to carry
exposed handguns. I'm sure that would add its own element of excitement to
the purchase!

When we first moved here 5-1/2 years ago, we noticed while dining in a
restaurant that several people had placed handguns on their tables. Needless
to say, we were pretty wide-eyed during dinner. We learned later that "guns
on the table" is a policy in many establishments.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:51:53 -0500, zxcvbob >
> wrote:
>
>
>>You should see what happens if you try to buy a box of ammunition...
>>
>
> <snort!>
>


Seriously, the machine goes nuts. I expected the checker girl to have
to come over and verify that I'm at least 21, but the machine couldn't
finish the transaction at all, not even when the checker girl was a
supervisor. We transferred everything (electronically; it didn't have
to be scanned again) to another register and finished up there.

Best regards,
Bob

Ranee Mueller wrote:
> In article >,
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote:
>
> > In theory the lower costs realized by installing u-scans will be reflec=
ted
> > in overall lower prices.
>
> In theory. In practice the prices do not change one whit. They get
> savings from not having to have as many people working, and they keep
> the difference. Again, I will not use them, I've used one once, and
> have the hassle, the messed up machines, and not receive a discount.
>
> > I do not consider using them a chore that I should
> > be reimbursed for but rather a convenience that saves me time and hassl=
es. I
> > am not sure I understand your last sentence but if you are thinking that
> > groceries make 5% profit on gross sales you are way off base. It's much
> > lower than that.
>
> Then how do they make money? Are you telling me that if zucchini
> costs $0.99 a pound here, it costs them $0.97 a pound? Or are you
> saying that after they have paid their employees and their bills it's
> closer to that? If it is the second, my point still stands. With fewer
> employees, and specifically at a no employee point, I should get a
> discount for doing their work.

You do receive a discount, a sizable discount if you shop intelligently
by purchasing as many of the myriad sale items as possible.
Stupidmarkets discount by *what* one buys, not by how many dollars one
spends... what makes you think you deserve a discount by dollar amount
spent... not for your $200 worth of beer and chips. And I'm not being
cute, my example is perfect... stupidmarket's inventory is so varied
that they can't justify discounting by how many dollars spent. And no
one is forcing anyone to shop at any store, not happy with a store's
discount policy, or anything, shop elsewhere.

Competition is mostly what holds prices down. U-scanits are not
necessarily to keep costs down... decent checkout employees have become
exceedingly more difficult to locate. The machines may even cost more
dollars than check-out employees but the machines are there everyday
and they don't bitch and moan.

Get used to it, won't be long U-Checkits will be as ubiquitous as
ATMs... soon the check-out clerk will not exist at all

I'm an ATM virgin, I've yet to use one. And I truly enjoy the few
minutes I spend chit-chatting with the check-out clerk, but what am I
to do if the clerks and cash become obsolete... I'll have to adapt to
the times... hey, I can still remember like it was yesterday when first
class mail needed a 3=A2 stamp and all banks had passbook savings
accounts. The local small town bank I now use still offers passbook
savings so that's what I chose... I kinda like how it's very private,
never shows up on my monthly statement along with checking and money
market, if I need to know my balance I just open my little bank book.

Sheldon

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
oups.com...

> 1 : an acute sense of personal inferiority often resulting either in
> timidity, ie. Cathy Complex,




> or through overcompensation in exaggerated
> aggressiveness, ie. Pastorio Syndrome.
>
> Sheldon

<CLANG!!!!>

There go those magnets again...




Shaun aRe





Shaun aRe

Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Ranee Mueller" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Peter Aitken" > wrote:
> >
> >> You cannot possibly think that a cashier earns anything like 5% of the
> >> groceries going thru, can you?
> >
> > No, but the cashier costs the company quite a bit, and if they get
> > rid of service, that also is something we pay for in the prices. Not to
> > mention that 5% of the price of the groceries is not even close to 5% of
> > their profit on them.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ranee
> >
>
> In theory the lower costs realized by installing u-scans will be reflected
> in overall lower prices. I do not consider using them a chore that I should
> be reimbursed for but rather a convenience that saves me time and hassles. I
> am not sure I understand your last sentence but if you are thinking that
> groceries make 5% profit on gross sales you are way off base. It's much
> lower than that.


I used to work for a major grocery store chain when I was in college
and we were told during orientation that the store keeps 1 penny out of
every dollar it takes in. The rest goes to things like employees'
salaries, rent, utilities, insurance, operating costs, etc. We were
told that the customer paid our salary. My answer to that was well, I
pay their salary. I may not pay it directly but in a way no matter
what job you have we all pay each others salaries.

On 15 Jun 2005 04:16:48 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Here in AZ, southeast of Phoenix, it's legal and quite common to carry
>exposed handguns. I'm sure that would add its own element of excitement to
>the purchase!

Wayne, where SE of Phoenix are you? I'm from Douglas.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"