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~patches~
 
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I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with
rfc and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill
and used a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I
would ask before just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do
this?
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~patches~ wrote:

> I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with
> rfc and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill
> and used a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I
> would ask before just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do
> this?


I look in on both groups so I'd see it in any case, but I can't imagine
why anyone would concern themselves with how many groups you posted to.
Let us look!

Bubba

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~patches~ wrote:
> I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with
> rfc and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill
> and used a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I
> would ask before just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do
> this?


The only time anyone here cares about cross-posting is if you're
cross-posting to every group on Usenet that doesn't have anything to do with
topics talked about here - e.g. political groups, religious groups, skiing
in Vermont groups... you get the drift And thank you for asking! That
was very nice of you!

Jill


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Go for it!

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In article >, ~patches~
> wrote:

> I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with
> rfc and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill
> and used a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I
> would ask before just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do
> this?


i don't know protocol but I'd rather see two separate posts (one in each
group) rather than one posted marked for two groups. That way the
follow-ups stay with the group in which they were posted.
--
-Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 6/6/05 Sam I Am!
June 25, 1945: Me and Carly Simon. I wonder if she makes jam.
(It's not too early to shop -- good chocolate and cheap gin.
Or is it cheap chocolate and good gin? I never
remember. No jam--coal to Newcastle and all that. "-)


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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> patches wrote:
>
> > I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with
> > rfc and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill
> > and used a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I
> > would ask before just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do
> > this?

>
> I'd rather see two separate posts (one in each
> group) rather than one posted marked for two groups. That way the
> follow-ups stay with the group in which they were posted.
>
> -Barb


'Zactly... crossposting is *never* acceptible.

Sheldon

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"~patches~" > wrote in message
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>I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with rfc
>and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill and used
>a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I would ask before
>just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do this?


Post to one group. Copy and paste the message to post it to the other
group. Takes less time than it took you to post this message.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/


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In article >, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
>"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
>>I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with rfc
>>and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill and used
>>a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I would ask before
>>just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do this?

>
>Post to one group. Copy and paste the message to post it to the other
>group. Takes less time than it took you to post this message.


Absolute crap! Proper crossposting is *far* preferable to inanely
posting separately to individual groups. With the former, people
subscribed to the various groups concerned only have to deal with it
once; with the latter it turns up when you open each of such groups,
which is a proverbial PITFA!


Cheers, Phred.

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"Phred" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Edwin
> Pawlowski" > wrote:
>>
>>"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
>>>I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with rfc
>>>and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill and
>>>used
>>>a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I would ask
>>>before
>>>just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do this?

>>
>>Post to one group. Copy and paste the message to post it to the other
>>group. Takes less time than it took you to post this message.

>
> Absolute crap! Proper crossposting is *far* preferable to inanely
> posting separately to individual groups. With the former, people
> subscribed to the various groups concerned only have to deal with it
> once; with the latter it turns up when you open each of such groups,
> which is a proverbial PITFA!
>
>
> Cheers, Phred.
>


Not so. You will see a crossposted message in each and every group it was
crossposted to, just as if it had been posted separately to each group.
Perhaps some newsreaders have a feature to filter out crossposted messages
and that's what you are talking about, but most people will see them all.

Crossposting is convenient for the poster because they will see all replies
in one group no matter where they came from (assuming the responder
crossposted also which usually happens automatically when you hit "Reply to
Group." Individual posting is better for the groups because replies are not
crossposted to all the groups.


--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm


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Phred wrote:
> In article >, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
>>"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with rfc
>>>and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill and used
>>>a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I would ask before
>>>just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do this?

>>
>>Post to one group. Copy and paste the message to post it to the other
>>group. Takes less time than it took you to post this message.

>
>
> Absolute crap! Proper crossposting is *far* preferable to inanely
> posting separately to individual groups. With the former, people
> subscribed to the various groups concerned only have to deal with it
> once; with the latter it turns up when you open each of such groups,
> which is a proverbial PITFA!
>
>
> Cheers, Phred.
>

I tend to agree with Phred about *proper* crossposting. Although I don't
do it as a rule... the NGs that I read are not really related. The only
thing I try to watch for is replying to a thread that's been crossposted
already. Made the mistake of not deleting the other NGs out of the "To"
field, once or twice, and my reply must have gone to all of them... Ooops.
Cathy

--
I don't suffer from insanity - I enjoy every minute of it


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~patches~ wrote:
> I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with
> rfc and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill
> and used a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I
> would ask before just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do
> this?


Netiquette says cross-post is ok if related to each group, but point
follow-ups to only one group.

-L.

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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, ~patches~
> > wrote:
>
> > I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with
> > rfc and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill
> > and used a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I
> > would ask before just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do
> > this?

>
> i don't know protocol but I'd rather see two separate posts (one in each
> group) rather than one posted marked for two groups. That way the
> follow-ups stay with the group in which they were posted.


That's the wrong way to do it. "Multi-posting" is usually frowned upon
as a violation of netiquette. A properly configured newsreader will
only show the messages once when they are cross-posted.

If the message is applicable to both groups, then cross-posting is
appropriate, but should be used with EXTREME discretion.



Brian

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Peter Aitken wrote:

> Not so. You will see a crossposted message in each and every group it was
> crossposted to, just as if it had been posted separately to each group.
> Perhaps some newsreaders have a feature to filter out crossposted messages
> and that's what you are talking about, but most people will see them all.



Not if you have a decent newsreader. Even OE gets that right, I
believe. Cross-posted message should be marked as read in ALL
referenced groups.



Brian

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Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Phred" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, "Edwin
> > Pawlowski" > wrote:
> >>
> >>"~patches~" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with rfc
> >>>and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill and
> >>>used
> >>>a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I would ask
> >>>before
> >>>just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do this?
> >>
> >>Post to one group. Copy and paste the message to post it to the other
> >>group. Takes less time than it took you to post this message.

> >
> > Absolute crap! Proper crossposting is *far* preferable to inanely
> > posting separately to individual groups. With the former, people
> > subscribed to the various groups concerned only have to deal with it
> > once; with the latter it turns up when you open each of such groups,
> > which is a proverbial PITFA!
> >
> >
> > Cheers, Phred.
> >

>
> Not so. You will see a crossposted message in each and every group it was
> crossposted to, just as if it had been posted separately to each group.
> Perhaps some newsreaders have a feature to filter out crossposted messages
> and that's what you are talking about,....


but most people will see them all.

True.
>
> Crossposting is convenient for the poster because they will see all replies
> in one group no matter where they came from (assuming the responder
> crossposted also which usually happens automatically when you hit "Reply to
> Group." Individual posting is better for the groups because replies are not
> crossposted to all the groups.
>
>


Yep.

> --
> Peter Aitken
> Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm


Nice website, BTW

Josie.

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cathyxyz wrote:
> Phred wrote:
> > In article >, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
> >
> >>"~patches~" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>>I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with rfc
> >>>and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill and used
> >>>a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I would ask before
> >>>just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do this?
> >>
> >>Post to one group. Copy and paste the message to post it to the other
> >>group. Takes less time than it took you to post this message.

> >
> >
> > Absolute crap! Proper crossposting is *far* preferable to inanely
> > posting separately to individual groups. With the former, people
> > subscribed to the various groups concerned only have to deal with it
> > once; with the latter it turns up when you open each of such groups,
> > which is a proverbial PITFA!
> >
> >
> > Cheers, Phred.
> >

> I tend to agree with Phred about *proper* crossposting.


No such thing as proper crossposting... it's ALL BAD (anti-social
behavior)... BAD as in Whacko Jacko sleeping with boys.... do you think
it's okay to sleep with boys, probably.

Sheldon

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Sheldon wrote:
>
> cathyxyz wrote:
>
>>Phred wrote:
>>
>>>In article >, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with rfc
>>>>>and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill and used
>>>>>a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I would ask before
>>>>>just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do this?
>>>>
>>>>Post to one group. Copy and paste the message to post it to the other
>>>>group. Takes less time than it took you to post this message.
>>>
>>>
>>>Absolute crap! Proper crossposting is *far* preferable to inanely
>>>posting separately to individual groups. With the former, people
>>>subscribed to the various groups concerned only have to deal with it
>>>once; with the latter it turns up when you open each of such groups,
>>>which is a proverbial PITFA!
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers, Phred.
>>>

>>
>>I tend to agree with Phred about *proper* crossposting.

>
>
> No such thing as proper crossposting... it's ALL BAD (anti-social
> behavior)...


Sheldon has spoken, all hail Sheldon...

BAD as in Whacko Jacko sleeping with boys.... do you think
> it's okay to sleep with boys, probably.
>
> Sheldon
>


Dunno. Never tried it... you tell me.

Cathy


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"Phred" > wrote in message
>
> Absolute crap! Proper crossposting is *far* preferable to inanely
> posting separately to individual groups. With the former, people
> subscribed to the various groups concerned only have to deal with it
> once; with the latter it turns up when you open each of such groups,
> which is a proverbial PITFA!


Bullshit. Most problems come from cross posting and replying to other
groups, even if they are related. Considering that this situation comes up
only a couple of times a day, who give a damn if you see it again? Many
threads evolve into off topic discussion further separating them and made
still worse by stupid cross posting.


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In article >, "Peter Aitken" > wrote:
>"Phred" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >, "Edwin
>> Pawlowski" > wrote:
>>>Post to one group. Copy and paste the message to post it to the other
>>>group. Takes less time than it took you to post this message.

>>
>> Absolute crap! Proper crossposting is *far* preferable to inanely
>> posting separately to individual groups. With the former, people
>> subscribed to the various groups concerned only have to deal with it
>> once; with the latter it turns up when you open each of such groups,
>> which is a proverbial PITFA!

>
>Not so. You will see a crossposted message in each and every group it was
>crossposted to, just as if it had been posted separately to each group.


Nonsense.

>Perhaps some newsreaders have a feature to filter out crossposted messages
>and that's what you are talking about, but most people will see them all.


What sort of friggin' broken newsreader are you using for chrissake?
Jesus! Even my 8-year-old News Xpress can get that right! They don't
"filter out" crossposted messages, they simply mark a message as Read
in *all* crossposted groups once you've seen it or "caught up" in one.

>Crossposting is convenient for the poster because they will see all replies
>in one group no matter where they came from (assuming the responder
>crossposted also which usually happens automatically when you hit "Reply to
>Group." Individual posting is better for the groups because replies are not
>crossposted to all the groups.


I have some sympathy for this point. It may be desirable to set
Followups in some cases so replies don't clutter other groups.

On the other hand, if a crossposted message is relevant to more than
one group (as in the case of the one which started this thread) it
could well be argued that people in those other groups would welcome
the chance to follow the full discussion without necessarily having to
subscribe to a group they don't normally scan.

Cheers, Phred.

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In article > ,
"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
>"Phred" > wrote in message
>>
>> Absolute crap! Proper crossposting is *far* preferable to inanely
>> posting separately to individual groups. With the former, people
>> subscribed to the various groups concerned only have to deal with it
>> once; with the latter it turns up when you open each of such groups,
>> which is a proverbial PITFA!

>
>Bullshit. Most problems come from cross posting and replying to other
>groups, even if they are related. Considering that this situation comes up
>only a couple of times a day, who give a damn if you see it again? Many
>threads evolve into off topic discussion further separating them and made
>still worse by stupid cross posting.


No one has been talking about "stupid cross posting" here. The theme
is proper crossposting versus inane multiposting. If a topic is
irrelevant to a particular group it shouldn't be posted there, period!
(Come to that, this whole discussion should probably have been in
news.groups.questions rather than r.f.c. ;-)

Cheers, Phred.

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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:47:47 GMT, Phred wrote:

> They don't
> "filter out" crossposted messages, they simply mark a message as Read
> in *all* crossposted groups once you've seen it or "caught up" in one.


I like the way Agent handles it. A popup appears to warn it's a
crossposted message. Then I can choose to read the message (or not)
and I have a choice to reply only to the group I'm reading - or to
all.
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:56:58 GMT, Phred wrote:

> (Come to that, this whole discussion should probably have been in
> news.groups.questions rather than r.f.c. ;-)


But who reads that group? Not me.
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"Sheldon" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> No such thing as proper crossposting... it's ALL BAD (anti-social
> behavior)...


Oh, the irony.
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In article >,
(Phred) wrote:
> (Come to that, this whole discussion should probably have been in
> news.groups.questions rather than r.f.c. ;-)
>
> Cheers, Phred.


Absolutely spot on, Phred. But there are too many fools who'd rather
post OT crap here because "these are my friends and I'll ask them"
rather than go to a group where they "don't know anyone" or because they
don't read that group or have never heard of it. Lazy.

OB Food: I had three nearly rotten bananas to use the other day and
made a double batch of this. In retrospect, it was too much volume for
my food processor to handle well, but I made it work. Good banana
bread, and I used yogurt in place of the sour cream.

* Exported from MasterCook Mac *

Banana Bread

Recipe By : posted to r.f.cooking by Barb Schaller 6-12-05
Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Quick Breads

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1/2 cup butter -- softened
1 cup sugar
1/4 cup sour cream
3 small or 2 large overripe (just this side of
fruit flies!) bananas
2 eggs
2 cups flour
1 tsp. baking soda
1 cup chopped nuts (optional)

In food processor bowl, process butter, sugar, sour cream, bananas, and
eggs until well mixed (maybe a minute?), stopping once or so to scrape
down mixture from side of workbowl. Dump flour, soda, and nuts, if
using, on top and pulse-process 5-8 times to incorporate into mixture.
Pour into a 9x5x3² greased loaf pan and bake till done (about 50-60
minutes) at 350 degrees, or use two smaller loaf pans, about 5x7x2-1/2²
and bake 45-55 minutes. Toothpick inserted into center of loaf should
come out clean (or almost). Cool in pan(s) 10 minutes then remove from
pan(s) and finish cooling on cooling rack.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
NOTES : Source: Adapted from a recipe in the Minneapolis Tribune, 19xx.
Won a blue ribbon at the State Fair in the mid-1980s.

_____
--
-Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 6/6/05 Sam I Am!
June 25, 1945: Me and Carly Simon. I wonder if she makes jam.
(It's not too early to shop -- good chocolate and cheap gin.
Or is it cheap chocolate and good gin? I never
remember. No jam--coal to Newcastle and all that. "-)
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In article >,
(Phred) wrote:

> In article >, "Peter
> Aitken" > wrote:


> >Perhaps some newsreaders have a feature to filter out crossposted
> >messages and that's what you are talking about, but most people
> >will see them all.

>
> What sort of friggin' broken newsreader are you using for chrissake?
> Jesus! Even my 8-year-old News Xpress can get that right! They don't
> "filter out" crossposted messages, they simply mark a message as Read
> in *all* crossposted groups once you've seen it or "caught up" in
> one.


But the message header is still seen. In NewsWatcher (for Macintosh),
it's marked read in all the groups if it was read in one of the groups
-- but it's still seen. Maybe you guys are arguing because of semantics.

> Cheers, Phred.


OB Food:

* Exported from MasterCook Mac *

Mrs. Spooner¹s Fut Nudge

Recipe By : posted to r.f.cooking by Barb Schaller 6-12-05
Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Candy

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
2 buttlespoons of tabler
2 cups shanulated grugar
2 cuppers quart of crin theam or bop of the
tottle
2 chocks of squarklate
2 Spabletoons sorn kyrup
1 nut of kelled shuts
A vittle lanilla


Shook the hugar, the chilk, the mawklate, and sorn kyrup until the
mawklate chelts.

Stoil, without birring, to 234 dehees of great. Darefully crop a letter
of the mot hickture into a watt of cold cupper. If a little foft sol
forms in the cuttom of the bopp, the drudge is fun.

Remove the han from the peat. Batter the pun.. Let canned until stool
and then flad the avoring (a vittle lanilla). Speet with a boon until
gick and thooey. Nop in the druts. Empty into the battered pun and
squark in mares; you may marsh addmallows if you have a particularly
teeth swoot.

Serves a grozen downups or two bean-age toys!
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
NOTES : Source: Judy Miller, Honeywell, in the 60¹s.
_____
--
-Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 6/6/05 Sam I Am!
June 25, 1945: Me and Carly Simon. I wonder if she makes jam.
(It's not too early to shop -- good chocolate and cheap gin.
Or is it cheap chocolate and good gin? I never
remember. No jam--coal to Newcastle and all that. "-)


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"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
>I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with rfc
>and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill and used
>a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I would ask before
>just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do this?


Am I the only one who would like to give this thoughtful person the
opportunity to share their yummie bbq recipe with us ? Or have we scared
them away with our (b)anal cross-posting commentary?
BP.


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BottyPops wrote:

> Or have we scared
> them away with our (b)anal cross-posting commentary?


Of course, if it turns out to be spam, we'll remove
the poster's appendix with a flame thrower.

That may be factored into the posting decision, or not.




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Thanks for this banana bread recipe Barb. I know someone who *always*
eats bananas at the stage of "maturity" you describe (and certifiably
organic too, judging by the assorted blemishes . I'll pass on your
recipe, it may help overcome periods of serious glut. [Thinking
further, it may have to wait for another variety to come into season.
The samples I've seen recently are small, very firm varieties which
never seem to really soften; but do keep exceptionally well compared
with the standard commercial Cavendish and Gold Finger around here.]

In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
>In article >,
>(Phred) wrote:
>> (Come to that, this whole discussion should probably have been in
>> news.groups.questions rather than r.f.c. ;-)

>
>Absolutely spot on, Phred. But there are too many fools who'd rather
>post OT crap here because "these are my friends and I'll ask them"
>rather than go to a group where they "don't know anyone" or because they
>don't read that group or have never heard of it. Lazy.
>
>OB Food: I had three nearly rotten bananas to use the other day and
>made a double batch of this. In retrospect, it was too much volume for
>my food processor to handle well, but I made it work. Good banana
>bread, and I used yogurt in place of the sour cream.
>
> * Exported from MasterCook Mac *
>
> Banana Bread
>
>Recipe By : posted to r.f.cooking by Barb Schaller 6-12-05
>Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
>Categories : Quick Breads
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
>-------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 1/2 cup butter -- softened
> 1 cup sugar
> 1/4 cup sour cream
> 3 small or 2 large overripe (just this side of
> fruit flies!) bananas
> 2 eggs
> 2 cups flour
> 1 tsp. baking soda
> 1 cup chopped nuts (optional)
>
>In food processor bowl, process butter, sugar, sour cream, bananas, and
>eggs until well mixed (maybe a minute?), stopping once or so to scrape
>down mixture from side of workbowl. Dump flour, soda, and nuts, if
>using, on top and pulse-process 5-8 times to incorporate into mixture.
>Pour into a 9x5x3² greased loaf pan and bake till done (about 50-60
>minutes) at 350 degrees, or use two smaller loaf pans, about 5x7x2-1/2²
>and bake 45-55 minutes. Toothpick inserted into center of loaf should
>come out clean (or almost). Cool in pan(s) 10 minutes then remove from
>pan(s) and finish cooling on cooling rack.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>NOTES : Source: Adapted from a recipe in the Minneapolis Tribune, 19xx.
>Won a blue ribbon at the State Fair in the mid-1980s.



Cheers, Phred.

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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:34:04 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> or because they
> don't read that group


I don't read or post in certain groups because they don't have enought
volume for me.

> or have never heard of it. Lazy.


If never heard of it is being lazy, then I am. I'm not wading through
150,000 news groups (even with the "find" function), testing to see if
they are active or have enough volume of legitimate posts for my
purposes.


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Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> But the message header is still seen. In NewsWatcher (for Macintosh),
> it's marked read in all the groups if it was read in one of the groups
> -- but it's still seen. Maybe you guys are arguing because of semantics.


Oh, what rot! You ought, first, to look up "semantics" in a good
dictionary and, second, to look up "Preferences" -> "Article Management"
in your MT-NewsWatcher. And, third, you ought to ignore the foolish,
inconsiderate, harmful life-long newbies even daring to say anything at
all about crossposting while using the wile Outhouse Excess or Google to
post their barely readable inanities. There is absolutely no doubt that
correctly- and judiciously-used crossposting is always preferable to any
kind of multi-posting. Also, look up some of the standard Usenet usage
FAQs posted to <news:news.announce.newusers>... some are even linked in
the rfc FAQ...

Oh, and, fourth, if you care even a bit about making a good impression
at that Goobernatorial Extavaganza, you ought to bring lots and lots of
Barb's Beety Beauty. No need to bring anything else.

Bubba Vic
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"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
>I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with rfc
>and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill and used
>a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I would ask before
>just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do this?
>


No, post separately. It's not that much more effort and wayyy more
courteous.

Jack IAin'tDoingDaSurnameThangUnlessIReallyFeelLikeIt


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In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> Xnews can kill any messages that are crossposted. You never see
> them. You can select how many groups a message is crossposted to
> before the message is killed.


Cool.
* Exported from MasterCook Mac *

Rhubarb Crisp

Recipe By : posted to rec.food.cooking by Barb Schaller, 6-12-05
Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Desserts

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1 1/3 cups granulated sugar
1/3 cup all purpose flour
1/2 tsp. grated orange peel
4 cups fresh rhubarb (1/2² pieces) or
1 pkg. frozen rhubarb -- (16 oz.) thawed and
well drained (about 2 cups)
1/2 cup all purpose flour
1/4 cup packed brown sugar
1/4 cup margarine or butter -- (1/2 stick)
softened

Heat oven to 400°. Mix granulated sugar, 1/3 cup flour and the orange
peel; toss with rhubarb until well coated. Arrange rhubarb mixture in
greased square pan, 8x8x2². Sprinkle any remaining sugar mixture evenly
over top.

Mix 1/2 cup flour, the brown sugar and margarine with fork until
crumbly. Sprinkle evenly over rhubarb mixture. Bake until topping is
golden brown and rhubarb is tender, 35-40 minutes. Serve warm with ice
cream or whipped cream, if desired. Makes 9 servings.

Nutrition information per serving: 230 calories, 1 g protein, 45 g
carbohydrate, 5 g fat, 0 g cholesterol, 65 mg sodium.

NOTES : Source: Betty Crocker¹s Casual Country Cooking, Prentice Hall,
copyright 1993, page 112.
_____
--
-Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 6/6/05 Sam I Am!
June 25, 1945: Me and Carly Simon. I wonder if she makes jam.
(It's not too early to shop -- good chocolate and cheap gin.
Or is it cheap chocolate and good gin? I never
remember. No jam--coal to Newcastle and all that. "-)
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On Sun 12 Jun 2005 03:53:09p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>> Xnews can kill any messages that are crossposted. You never see
>> them. You can select how many groups a message is crossposted to
>> before the message is killed.

>
> Cool.
> * Exported from MasterCook Mac *
>
> Rhubarb Crisp
>
> Recipe By : posted to rec.food.cooking by Barb Schaller, 6-12-05
> Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories : Desserts
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 1 1/3 cups granulated sugar
> 1/3 cup all purpose flour
> 1/2 tsp. grated orange peel
> 4 cups fresh rhubarb (1/2² pieces) or
> 1 pkg. frozen rhubarb -- (16 oz.) thawed and
> well drained (about 2 cups)
> 1/2 cup all purpose flour
> 1/4 cup packed brown sugar
> 1/4 cup margarine or butter -- (1/2 stick)
> softened
>
> Heat oven to 400°. Mix granulated sugar, 1/3 cup flour and the orange
> peel; toss with rhubarb until well coated. Arrange rhubarb mixture in
> greased square pan, 8x8x2². Sprinkle any remaining sugar mixture evenly
> over top.
>
> Mix 1/2 cup flour, the brown sugar and margarine with fork until
> crumbly. Sprinkle evenly over rhubarb mixture. Bake until topping is
> golden brown and rhubarb is tender, 35-40 minutes. Serve warm with ice
> cream or whipped cream, if desired. Makes 9 servings.
>
> Nutrition information per serving: 230 calories, 1 g protein, 45 g
> carbohydrate, 5 g fat, 0 g cholesterol, 65 mg sodium.
>
> NOTES : Source: Betty Crocker¹s Casual Country Cooking, Prentice Hall,
> copyright 1993, page 112.
> _____


Sounds really good, and very quick and easy. I have some rhubarb in the
freezer, so I'm making that for dinner tonight.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974
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Wayne Boatwright wrote on 12 Jun 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> On Sun 12 Jun 2005 03:53:09p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in
> rec.food.cooking:
>
> > In article >, Wayne
> > Boatwright > wrote:
> >
> >> Xnews can kill any messages that are crossposted. You never
> >> see them. You can select how many groups a message is
> >> crossposted to before the message is killed.

> >
> > Cool.
> > * Exported from MasterCook Mac *
> >
> > Rhubarb Crisp
> >
> > Recipe By : posted to rec.food.cooking by Barb Schaller,
> > 6-12-05 Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
> > Categories : Desserts
> >
> > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> > -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> > 1 1/3 cups granulated sugar
> > 1/3 cup all purpose flour
> > 1/2 tsp. grated orange peel
> > 4 cups fresh rhubarb (1/2² pieces) or
> > 1 pkg. frozen rhubarb -- (16 oz.) thawed and
> > well drained (about 2 cups)
> > 1/2 cup all purpose flour
> > 1/4 cup packed brown sugar
> > 1/4 cup margarine or butter -- (1/2 stick)
> > softened
> >
> > Heat oven to 400°. Mix granulated sugar, 1/3 cup flour and the
> > orange peel; toss with rhubarb until well coated. Arrange
> > rhubarb mixture in greased square pan, 8x8x2². Sprinkle any
> > remaining sugar mixture evenly over top.
> >
> > Mix 1/2 cup flour, the brown sugar and margarine with fork until
> > crumbly. Sprinkle evenly over rhubarb mixture. Bake until
> > topping is golden brown and rhubarb is tender, 35-40 minutes.
> > Serve warm with ice cream or whipped cream, if desired. Makes 9
> > servings.
> >
> > Nutrition information per serving: 230 calories, 1 g protein,
> > 45 g carbohydrate, 5 g fat, 0 g cholesterol, 65 mg sodium.
> >
> > NOTES : Source: Betty Crocker¹s Casual Country Cooking,
> > Prentice Hall, copyright 1993, page 112.
> > _____

>
> Sounds really good, and very quick and easy. I have some rhubarb
> in the freezer, so I'm making that for dinner tonight.
>



* Exported from MasterCook *

Country Apple Rhubarb Pie

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Fruit Pies/Tarts

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
CRUST
1 9 inch classic crisco® double crust -- see recipe
FILLING
9 cups sliced peeled granny smith apples -- about 3
pounds
1 1/2 cups chopped fresh rhubarb -- about 1/2-inch pieces
3/4 cup granulated sugar
1/2 cup firmly packed light brown sugar
2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
1 tablespoon cornstarch
1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/4 teaspoon freshly grated nutmeg
GLAZE
1 egg -- beaten
1 tablespoon water
1 tablespoon granulated sugar
1 teaspoon ground pecans or walnuts
1/8 teaspoon ground cinnamon

For crust, prepare as directed. Roll and press bottom crust into 9- or
9 1/2-inch deep-dish pie plate. Do not bake. Heat oven to 425° F

For filling, combine apples and rhubarb in large bowl. Combine 3/4 cup
granulated sugar, brown sugar, flour, cornstarch, 1 teaspoon cinnamon
and nutmeg in medium bowl. Sprinkle over fruit. Toss to coat. Spoon
into unbaked pie crust. Moisten pastry edge with water. Cover pie
with lattice top, cutting strips 1 inch wide. Flute edge high.

For glaze, combine egg and water in small bowl. Brush over crust.
Combine remaining glaze ingredients in separate small bowl. Sprinkle
over crust.

Bake at 425°F for 20 minutes. Reduce oven temperature to 350°F Bake 30
to 40 minutes or until filling in center is bubbly and crust is golden
brown. Place sheet of foil or baking sheet under pie if it starts to
bubble over. Cool to room temperature.

Makes 1 (9- or 9 1/2-inch) deep-dish pie



Source:
"Grandma's Baking Secrets, Fav. Brand Names#24"
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-

Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 151 Calories; 1g Fat (3.8%
calories from fat); 1g Protein; 36g Carbohydrate; trace Dietary Fiber;
27mg Cholesterol; 15mg Sodium. Exchanges: 0 Grain(Starch); 0 Lean
Meat; 0 Fat; 2 1/2 Other Carbohydrates.


Nutr. Assoc. : 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



--
It's not a question of where he grips it!
It's a simple question of weight ratios!

A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?


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Melba's Jammin' wrote on 12 Jun 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> In article >, Wayne
> Boatwright > wrote:
>
> > Xnews can kill any messages that are crossposted. You never see
> > them. You can select how many groups a message is crossposted
> > to before the message is killed.

>
> Cool.
> * Exported from MasterCook Mac *
>
> Rhubarb Crisp
>
> Recipe By : posted to rec.food.cooking by Barb Schaller,
> 6-12-05 Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories : Desserts
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 1 1/3 cups granulated sugar
> 1/3 cup all purpose flour
> 1/2 tsp. grated orange peel
> 4 cups fresh rhubarb (1/2² pieces) or
> 1 pkg. frozen rhubarb -- (16 oz.) thawed and
> well drained (about 2 cups)
> 1/2 cup all purpose flour
> 1/4 cup packed brown sugar
> 1/4 cup margarine or butter -- (1/2 stick)
> softened
>
> Heat oven to 400°. Mix granulated sugar, 1/3 cup flour and the
> orange peel; toss with rhubarb until well coated. Arrange rhubarb
> mixture in greased square pan, 8x8x2². Sprinkle any remaining
> sugar mixture evenly over top.
>
> Mix 1/2 cup flour, the brown sugar and margarine with fork until
> crumbly. Sprinkle evenly over rhubarb mixture. Bake until
> topping is golden brown and rhubarb is tender, 35-40 minutes.
> Serve warm with ice cream or whipped cream, if desired. Makes 9
> servings.
>
> Nutrition information per serving: 230 calories, 1 g protein, 45
> g carbohydrate, 5 g fat, 0 g cholesterol, 65 mg sodium.
>
> NOTES : Source: Betty Crocker¹s Casual Country Cooking, Prentice
> Hall, copyright 1993, page 112.
> _____



* Exported from MasterCook *

Rhubarb Loaves

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories :

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3 Eggs
1 1/2 cups vegetable oil
2 cups chopped rhubarb
1 1/2 cups sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla
2 tablespoons grated lemon peel
3 1/3 cups all-purpose flour
2 teaspoons baking soda
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1 teaspoon cloves
2/3 cup chopped nuts

Heat oven to 250 degrees.

Grease and flour 2 loaf pans, 9x5x3 inches.

Beat eggs, oil, rhubarb, sugar, vanilla and lemon peel on low speed,
scrapping bowl occasionally, 1 minute.

Add flour, baking soda, baking powder, salt, cinnamon and cloves.
Beat on low speed, scraping bowl occasionally, until moistened, about
15 seconds. Beat on medium speed 45 seconds.

Stir in nuts.

Spread in pans.

Bake until wooden pick inserted in center comes out clean, 55 to 60
minutes.

Cool 10 minutes; remove from pans.

Cool completely before slicing.

Refrigerate leftover bread.

Possum Kingdom Lake Cookbook

MC Formatted using MC Buster 2.0d & SNT on 4/10/98






- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
-

Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 6410 Calories; 400g Fat (55.4%
calories from fat); 78g Protein; 646g Carbohydrate; 24g Dietary Fiber;
636mg Cholesterol; 5375mg Sodium. Exchanges: 22 1/2 Grain(Starch); 4
Lean Meat; 0 Fruit; 76 Fat; 20 Other Carbohydrates.


Nutr. Assoc. : 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



--
It's not a question of where he grips it!
It's a simple question of weight ratios!

A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
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On Sun 12 Jun 2005 07:18:50p, Monsur Fromage du Pollet wrote in
rec.food.cooking:


> * Exported from MasterCook *
>
> Country Apple Rhubarb Pie
>
> Recipe By :
> Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories : Fruit Pies/Tarts
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> CRUST
> 1 9 inch classic crisco® double crust -- see recipe
> FILLING
> 9 cups sliced peeled granny smith apples -- about 3
> pounds
> 1 1/2 cups chopped fresh rhubarb -- about 1/2-inch pieces
> 3/4 cup granulated sugar
> 1/2 cup firmly packed light brown sugar
> 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
> 1 tablespoon cornstarch
> 1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
> 1/4 teaspoon freshly grated nutmeg
> GLAZE
> 1 egg -- beaten
> 1 tablespoon water
> 1 tablespoon granulated sugar
> 1 teaspoon ground pecans or walnuts
> 1/8 teaspoon ground cinnamon
>
> For crust, prepare as directed. Roll and press bottom crust into 9- or
> 9 1/2-inch deep-dish pie plate. Do not bake. Heat oven to 425° F
>
> For filling, combine apples and rhubarb in large bowl. Combine 3/4 cup
> granulated sugar, brown sugar, flour, cornstarch, 1 teaspoon cinnamon
> and nutmeg in medium bowl. Sprinkle over fruit. Toss to coat. Spoon
> into unbaked pie crust. Moisten pastry edge with water. Cover pie
> with lattice top, cutting strips 1 inch wide. Flute edge high.
>
> For glaze, combine egg and water in small bowl. Brush over crust.
> Combine remaining glaze ingredients in separate small bowl. Sprinkle
> over crust.
>
> Bake at 425°F for 20 minutes. Reduce oven temperature to 350°F Bake 30
> to 40 minutes or until filling in center is bubbly and crust is golden
> brown. Place sheet of foil or baking sheet under pie if it starts to
> bubble over. Cool to room temperature.
>
> Makes 1 (9- or 9 1/2-inch) deep-dish pie
>
>
>
> Source:
> "Grandma's Baking Secrets, Fav. Brand Names#24"


Sounds delicious! Saved for near future baking.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974
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On Sun 12 Jun 2005 07:23:54p, Monsur Fromage du Pollet wrote in
rec.food.cooking:


> * Exported from MasterCook *
>
> Rhubarb Loaves
>
> Recipe By :
> Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories :
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 3 Eggs
> 1 1/2 cups vegetable oil
> 2 cups chopped rhubarb
> 1 1/2 cups sugar
> 1 teaspoon vanilla
> 2 tablespoons grated lemon peel
> 3 1/3 cups all-purpose flour
> 2 teaspoons baking soda
> 1 teaspoon baking powder
> 1 teaspoon salt
> 1 teaspoon cinnamon
> 1 teaspoon cloves
> 2/3 cup chopped nuts
>
> Heat oven to 250 degrees.
>
> Grease and flour 2 loaf pans, 9x5x3 inches.
>
> Beat eggs, oil, rhubarb, sugar, vanilla and lemon peel on low speed,
> scrapping bowl occasionally, 1 minute.
>
> Add flour, baking soda, baking powder, salt, cinnamon and cloves.
> Beat on low speed, scraping bowl occasionally, until moistened, about
> 15 seconds. Beat on medium speed 45 seconds.
>
> Stir in nuts.
>
> Spread in pans.
>
> Bake until wooden pick inserted in center comes out clean, 55 to 60
> minutes.
>
> Cool 10 minutes; remove from pans.
>
> Cool completely before slicing.
>
> Refrigerate leftover bread.
>
> Possum Kingdom Lake Cookbook
>
> MC Formatted using MC Buster 2.0d & SNT on 4/10/98

Likewise with this one! Thanks.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974
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> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
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>>In article >, ~patches~
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I made a totally awesome meal tonight and would like to share it with
>>>rfc and alt.food.barbecue. It was mainly cooked on our outdoor grill
>>>and used a smoking method so fits in with both groups. I thought I
>>>would ask before just posting willy nilly. Does anyone mind if it do
>>>this?

>>
>>i don't know protocol but I'd rather see two separate posts (one in each
>>group) rather than one posted marked for two groups. That way the
>>follow-ups stay with the group in which they were posted.

>
>
> That's the wrong way to do it. "Multi-posting" is usually frowned upon
> as a violation of netiquette. A properly configured newsreader will
> only show the messages once when they are cross-posted.
>
> If the message is applicable to both groups, then cross-posting is
> appropriate, but should be used with EXTREME discretion.
>
>
>
> Brian
>


But "frowning upon" others is some people's entire joy in life. You
wouldn't wanna deprive them of their only source of happiness?

Best regards,
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