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Everyone,
Since fruit season is upon us, I recently bought a sorbet/ice cream maker. It's one of the small kind, I think 1.5 quarts max, with the tub that you put in the freezer for 24 hours prior to use; so no ice or salt is needed. I'm sure someday I'll try it for ice cream, but I really bought it to make sorbet. The strawberry farmer down the hill opened his stand a few weeks ago, so I'm off and trying to make sorbet. The first batch came out tasting great, soft-serve from the machine, but when I put it in the freezer, it became a solid block. I just did the second batch and added a couple ounces of 80 proof vodka to act as antifreeze in a small batch of sorbet (two cups of sliced, fresh strawberries). That did soften it up moderately. But I don't usually drink, and if I add more vodka, I'll be close to a shot of vodka per serving of sorbet. Not the desired effect. So does anybody out there have any ideas on how to make the sorbet stay more of a soft serve consistency? What do they do in the commercial factories to make the sorbet scoopable? I know the commercial sorbet can't be loaded with vodka or rum, so what's their secret? If the solution is to make the sorbet, put it in the freezer, and break it up with a fork before it's completely solid, there's no point in using the sorbet maker. I could just go from the blender to the freezer, then get out the fork. So is the sorbet maker a great waste of time, effort, and money? Just do it the old-fashioned way? Any help is greatly appreciated, or TIA, Ken |
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"Ken" > wrote: > Everyone, > > Since fruit season is upon us, I recently bought a sorbet/ice cream > maker. It's one of the small kind, I think 1.5 quarts max, with the > tub that you put in the freezer for 24 hours prior to use; so no ice or > salt is needed. I'm sure someday I'll try it for ice cream, but I > really bought it to make sorbet. > > The strawberry farmer down the hill opened his stand a few weeks ago, > so I'm off and trying to make sorbet. The first batch came out tasting > great, soft-serve from the machine, but when I put it in the freezer, > it became a solid block. > > I just did the second batch and added a couple ounces of 80 proof vodka > to act as antifreeze in a small batch of sorbet (two cups of sliced, > fresh strawberries). That did soften it up moderately. But I don't > usually drink, and if I add more vodka, I'll be close to a shot of > vodka per serving of sorbet. Not the desired effect. > > So does anybody out there have any ideas on how to make the sorbet stay > more of a soft serve consistency? What do they do in the commercial > factories to make the sorbet scoopable? I know the commercial sorbet > can't be loaded with vodka or rum, so what's their secret? > > If the solution is to make the sorbet, put it in the freezer, and break > it up with a fork before it's completely solid, there's no point in > using the sorbet maker. I could just go from the blender to the > freezer, then get out the fork. So is the sorbet maker a great waste > of time, effort, and money? Just do it the old-fashioned way? > > Any help is greatly appreciated, or TIA, > > Ken I use corn syrup for a portion of the sweetner and that also helps keep it from becoming rock hard or icy...no buzz like the vodka though. marcella |
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Marcella,
That was a speedy reply, thanks. I'll try the corn syrup next time. Is the replacement for granulated sugar 1:1? Next time I'll try a 50/50 mix of granulated sugar and corn syrup and then adjust accordingly. Ken |
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On Mon 18 Apr 2005 07:47:00p, Ken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> Everyone, > > Since fruit season is upon us, I recently bought a sorbet/ice cream > maker. It's one of the small kind, I think 1.5 quarts max, with the > tub that you put in the freezer for 24 hours prior to use; so no ice or > salt is needed. I'm sure someday I'll try it for ice cream, but I > really bought it to make sorbet. > > The strawberry farmer down the hill opened his stand a few weeks ago, > so I'm off and trying to make sorbet. The first batch came out tasting > great, soft-serve from the machine, but when I put it in the freezer, > it became a solid block. > > I just did the second batch and added a couple ounces of 80 proof vodka > to act as antifreeze in a small batch of sorbet (two cups of sliced, > fresh strawberries). That did soften it up moderately. But I don't > usually drink, and if I add more vodka, I'll be close to a shot of > vodka per serving of sorbet. Not the desired effect. > > So does anybody out there have any ideas on how to make the sorbet stay > more of a soft serve consistency? What do they do in the commercial > factories to make the sorbet scoopable? I know the commercial sorbet > can't be loaded with vodka or rum, so what's their secret? > > If the solution is to make the sorbet, put it in the freezer, and break > it up with a fork before it's completely solid, there's no point in > using the sorbet maker. I could just go from the blender to the > freezer, then get out the fork. So is the sorbet maker a great waste > of time, effort, and money? Just do it the old-fashioned way? > > Any help is greatly appreciated, or TIA, > > Ken You didn't list your recipe, and ingredients can play a role on frozen consistency. If I put a carton of commercially made sorbet in my freezer, it too would freeze hard as a rock. It needs to be removed 10-15 minutes before serving. When I make sorbet, I use clear honey or white corn syrup as part of the sweetening agent. I also add a teaspoon of unflavored gelatin dissolved in a warmed portion of liquid. I also often add a slightly beaten egg white. All these things help to govern texture. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
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Wayne,
Thanks for the reply. I'll start with corn syrup and see how well that improves things. If that's not enough of a change, I'll keep going from there with gelatin and egg whites. Thanks, Ken |
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Ken wrote:
> Everyone, > > Since fruit season is upon us, I recently bought a sorbet/ice cream > maker. It's one of the small kind, I think 1.5 quarts max, with the > tub that you put in the freezer for 24 hours prior to use; so no ice or > salt is needed. I'm sure someday I'll try it for ice cream, but I > really bought it to make sorbet. > > The strawberry farmer down the hill opened his stand a few weeks ago, > so I'm off and trying to make sorbet. The first batch came out tasting > great, soft-serve from the machine, but when I put it in the freezer, > it became a solid block. > > I just did the second batch and added a couple ounces of 80 proof vodka > to act as antifreeze in a small batch of sorbet (two cups of sliced, > fresh strawberries). That did soften it up moderately. But I don't > usually drink, and if I add more vodka, I'll be close to a shot of > vodka per serving of sorbet. Not the desired effect. > > So does anybody out there have any ideas on how to make the sorbet stay > more of a soft serve consistency? What do they do in the commercial > factories to make the sorbet scoopable? I know the commercial sorbet > can't be loaded with vodka or rum, so what's their secret? > > If the solution is to make the sorbet, put it in the freezer, and break > it up with a fork before it's completely solid, there's no point in > using the sorbet maker. I could just go from the blender to the > freezer, then get out the fork. So is the sorbet maker a great waste > of time, effort, and money? Just do it the old-fashioned way? > > Any help is greatly appreciated, or TIA, > > Ken I would expect an ice-creamery to be about 0-2 Celcius, enough to keep it 'soft serve'. Refrigerator would be -5 to -10 Celcius. Just take it out of the freezer before serving. gtoomey |
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![]() "Ken" > wrote in message oups.com... > Everyone, > > Since fruit season is upon us, I recently bought a sorbet/ice cream > maker. It's one of the small kind, I think 1.5 quarts max, with the > tub that you put in the freezer for 24 hours prior to use; so no ice or > salt is needed. I'm sure someday I'll try it for ice cream, but I > really bought it to make sorbet. > > The strawberry farmer down the hill opened his stand a few weeks ago, > so I'm off and trying to make sorbet. The first batch came out tasting > great, soft-serve from the machine, but when I put it in the freezer, > it became a solid block. > > I just did the second batch and added a couple ounces of 80 proof vodka > to act as antifreeze in a small batch of sorbet (two cups of sliced, > fresh strawberries). That did soften it up moderately. But I don't > usually drink, and if I add more vodka, I'll be close to a shot of > vodka per serving of sorbet. Not the desired effect. > > So does anybody out there have any ideas on how to make the sorbet stay > more of a soft serve consistency? What do they do in the commercial > factories to make the sorbet scoopable? I know the commercial sorbet > can't be loaded with vodka or rum, so what's their secret? > > If the solution is to make the sorbet, put it in the freezer, and break > it up with a fork before it's completely solid, there's no point in > using the sorbet maker. I could just go from the blender to the > freezer, then get out the fork. So is the sorbet maker a great waste > of time, effort, and money? Just do it the old-fashioned way? > > Any help is greatly appreciated, or TIA, > > Ken Ken, Adding a bit of corn syrup will help...not too much though, since it sweetens differently from sugar and will affect the flavor if you use it alone or for most of the sweetener. Also, you can take it out of the freezer 10-15 minutes prior to serving. kimberly > |
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