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jmcquown 06-04-2005 05:18 PM

Nancy Young wrote:
> "Bob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Jill wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have children or grandchildren and frankly prefer to drink
>>> coffee black. Milk, very cold skimmed - to drink whole milk
>>> tastes, well, FAT.

>
>> I *can't* drink coffee without milk; it tears up my digestive system
>> too badly. And just yesterday, I was lamenting the fact that half &
>> half tastes
>> so good on cereal (hot or cold), but is so detrimental to my health.

>
> Ugh, I cannot stand anything less than half and half in my coffee.
> Okay, I no longer drink coffee, but that's not the point. There is
> always light cream
> in my refrigerator for coffee.
>
> Jill, is it skimmed milk where you live? Here it's skim milk. I'm
> ignoring the shuddering from the idea of putting it in coffee, but
> I'll get over it.
>
> nancy


I honestly have no idea what the label says. It's skim or skimmed - dunno?
I can and sometimes drink coffee with cream or sweetener or both, depends on
my mood. Normally I drink it black. I haven't had a cup of coffee since
John and I went to breakfast last October. I always put cream or half &
half in my hot tea. I don't drink iced tea (shudder); something about it
bothers me.

Jill

Jill



Dave Smith 06-04-2005 06:43 PM

jmcquown wrote:

> > Having a grandson, we have full fat milk in the house all the time. I
> > can use it in my coffee when I don't have half & half and I don't get
> > upset.
> >
> > sf
> > <very picky in some areas>
> >

> I don't have children or grandchildren and frankly prefer to drink coffee
> black. Milk, very cold skimmed - to drink whole milk tastes, well, FAT.
> But to each their own :) I do cook with cream but don't ask me to drink it!
> I suppose this is why I drink wine ;)


I never liked milk and realized after many years of despising the stuff that I
suffer from what is now called lactose intolerance. If I consume kefir or
yoghurt a few times a week, I can handle small amounts of whole milk on cereal
or porridge. I just can't imagine drinking milk.

I usually start my day with a latte. Maybe it's cappuccino. Maybe it depends on
the day of the week which it is, but I pour some milk in a mug and steam it.
Then I make an espresso and dump it into the steamed milk and just a little bit
of raw sugar. All other coffee is taken black.

My wife loves cream in her coffee. She prefers table cream but will take half
and half. She would rather have it black than with milk.



Damsel in dis Dress 06-04-2005 09:13 PM

Katra and Jill,

Can you ladies start trimming your posts? They're getting ridiculously
long.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion of sour cream.

Carol
--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

Damsel in dis Dress 06-04-2005 09:18 PM

"Bob" >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>I *can't* drink coffee without milk; it tears up my digestive system too
>badly. And just yesterday, I was lamenting the fact that half & half tastes
>so good on cereal (hot or cold), but is so detrimental to my health. For
>that matter, it's the cream that makes Thai iced tea so very, very good.


I use heavy cream in my coffee, on the rare occasions when I drink it.

It's also good on sugar-free Jell-O and cooked sugar-free pudding. The
gelatin isn't really too edible when you eat it plain.

Cream is also very good on sliced bananas. The bananas are pretty carby,
so I don't do this very often. But strawberry season is coming upon us.

Carol, trying to be a good little diabetic
--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

jmcquown 06-04-2005 09:51 PM

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> Katra and Jill,
>
> Can you ladies start trimming your posts? They're getting
> ridiculously long.
>
> We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion of sour
> cream.
>
> Carol


I've been been trimming them while still allowing attributions for those who
replied and relevant text.

Jill



Wayne Boatwright 06-04-2005 11:15 PM

On Wed 06 Apr 2005 03:04:46p, Dog3 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
> :
>
>> "Bob" >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>>
>>>I *can't* drink coffee without milk; it tears up my digestive system
>>>too badly. And just yesterday, I was lamenting the fact that half &
>>>half tastes so good on cereal (hot or cold), but is so detrimental to
>>>my health. For that matter, it's the cream that makes Thai iced tea
>>>so very, very good.

>>
>> I use heavy cream in my coffee, on the rare occasions when I drink it.
>>
>>
>> It's also good on sugar-free Jell-O and cooked sugar-free pudding.
>> The gelatin isn't really too edible when you eat it plain.

>
> I just made a batch of strawberry and added a banana to it. It wasn't too
> bad. Gawd only knows what I'm gonna do with the lime.


Pears

>> Cream is also very good on sliced bananas. The bananas are pretty
>> carby, so I don't do this very often. But strawberry season is coming
>> upon us.
>>
>> Carol, trying to be a good little diabetic

>
> I'm trying hard also. I eat too many bananas though. At least 2 a day. I
> also have an apple and an orange,tangerine or tangelo. I don't care much
> for melon but I'm going to buy one tomorrow.
>
> Michael
>
>
>




--
Wayne Boatwright
____________________________________________

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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Rona Y. 06-04-2005 11:43 PM

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> Have you tried any of the newer fat-free half and half products like
> Land o' Lakes? I started by using it in coffee, but have since found
> it acceptable in cereal and as an addition to mashed potatoes. I
> can't stand milk in coffee.


Wouldn't fat-free half and half just be skim milk? Or does it have a lot of
additives to make it thicker like half and half? Just wondering...

rona

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Wayne Boatwright 07-04-2005 12:06 AM

On Wed 06 Apr 2005 03:43:02p, Rona Y. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> Have you tried any of the newer fat-free half and half products like
>> Land o' Lakes? I started by using it in coffee, but have since found
>> it acceptable in cereal and as an addition to mashed potatoes. I
>> can't stand milk in coffee.

>
> Wouldn't fat-free half and half just be skim milk? Or does it have a
> lot of additives to make it thicker like half and half? Just
> wondering...
>
> rona
>


Rona, I don't have a bottle handy just now, but maybe this will help.

"The Center for Science in the Public Interest says Land O' Lakes Fat Free
Half & Half "looks and tastes like half-and-half, but it's made mostly of
skim milk (and a little carrageenin for body) instead of half cream and
half whole milk." This means you now can make full-bodied, tasty cream
sauces free of the fatty calories usually called for in such recipes."

I've never seen or tasted anything like it that so closely resembles the
real thing.

--
Wayne Boatwright
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Jude 07-04-2005 01:11 AM

I;ve tried the fat free half and half. I like it for sauces, but for
coffee it doesn't add the richness that the real stuff does. In coffee
it tastes just like I put skim milk in.


Wayne Boatwright 07-04-2005 01:35 AM

On Wed 06 Apr 2005 05:11:30p, Jude wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> I;ve tried the fat free half and half. I like it for sauces, but for
> coffee it doesn't add the richness that the real stuff does. In coffee
> it tastes just like I put skim milk in.


Sorry, but I can't agree at all. Perhaps it depends on the brand. I
originally was buying Land o' Lakes which I thought was pretty good, but more
recently have been buying a local brand, Lucerne, which is incredibly good.

--
Wayne Boatwright
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

sf 07-04-2005 06:56 AM

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 02:26:38 -0500, Katra
> wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:06 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I want something a little less thick than sour cream and I'm not sure what
> > > that would do to the taste. Sour cream is not one of my favourite things.
> > > If I were going that route I'd probably use plain yoghurt, except I don't
> > > have any :) Oh, and I'll use walnuts rather than pine nuts.

> >
> > I don't think sour cream OR yogurt would add to that mixture. They
> > would just mask the taste of fresh basil.
> >

>
> Ok, howabout cream cheese? <lol>


BLECH... cream cheese is best on a bagel or in a cheesecake.

:)
Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

sf 07-04-2005 07:02 AM

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 03:33:18 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:07:58 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I thought I had cream or light cream in the fridge or freezer.
> >> Guess what? I had neither. Not even half & half. So down to the
> >> small store I went - they are out of cream, too! And the dairy guy
> >> doesn't arrive until Friday. So, I'm giving your idea a try. I
> >> bought an 8 oz. container of sour cream :)

> >
> > Having a grandson, we have full fat milk in the house all the time. I
> > can use it in my coffee when I don't have half & half and I don't get
> > upset.
> >
> > sf
> > <very picky in some areas>
> >

> I don't have children or grandchildren and frankly prefer to drink coffee
> black. Milk, very cold skimmed - to drink whole milk tastes, well, FAT.
> But to each their own :) I do cook with cream but don't ask me to drink it!
> I suppose this is why I drink wine ;)
>
> Jill
>

Oh, my goodness Jill! I'm not telling you to drink whole milk
straight, I'm saying (for me) it's a decent substitute for cream. Why
would you bother putting anything in your coffee if you didn't want to
taste it? I'd rather drink coffee black than drink it with low fat or
(god forbid) skimmed milk.

Why wouldn't I use low fat/skimmed milk? Low fat/skimmed milk turns
coffee gray which is a visual turn off for me. Secondly - they add no
flavor, so they only cool the coffee.
Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

Katra 07-04-2005 09:09 AM

In article >,
Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> Katra and Jill,
>
> Can you ladies start trimming your posts? They're getting ridiculously
> long.
>
> We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion of sour cream.
>
> Carol


Oops! ;-)
Sorry! I do try to remember to do that!!!!!!
--
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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather
to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand and chocolate covered
strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out,
and screaming WOO HOO- What a ride."

Katra 07-04-2005 09:12 AM

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 02:26:38 -0500, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > sf > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:05:06 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I want something a little less thick than sour cream and I'm not sure
> > > > what
> > > > that would do to the taste. Sour cream is not one of my favourite
> > > > things.
> > > > If I were going that route I'd probably use plain yoghurt, except I
> > > > don't
> > > > have any :) Oh, and I'll use walnuts rather than pine nuts.
> > >
> > > I don't think sour cream OR yogurt would add to that mixture. They
> > > would just mask the taste of fresh basil.
> > >

> >
> > Ok, howabout cream cheese? <lol>

>
> BLECH... cream cheese is best on a bagel or in a cheesecake.
>
> :)
> Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.


Or on crackers with a dab of caviar...... ;-d
--
K.

Default User 07-04-2005 05:26 PM


Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> "The Center for Science in the Public Interest says Land O' Lakes Fat

Free
> Half & Half "looks and tastes like half-and-half, but it's made

mostly of
> skim milk (and a little carrageenin for body) instead of half cream

and
> half whole milk." This means you now can make full-bodied, tasty

cream
> sauces free of the fatty calories usually called for in such

recipes."
>
> I've never seen or tasted anything like it that so closely resembles

the
> real thing.



Sounds interesting, I might just have to give it a try. I don't drink
coffee, but it might be better for soups or sauces.



Brian



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